But this is a huge inference. In the video there isn't a clear view of his speedometer, nor does he pass a posted speed limit. We only know these facts from secondary data. Same with the very fact it is in Texas.
I guess I am technically trusting the rider's words here regarding the speed and the dismissal of the ticket for crossing the double yellow, since that's the only source of info I have besides the video itself. As for it being in Texas, that's where all the news reports I've seen on it have been from so I'm fairly sure that's accurate.
Given the video in it of itself it looks like riders being hooligans, and it's judged as such by the public. And like it or not, that IS what drivers think.
It's not until the facts are on the table that we can step back and say "I guess they were well within their rights," but how many people who watch the video will take the time to learn about the incident? 10%?
I didn't think the video made them look like hooligans... All it shows it the camera rider riding alone for a bit, then pulling up and following the lead rider for a bit (presumably waiting to see if the traffic in front of them was going to speed up, but this admittedly is conjecture), and then you see the lead rider attempt to pass the SUV ahead of him and the white Cougar that hit him. It didn't even look like they were speeding prior to being held up by the slower traffic. I guess one can argue that the act of passing on the double yellow makes them look like hooligans, but I don't think that passing on the double yellow immediately identifies you as a squid. If they had been flying by normal traffic or ripping wheelies and stuff, then yeah I would agree, but they were basically just riding normally until attempting the pass.
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That is really interesting about being allowed to pass on double yellow there. I still can't say I ever would. Tbh I'm probably one of the most cautious and non-risk-taking riders/drivers out there... I don't even pass on those solid stripe + dotted stripe passing zones.
Seems a bit overly cautious to not ever pass even when it is legal to lol. But I guess I understand. Entering the opposing lane is something you generally want to avoid lol.
And what I meant was, is that none of that would have happened had the biker been patient and just went along for the ride instead of passing two people as he attempted to do. Lots of people I'm sure don't realize (like me) that it's actually legal where he was to pass on a double yellow... and that's what I meant when I said, "this kind of thing is a reason why people hate bikers."
Ehh, like I said before, even if the pass were technically illegal, I don't think it qualifies as a reason to not like bikers. Being patient and just putting along at 35 in a 60 zone can be unsafe, since cars approaching at normal speed from behind won't see brake lights and may not slow down and that means you are much more likely to be rear-ended. So, passing the slower traffic while it's clear in the opposing lane seems like the safer move.
Serious question: am I the only one (out of anyone who reads this cuz I can't really ask the world lol!) who slows down and gives plenty of space and patience when I come up on someone riding/driving slower than I think is necessary? And if I get tailgated or whatever myself then I just pull over off the road and let people go safely ahead of me. I honestly don't really ever pass anyone unless it's on the highway and there's a passing lane or lanes and I can do it without going crazy. I guess all my friends that say I'm an 80 year old woman trapped in a 30 year old's body are being truthful LOL
My initial reaction would be to slow down as well (and not tailgate, obviously), and try and ascertain why they have slowed. Maybe they've seen something ahead that I haven't, or perhaps there is some adverse road condition I can't see because of them being in front of me. But, if I've followed them for a minute or two and can't see any real reason for them to be going that slow, I would probably try to pass for the reasons I stated earlier. I don't like not having an escape route, and I feel like having a weird driver in front of me would impede my ability to properly react to the situation.
Edit cuz of qc's reply: I totally agree that someone going slow makes me wonder. I too want to get away from anyone driving strangely on the road. But instead of speeding up to get near them, pass them, and try to get ahead/away from them, I use my "slow down and give them space" tactic... because I'd rather them be waaaaaay ahead of me and away from me than me getting closer to them and (in this example) potentially provoke them into doing something harmful or crazy.
I get where you're coming from and I see your point. But, slowing down and allowing a driver to dictate your pace (and possibly prevent you from escaping) doesn't sit well with me. I'd much rather pass them, downshift and be gone. And if I get pulled over, I can at least have a valid excuse for why I was speeding.