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Title: MSF question.
Post by: BRB96Z34 on July 20, 2004, 05:06:05 PM
Before I could take the motorcycle safety course up here I had to complete and pass the written test first.  Only then would I get a permit that would allow me to operate a motorcycle on the course and only on the course.  During the course we were supplied bikes and upon successful completion we were given our learners license to operate a motorcyle on the street.  It wasn't until I got my learners that I got the GS.  How does it work in your area?  Is it similar to this?
Title: MSF question.
Post by: AR5ENAL on July 20, 2004, 05:12:55 PM
I don't remember it working that way.  I just signed up for the MSF course, paid my fee, and got through it.  After that, they gave me a certificate that waived the riding test at the DMV.  All I needed to do to get my license was complete the written test at the DMV.  Hope this helps!
Title: MSF question.
Post by: BRB96Z34 on July 20, 2004, 05:16:59 PM
I still have to wait for nine months before I can take my written test for my full license.  Till then I can't drive at night and I can't have a passenger.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: Hi-T on July 20, 2004, 05:19:10 PM
Are you like 15 or something?  That's alot of hoops to jump through...  I ditto Arsenal.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: Stoobings on July 20, 2004, 05:31:31 PM
in michigan you have basically two options-

take MSF and written test at DMV
or
take written test at DMV and a riding test with a certified instructor.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: manofthefield on July 20, 2004, 05:35:27 PM
I took the written test and rode around for a while on my learner's permit.  Once I took my msf, I went and traded the msf certificate for a license.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: BRB96Z34 on July 20, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
Hehe, no I'm not 15, I'm 35.  Wish I was 15 again though.  It is a pain in the ass to have to go through all of that but I have no choice.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: Narcoden on July 20, 2004, 06:11:45 PM
In Illinois, all I did was take the class for free one weekend.

They provided all the bikes for at least 50 people.  In three days we did class and range.  Friday night was class.  Saturday morning was on the bikes, sat afternoon was class.  Sunday Morning was on the bikes.  Then Sunday after lunch we did a riding test.  After the riding test, everyone took the written test.  We then got a card waiving any DMV tests.  I got 100% on both riden and written  :nana:   All I had to do was pay $10 to the DMV for the "M" endorsment on my license the next day.

Almost a year later and I'm still alive  :cheers:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: John Bates on July 20, 2004, 06:44:02 PM
In Ohio USA:

1.  Pay $21 and get the forms and study books.

2. Take the written and vision tests and get your temp. license.  You can ride for a year on your temp.  Must wear helmet, no riders, no night rides, no freeways or congested highways.

3. Either:  
a: Practice on your own till you think your ready for the skills test.  Eight of ten fail the test this way.
                                        or
b: Take the MSF course ($25 they supply the bikes), the skills test is waved.

4. Pay $63 to get your full license.  Helmet is required for one year after full license is obtained.

I was lucky.  As one of eight walk-ins, I won a raffle for one of two no-show seats in the MSF class.  Thanks to the MSF class I had my full license just a couple of weeks after getting my temp. license.

I had never ridden a bike before. Yahooooo!!  :cheers:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: jag69 on July 20, 2004, 07:03:08 PM
In Tucson, AZ both tests were taken care of at the MSF class.  If you passed both you went to DMV to get your motorcycle endorsment.  That was it .... no prerequisites.  They provided the bikes, gloves, and helmets.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: A_Rivers on July 20, 2004, 07:12:23 PM
Here's how it went for me in Tennessee. I am 21. Paid $150 for the MSF course, The class was 3 days, Friday night, all Saturday and half of Sunday. Friday we did half of the work book, Saturday we did the first half of the riding exercises, then went inside for the rest of the book stuff and took the written test, Sunday we did the rest of the riding exercises and took the final riding test. After passing I got a certificate which I took to the DMV, they checked my eyesite and I payed $15 for the M endorsment on my license and now I can ride anytime no restrictions.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: ifonline on July 20, 2004, 07:56:06 PM
In Georgia, the process is a mess, to say the least.

