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General GS500 Discussion / Re: lower\upper crank case swap
« Last post by J_Walker on Today at 05:40:22 PM »
right. so do i understand correctly i cant use my original big end bearings with the new crank case even though the crankshaft stays the same? Lets say i will get both upper and lower cases.

Not worried about this job being overly complicated as have had my engine apart already for gearbox swap. The cost of it.. upper and lower end approx  100 plus a gasket set. if it is going to be big end bearings as well.. And to do it only to get the engine mount sorted :( Any ideas how to get the front engine mount fixed without all this ?

Cheers,
Lauri

Rachet straps hold everything....

Right, okay there's code stamped on the rear of your engine, says A or B, there will be code stamped on your crankshaft, it says A, B, or C. you compare these two to their respective locations. to get the right sized bearing. so saying on the rear of the engine reads A, and the one on the crankshaft says C. you need a "brown" bearing. so you look and it gives you a part number, (12229-01 DOO-OCO) would be your Brown bearing for that set. its all in the manual.

So here's what you can re-use.
The Two main ball bearings, "big bearings"
The Connecting rod bearings.

The rest of the babbit bearings have to be replaced both that contact the crankshaft and the balancer shaft. A total of 12, Remember when you place an order for the bearings themselves, they don't come in sets [stupid I KNOW, WHO NEEDS ONE HALF OF A BEARING?!] but replacing all 12 bearing shells. is $105.36 USD not cheap...
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Tard Farm / Re: Last Post Wins - V3
« Last post by yamahonkawazuki on Today at 05:27:49 PM »
and perform a maneuver called a sphincter clencher lol.
Aaron
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: lower\upper crank case swap
« Last post by Sahtlinurk on Today at 05:20:28 PM »
right. so do i understand correctly i cant use my original big end bearings with the new crank case even though the crankshaft stays the same? Lets say i will get both upper and lower cases.

Not worried about this job being overly complicated as have had my engine apart already for gearbox swap. The cost of it.. upper and lower end approx  100 plus a gasket set. if it is going to be big end bearings as well.. And to do it only to get the engine mount sorted :( Any ideas how to get the front engine mount fixed without all this ?

Cheers,
Lauri









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Odds n Ends / Re: Any Walking Dead Fans?
« Last post by cbrfxr67 on Today at 04:51:15 PM »
Not so much a Walking Dead fan but I've recently finished binge watching and would recommend catching episodes of Ride with Norman Reedus.
I recorded 5 or so ep's and wanted to watch them.  Texas was ok and then I watched Louisiana.  When he went to the voodoo store and kneeled in front of a voodoo statue I turned it off.  Kind of lost any interest after that,... 
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Odds n Ends / Re: Any Walking Dead Fans?
« Last post by pliskin on Today at 03:00:17 PM »
Another good show this season is Happy! The second episode just aired on Syfy. From the previews I thought it was going to be good but after seeing the first 2 episodes I think it's awesome. Happy is the imaginary friend of a little girl that gets kidnapped. Happy finds this washed up drunk cop and makes himself visible to him so he can help find the little girl. You should check it out. Lots of kick-ass action.

Mr. Robot is another great show. But if you haven't watched the first 2 seasons you would be totally lost as to what it's even about. Fargo and Vikings are two more good shows.
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Odds n Ends / Re: Any Walking Dead Fans?
« Last post by qcbaker on Today at 01:28:07 PM »
I missed the mid season, but enjoy the show.  Was pretty confused why Carl was getting killed off but I like your prediction!  That'd be such a great twist if it was true.
Alot of crybabies whine on the comments and it's just an entertaining show.  I don't see why people take it so seriously.
i don't know wth that helicopter was.  Any ideas?


No idea about the helicopter. Maybe there's a small group of the military or something that's still alive somewhere relatively close. Norfolk maybe?
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: lower\upper crank case swap
« Last post by J_Walker on Today at 12:36:48 PM »
you have to replace both halves.

Along with bearings- you WONT be able to re-use the bearings in there! DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT, the only bearings you can get away with is the 2 ball bearings, and the connecting rod bearings [assuming they're still within spec.] the balancer shaft bearings and crank will for sure need to be matched, and replaced.

if you're in it for the adventure. Good luck. its gonna get pricey. [$500+ for parts alone]

if you're in it for just getting back on the road. buy a new engine. [$500 for an engine]

Also you can't swap a newer lower end, because of the oil cooler and stuffs. unless of course you get those bits to add.

If you've got questions or need some pro-tips. feel free to ask, I personally just finished mine like a week ago.


I'll start off with a free pro-tip. get a JIS screw driver set, and ANY Philips head looking screw thats inside the engine, just SMACK it with heat, lots of friggin heat, like pretend you're trying to melt the bolt itself. Suzuki decided to use cheese grade bolts, and slap some gnarly loctite all the way up the threads... once you think you've loosened the loctite, I put the driver bit into a hand drill [the one I use for boring 1 inch holes in 12+ inches of timber] pushed all my body weight into it, and gave it a squeeze, and pray it comes out without ripping the bolts to shreds. [I got 1 of 3 in a particular spot] - this was before I knew suzuki was playing the "lets waste loctite" game.
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: Valve shim size really small?
« Last post by J_Walker on Today at 11:52:46 AM »
irreparable damage...

no, not really, just pull the head off and swap it out with another one from a good bike. it's actually really EZ if you have a whole shops worth of tools to do it with! yeah they'd have to buy another head, but a quick Ebay glance like 125ish dollars.
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General GS500 Discussion / Re: repairing rusty fork tubes
« Last post by J_Walker on Today at 11:49:25 AM »
my two cent. CA is optically clear, Epoxy will never be, there for - cosmetic things i go towards CA, for chemical resistance or flex related applications, Epoxy.

as far as the fork tube goes, replace it. if you live around the north east, you're gonna have a lot of marine machinist. they should be able to help out if you call around. A tube of chrome moly, true'd up on a lathe in theory should be a fine replacement. on the high end, non-best friend discount, its about $70/hr and should run about 3 hours for making up both. [a lazy machinist will say a total of 4] plus the cost of material, and maybe tooling [I have a guy who never charge for tooling, because he factors it in.] so if you can't find a good set for under 500 bucks total.. i'd start calling machinist.

Problem with forks, its one of those things that ALWAYs go on crashed bikes. so makes them hard to find. of course you will always find them AFTER you bought a pair.

A fork tube is much more than just a steel tube, not something that can fabbed in a machine shop, at least not cost effectively.

Actually, it really just is a steel tube... and I've had thicker walled ones made up for old 90s two stroke dirtbikes.
Also note I said marine machine shops. these guys are use to truing up and turning long, boat output shafts to the thou. asking one of these guys to turn up a set of forks is like asking a gunsmith to turn you up a steel skewer. lol

A set of fork tubes for my dirtbike ran me 200 dollars, and that's from already having bought the material stock to use as said fork tubes. and my machinist was confident enough that it would work just fine and would be stronger then the stock ones for sure. [bent 2 stock ones hitting turtle holes] but I get the good buddy discount with my machinist. not the just met you, bend over discount.
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Tard Farm / Re: Last Post Wins - V3
« Last post by Electrojake on Today at 02:30:24 AM »
Hey Yama,
Cool bike porn GIF's  :bowdown:

It kinda' reminds me of how much I cant ride for sh!t. Of course at my age (61), if I slide thru a corner its controlled terror, NOT skill. :icon_mrgreen:
-Ej-
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