Ok so as some people might or might know, i've been getting help about turning my carbs... So when messing with carbs it requires full acceleration across RPM to see if there's stumbling, etc. So i've been having this problem with stumbling... so i've been going up and down my block with either full-1/2-or whatever throttle trying to figure it out.
So last night was no exception. So i'm heading out of my street to try another round to conclude what was going on... maybe doing 40mph. I see this guy, he locks eyes with me and then walks directly in front of me and stands there. I lock up my tires in a panic to keep from hitting this SOB :x and ALLLLLLMOST go into a low side. I come around because obviously he did it on purpose... he's still standing there looking pissed off. I come to a stop and the next thing i hear is "you F'ing a**hole, next time i'll knock you on a F'ing A**! in shock, i say "you could have made me crash... He looks at me "i wish you had crashed!" Still in shock, i say "you want my life on your hands?" "Ya i do, next time i'm gonna make your crash" I just lost it then and what follows was me telling him to "F" off and if he has a problem with me he can come talk to me like a man, and NOT stand in front of me. he just walks away... another neighbor comes out and just starts chiming in saying how he'll call the police next time, etc etc. I was so pissed, and shook up... i can't even believe people are like that. I'm going to file an incident report with the sheriff today. "F" that guy.
Anyone had ANYTHING happen to them like this??? Am i really unlucky?
jon
Not to me... however jetting is to be done mostly in top gear... you have to test it in 5th or 6th... it should work well under load.
Cool.
Srinath.
Where's a good place to do it? Main street? obviously i can't do it on my street anymore. I could notice a huge stumbling right off the line in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, didn't get to any other because it was so pronounced. Now that i'm thinking about it... the bike really really picked up at 4k rpm... i would pull back on the throttle and it'd just maintain same speed, or maybe really slowly increase RPM at lower rpm until the 4K spot. It's gotta be the pilot jets if it's that high rpm.
OK Pilots only work to 1/8 throttle... 4K under 1-2-3 is a wide enough throttle position range... 40 pilots wont make any diff to this specific issue ... try them and see. That's slide... all slide. Pilots will sorta feel a little sluggish as you try to take off from a stop... in first. After that... nohting else. I'd ride it on a highway... for the high speed stuff, low speed I try my and other neighbor hoods... but not racing down them... or other local roads..
Cool.
Srinath.
You need to have someone ride your bike so you can appreciate just how loud the VH exhaust can be... No doubt your neighbors were annoyed (even though they over reacted).
My favorite road for tunning is on the back side of our airport- freshly paved, 4 lanes, straight for 3 miles and rarely used. The jets kick in based on throttle postition. So you'll want to see how the bike reacts at Wide open and 3/4 throttles- and higher gears can make a difference- I had a couple problems surface in 4-6th gear WOT... anyway- your neighborhood streets may not be the best choice.
Have you checked the packing in your muffler. I repacked mine and dropped the dB s. I could actually hear the engine over the muffler again... neighbors and family appreciated the lowered noise level.
He was being an Ass, but so were you by not considering how annoying it is to have a bike roaring up and down in front of your house.
:nono:
pay for my plane ticket and i'll hide in his bushes and tackle him if he tries it again.
there's never reall a justification for acting like that guy did. That said, gunning your bike up and down my street would probably piss me off enough (eventually) to come ask you to stop.
His threats and dangerous actions aren't acceptable at all, but you have to remember the old axom: "you have to give respect to get respect."
Neighborhoods are for living, not for full-throttle testing of your new (and probably obscenely loud) exhaust system. Is there an industrial park or some similar, non-residential are nearby, or some remote country roads? Either would probably be a better place to do this stuff than up and down your block.
I'm not saying you're a jerk, just that you might not have considered how loud you are being and/or the way it would make your neighbors feel.
Just put new packing in the exhaust.... he was a young guy, late 20s. He could have talked to me, not TRY AND DELIBRATELY make me crash. Besides, he OWNS A 636 NINJA!
some people are just asses. plain and simple.
Quote from: mercdude63Just put new packing in the exhaust.... he was a young guy, late 20s. He could have talked to me, not TRY AND DELIBRATELY make me crash. Besides, he OWNS A 636 NINJA!
Bike owner or not, he should have known better than to do something that could hurt you...and bike owner or not, he should be mature enough to be able to act with civility and class.
Those both go double since the jerk rides.
I'll agree on the neighbors thing.
I found out shortly after working on a "project" 1898 Iroc (11.3-ish 1/4 Mile Car) that my neighborhood was kind of "uppity" and old.
Now they really don't like me Since I got the VH exhaust on my GS. I think my neighbors thought everything would go back to normal after I sold the IROC.
The wife and I keep odd hours, so for us to fire up the IROC at 3 AM to go to Perkins, or IHOP would really, really, upset them.
But yeah, Deciding at 10/11 pm to go ride the strip in the GS tends to make a few bedroom lights come on ion my block. :-)
Then its a good thing you don't own a TL1000 (or any other big twin) with Yosh pipes.
A buddy of mine used to have one, and when he'd come over I would swear my house was being buzzed by a Huey!
I warm-up the bike on a noisy street. I've recieved no complaints from neighbors.
Why not just go to the neighbor(s) and see if you can work something out? Maybe they think you are some a**hole who doesn't give a damn about their peace and quiet etc. Or maybe you could just spend the week-end at the local dragstrip until you get the bike sorted. I love my teeny GS and the mighty GStwin forum.
C.......