1. Contact the DMVS to obtain a list of available course dates and locations.
2. Choose a date and location and fill out the form.
3. Send in the form with $250.00.
4. Find out the class filled up from the time you called the DMVS to the time you submitted the form.
5. Pick a new date and location and call to re-schedule your class.
6. Receive a letter from the DMVS informing you that you are enrolled, but if you miss any portion of the class, you forfeit your money and lose your spot in the class.

The class is three days: Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Friday is all workbook. Saturday is riding and workbook. Sunday is riding and testing (both written and road).

After successful completion of the class, you receive a card that you take to the DMVS to get your full license. You don't have to test (neither written nor road), and you can qualify for a 10% discount on insurance.

All in all, not too bad.

Ian
Title: MSF question.
Post by: BRB96Z34 on July 20, 2004, 08:04:29 PM
Wow, you guys are lucky.  It seems as if the government here doesn't want people riding bikes.  That and the high cost of insurance up here.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: oppy00 on July 20, 2004, 10:07:40 PM
Whoa!! there ifonline.   I only paid $50 here in GA. :nana:  I think my class took the written part Sat. night, but I"m not sure.  However, it did take 3 weeks or so for me to recieve all my paper work.  Gotta love that speed and efficiency, eh??  :roll:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: crash on July 20, 2004, 11:28:21 PM
yeah, mine was about $160...

if i remember right, the price depended on where you took your course.  250 sounds like a harley dealership price  :roll:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: glenn9171 on July 21, 2004, 11:59:59 AM
Here in Louisiana, you bring a properly licensed and insured bike to the DMV.  You take the written test and a riding test.  The riding part consists of circling the block once.  If you are still alive when you return, you just passed.  Congratulations!   :mrgreen:   By the time I got back from the around-the-block trip, the "instructor" was already back inside and had the rest of the paperwork filled out.  

The MSF is strictly optional and not required to get licensed, though it will let you bypass the riding portion of the testing.  There's usually about a 1-2 month wait for the MSF here, depending on the time of the year.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: soon2briding on July 21, 2004, 02:05:31 PM
anybody taken the experienced rider course for the msf? is it worth the money.. what does the class consist of?
Title: MSF question.
Post by: ifonline on July 21, 2004, 03:36:05 PM
Quote from: oppy00Whoa!! there ifonline.   I only paid $50 here in GA. :nana:  I think my class took the written part Sat. night, but I"m not sure.  However, it did take 3 weeks or so for me to recieve all my paper work.  Gotta love that speed and efficiency, eh??  :roll:

It used to be free a few years ago where I am. Now, it's gouge time! However, I just received my certification card in the mail this afternoon, so it only took a week and a half to get the paperwork back after completing the course. Not too bad.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: ghettorigged on July 21, 2004, 05:56:42 PM
Quote from: manofthefieldI took the written test and rode around for a while on my learner's permit.  Once I took my msf, I went and traded the msf certificate for a license.

same here....mostly. :D

I had to go to the DMV to get my learner permit in order to sign up for the class (learner permit is required to take the MSF in NY). Then I took the MSF course and took the graduation certificate to the DMV in exchange for my full license upgrade.  :cheers:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: ghettorigged on July 21, 2004, 05:59:52 PM
By the way, you ALL SUCK!  :nana:

NY charges anywhere from $325-$400 for the MSF class.  :guns:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: davipu on July 21, 2004, 06:55:46 PM
that all sounds pretty easy compared to the crap that we have to deal with to ride on base.  ok here goes:
buy motorcycle
rent off base storage, or have trailer and truck
get permit $20 at dmv 2 hour test on puter.
find someone to teach you how to ride
either take driving test at dmv $10 or
 take msf course, up to 6 months waiting list
take cert to dmv get full licence $10
trailer it on base,  2 hour min. wait at pass and ID
   must have: military id, drivers licence w/ endorsement, regestration -   no temp tags, insurance, inspection sticker, msf course card.  
submit to daily harrasment by Military Pigs
have name on stupid lists of people required to attend quarterly training (basicly tri-monthly 4 hour ass chewings for being "different"  

