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I got some EBC organics for my front. They aren't that great to be honest - not awful or anything, but coming off the stock fronts I was hoping I'd at least see an improvement. Anyway, filtering in the city is really demanding of both the engine and the brakes, not to mention performance in adverse weather, and, well, I think I'll be getting sintered next time.

As for this rear brake stuff - the rear brake is there so that your rear wheel slows down at the same time as your front wheel. If you don't use it, you're destabilising the bike, especially if you don't engine brake. I have to say, I've locked up the rear wheel a few times, and never have I felt that that was something to make me afraid of using it. All that happens is the back wheel slides out.
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Ok... I will give my perspective as well.

My GS came with organic pads ... the first weekend that I went for a little fun... the brake faded.. Feels like that there is oil on your front rotor... very scary!

HOWEVER, if you don't ride hard... is not a big deal ...you will be fine with organic.

I maintained the organic on the rear brake as many of you have done!.. works great!

I just use rear brake when riding within the city for maneuvers, hills... parking, etc...

I try to avoid rear braking when a hard brake is needed... IS VERY difficult to modulate front and rear braking separately at the same time! our brain does not like it! Usually locking the rear way earlier than the front... not stopping as the bike could and taking us down!  Our foot is not accurate to apply pressure in a panic situation!
So... I prefer to stay ONLY on the front brake... knowing what I am doing and reacting properly if the bike starts to lock the front.

I don't Furling care if the pads will eat my rotors..  they are not meant to last forever... :nono:

In reality, you do not have a choice:
 if you ride hard (brake hard as well)   HH is imperative...

If you go for a pleasantly smooth ride.. organic will do for sure!

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Rear brake is just for controlling your very slow speed noodling or in conjunction with riding the clutch in those slow manoeuvres where you need to do that or for balancing the front brake. But the problem is that if a sudden incident happens, you're very likely to get the front brake correct but end up fishtailing the rear.

Not if you practice braking.

If you omit the rear brake when stopping you're handicapping yourself.  The front may take on the majority of the work but that doesn't mean the rear counts for nothing, and applying the rear brake does more than simply engine-braking.
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For Sale / For Trade / Wanted / Hot Deals / For Sale: 96 GS500E in Bay Area CA
« Last post by mysho22 on October 15, 2018, 10:47:50 PM »
It's time. After two years with my lovely GS500E, Goose, I've moved on to an FZ6R that will be better suited to the highways my new school commute will expose me to.

Craigslist ad: https://post.craigslist.org/k/5ELF68vQ6BG-LqH0PM-5yw/ufL1Q?s=preview&lang=en&cc=us

I'm selling my 96 Suzuki GS500E. I purchased the bike 9/11/2016 with about 3000 miles on it, and have put 6500 on it since. I think I am the 3rd owner. Custom paint, as well as several upgrades to the front brakes and suspension done by JPH Suspension. A great learner bike! Easy to ride and easy to wrench on. Carbs rebuilt in Jan/Feb, oil change in Feb, new air filter and petcock and spark plugs in Jan, fuel lines changed in March, brake fluid changed in May, and new battery sometime in 2017 (I don't remember exactly when).

Upgrades:
Custom galaxy paint (both fairings, front fender, gas tank)
Steel braided brake line
Fork emulators
R6 adjustable rear shock
Master cylinder

Comes with:
Original fairings (black)
Gas tank cover

Damage:
Broken right mirror
Running lean -- fuel-air mixture needs attention
Small tear in the seat (see pics)

Text me at 831-264-7500 with questions or to come to look at the bike.

Asking $1400, but willing to negotiate.

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General GS500 Discussion / Re: Strange and scary clanking sound
« Last post by mihkels on October 15, 2018, 08:46:01 PM »
Check the chain again - I had a similar problem after replacing the stock shock. The chain was rubbing against the underside of the front sprocket cover around here:



I only found out because the chain had some deep scratches on the links.
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: Glowing Muffler Headers Okay
« Last post by Ilikemotorcycles on October 15, 2018, 04:13:51 PM »
I replaced the plugs and it ran much better until it got hot. The inside of the muffler still got orange red hot but took longer. I think one of the plugs were bad so it was running one cylinder and burning all that fuel from one side in the muffler.
Since it ran really well and on both cylinders until it got hot I think a coil might be bad and weaken as it gets hot. Iím going to try running it once it cools down and see if that helps. Has anyone had a bad coil kill a spark plug?
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: Glowing Muffler Headers Okay
« Last post by grader on October 15, 2018, 01:22:23 PM »
you said it was running rich before you worked on it, maybe the exhaust is now fuel soaked and is just burning off. also you are still rich if the plugs are black. take it for a good long ride and check it when you get back, the exhaust should clean out and you can recheck plugs.
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General GS500 Discussion / Glowing Muffler Headers Okay
« Last post by Ilikemotorcycles on October 15, 2018, 12:34:51 PM »
Iíve worked on bikes and engines for years but I canít get the GS500 to run right. :dunno_black:
2007 GS500f with only 1800 miles.

Before the carb rebuild the float needle center pin was stuck in the the needle  essentially making the floats set higher. This was making the engine flood very quickly. Wet plugs.

Iíve rebuilt the carbs, set float height(13mm)and checked that I have the little O ring under the diaphragm cover. I didnít replace diaphragms because they seem good and I left the carbs together because the fuel inlet T wasnít leaking. Fuel mixture screw set at 2.5

So the bike seemed to run fine so my next step was to go through the warm up procedure mentioned here and get the air mixture set and the idle where is should be. Starting on choke it would go to 3-4K like everyone says it should. After a minute I ride off through the neighborhood.

Iíd say after about 7-10 minutes I loop back by the house to check on everything. Iím getting some backfireing. Not a load crack like sometimes when you shut an engine off and start back immediately but just a consistently louder exhaust note than at cold start up. I can see the inside of the muffler is red-orange hot! But the headers are still black.

From what I understand the PAIR system routes clean air into the exhaust to finish burning any fuel.
The plugs are black so Iím guessing itís rich and making the muffler a second combustion chamber.
I can ride it long enough to get it ďfully warmĒ to start adjusting the carbs before the muffler starts cooking

I havenít checked the ignition timing or the valves but I wouldnít suspect that because of the low miles and if the valves or timing was making the exhaust red hot the headers would be red too?
What could be making it run like this?
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Rear brake is just for controlling your very slow speed noodling or in conjunction with riding the clutch in those slow manoeuvres where you need to do that or for balancing the front brake. But the problem is that if a sudden incident happens, you're very likely to get the front brake correct but end up fishtailing the rear.
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: Strange and scary clanking sound
« Last post by user11235813 on October 15, 2018, 12:14:24 PM »
Update:
 Yesterday I did another close look around with a torch after not finding anything else anywhere and lo and behold it was in fact a loose bolt on the centre stand which I did not notice as it is jammed up against the muffler.


So it was the center stand that was bouncing up and down?  I figured it had to be something big, for other motorists to take note.


No it wouldn't have been bouncing up and down the spring was fine and the bolt was in but it did stop a sort of jangling sound. It's been raining for ages here but soon after I was riding it there's still a different noise now. Not as bad as it was but something strange it's sounds as if some huge object keeps shifting around. Can't work it out, been waiting for the rain to stop. So I'll be reporting back once I go over it all again!

There seems to be some backlash in the rear wheel, could there be a problem with the rubber damper inside the rear wheel hub?
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