Note: the marine corps used to give out vouchers that you whould take down to the community college for the $75 for the basic course. now the course is offered on base but you have to have your own bike. I guess you are soupposed to sneek it on in your cargo pocket or something .  they require you to have the course to regiester the bike on base, but to get the course you have to have the bike regestered on base. I don't get it.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: PITBULL on July 21, 2004, 09:00:03 PM
I live in Georgia all I had to do was take a written exam of 20 questions got a learners permit that last up to 6 months but then you have to ride your bike in front of an instructor and do like 3 or 4 test then they give you a ful lisence that allows you to ride at night passengers so on    but you only have to have the learners for a day what the heck is that    it took me longer than a day to even get to ride a second time being I dumped the bike and got some nice roadrash in the first 24 hours of owning the bike.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: crash on July 21, 2004, 11:57:25 PM
Quote from: PITBULLI live in Georgia all I had to do was take a written exam of 20 questions got a learners permit that last up to 6 months but then you have to ride your bike in front of an instructor and do like 3 or 4 test then they give you a ful lisence that allows you to ride at night passengers so on    but you only have to have the learners for a day what the heck is that    it took me longer than a day to even get to ride a second time being I dumped the bike and got some nice roadrash in the first 24 hours of owning the bike.
punctuation is your friend  :thumb:
Title: MSF question.
Post by: TOMIMOTO on July 22, 2004, 12:07:30 AM
Here in NH I got my learners permit by paying 30 bux and showing my license. Then today I just showed up and rode my bike through some cones and got my license. The price of the permit also included getting my license. This was the easiest license I ever got. I'm still going to be taking MSF courses just to learn.

It's kind of scary though. Some numb-nut can go buy a 1000CC bike. Get his permit and kill himself in 30 days. You don't need any experience at all. You show up, pay them 30 bux and show them your license and you get a permit. The guy wasn't really failing anyone at the test either. The majority of these people looked like they didn't even know what a motorcycle was better yet knowing how to ride it. There was about 15 people and only 2 got failed. Scary stuff knowing there out on the road.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: BRB96Z34 on July 22, 2004, 03:47:57 PM
Quote from: TOMIMOTOIt's kind of scary though. Some numb-nut can go buy a 1000CC bike. Get his permit and kill himself in 30 days. You don't need any experience at all. You show up, pay them 30 bux and show them your license and you get a permit. The guy wasn't really failing anyone at the test either. The majority of these people looked like they didn't even know what a motorcycle was better yet knowing how to ride it. There was about 15 people and only 2 got failed. Scary stuff knowing there out on the road.

That is scary  :o   Thinking about it, I'm glad that it's as strict as it is up here.  At least you HAVE to go through the course before you can even get on a bike.  I too was soo inexperienced about bikes that I wasn't sure which was the clutch and which was the brake let alone how to change gears.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: proudlom on July 23, 2004, 02:49:45 AM
I live in Alberta, Canada, and it's legal to drive a motorcycle (with someone that has a motorcycle license on with or following behind you) with either a regular learner's license (Class 7) or a regular car driver's license (Class 5).  Once you feel you're ready to get your motorcycle license (Class 6), you write the written portion (just 20 multiple choice questions, heh) and then get a permit that allows you to do your road test.  Once, you pass that, you get your Class 6, or Class 56 if you already have a driver's license, and you're good to go.
Title: MSF question.
Post by: Anonymous on July 23, 2004, 04:39:48 AM
Y'all need to come to Alabama.  I couldn't believe how easy it is.

1.  Go to the drivers license people and take an EASY 20 question written test.

That's it.  Pass the test, pay like $5 for a new licence and ride away.