Cause i'm afraid he's just going to be the same unreasonable person and then i'm going to loose it and hurt him.
jon
screw that. next time run him over.
yeah next time i'm going to accelerate and hit him... that mother f*****
Must be a growing trend of shaZam! head neighbors epidimic spreading the the US. I live what I thought was out in the country until everybody else decided to move out here on this street a few years back. Mostly old retired people live over here now with nothing better to do but sit around and worry about what somebody else is doing. Ive got neighbors that treatened to shoot my dog because they said it tried to attack their grandaughter. I watched the whole thing, they were trying to lure my dog onto their property with dog treats. But Jon, Ill do you one better. I have a pro street chevy pickup running on NOS that I was trying to dial in one day long ago. Went out here on this real straight stretch of road where there is like only one house and its way off the road. So I launch and lay into the NOS, do may 1/4 mile pass on this road and was coasting the rest of the way to slow down when all of a sudden this @$$hole is standing in the middle of the road pointing and screaming at me. Bear in mind, Im still going about 90 mph when I see this idiot so I go around him barely missing him. He jumped in his truck and came tried to chase me. Even tried to run me off the road at one point. Anyways, he followed me to my house and tried to start some shaZam! like he was gonna kill me bla bla bla. Glad to know Im not the only one with shaZam! head neighbors. Sorry about the ramble. :dunno:
There is an old saying..."don't shaZam! in your own yard"...TALK to some of these people or take it to the track. Be the bigger, better man. I love that little ol' GS and the forum.
C.......
Bizzare isn't it. What would really possess someone to do something like that?
To address that comment, i think he already shaZam! in his own bed, cause i quite literally hate that SOB. I don't think i've ever hated someone in my whole life like i hate this guy. I mean, in my mind... that was an act of attempted murder. His body was the weapon that was being used against me to kill me. it's like throwing up a roadblock when you know someone can't stop in time. he wasn't like down the street, he jumped out in front of me at like 50' away. DO the math, i COULDN"T stop in time. MF'er.
I agree, I think you should talk to the guy and tell him that you're sorry and didnt' realize you were disturbing him. I'm not saying you were a jerk by doing what you were doing, that ball definately falls in his court, but I do think that you were inadvertently disturbing the peace in your neighborhood. It's like my beef with people that drive in the fast lane doing 59 mph and won't move out of the way to let me pass. I really want to kill them sometimes for being so inconsiderate when they see me there and know what I want.
Promote the positive. Lord knows I need to take my own advice. I need to watch Pay it Forward again to refresh my memory.
As far as i'm concerned, i did promote the positive. I didn't beat his ass within an inch of his life like i wanted to. What i did do instead was tell him if he has a problem with me, come talk to me. Isn't that promoting positive???
merc, I can understand how you'd be ticked over the incident as far as how he reacted to the situation. However, from you profile I see you list your occupation as Human Resource Management. C'mon, utilize those skills and BE THE BETTER MAN. If everybody in the world waited for the other person to make the first "pact" move then the circle of hate would just grow wider and wider...come to think of it, the circle does grow wider doesn't it. Go to the track. Ah, I just love that tiny little bike and the forum dedicated to it, don't you?
C.......
If you promoted the positive by waving a fist in his face and saying you'd better talk to me like a real man then I would argue with your methods. I would try to have a rational discussion with the man and any other neighbors near by. Do you have any one in the neighborhood that you normally talk or even joke with? Maybe they can give you the scoop on what caused the angry incident. Best way to get it solved is to talk it out though. No fisticuffs if at all possible.
mike
he could have flagged you down, no need to be an @$$hole. In my opinion people are getting more and irate on the roads and in neighborhoods in general . I try to be polite and drive nice both in my cars and bike, but sometimes (see my post from a week or two ago aabout the two guys in two days that just pulled out in front of me) you just wanna kill. I don't care what the rational or polite thing is to do. the problem is they don't give a shaZam! about you and more and more often I don't give a shaZam! about them. Next one is getting a size 11 jump boot in the door or head if they choose to poke it out of the window.
jake
"...jump boot in the door or head...". I have a friend who actually did that while riding once...broke his foot like a pencil at the ankle. Meet violence with violence and what do you get? All the people who are going to jump this person or flip this person off or whatever, how do you know that person isn't going to pull out a gun or knife or whatever? Just love...the bike, the forum, anybody who you can extend it to.
C.......
Quote from: Rema1000bake him a bundt cake with "I'm sorry" written in currants. .
LMAO :lol:
What would have been the appropriate thing for Jon to do if this jackass caused him to lowside his bike and get injured in the process? "Oh, I understand that you're upset about riding my bike up and down the street. I deserved to get my bike trashed and my arm and leg broken and road rash for doing that. Thanks for putting my life in danger to see your point. I wont do it again." People just don't care about one another these says. I'm sorry but talking it out with irrational people is not the thing to do. They wont listen to you because they dont give a shaZam! about you or what you got to say. What the guy should have done is try to flag him down in the street or wait until he put his bike up and walk over there and say "Hey I see you're working on your bike and all but do you think you could tone it down a little or do that somewhere else because it is a little loud. I would appreciate it''. Jon wouldve probably said something like "No problem. Sorry if I disturbed you in any way. I'll do it another time or somewhere else". Insted the jerk jumps out in front of him in a deliberate attempt to cause a crash. Now, would you really want to go over to this guys house and sit down and talk over a nice cup of tea after he did that to you?
my point exactly destroyer.. If he wants to be a jagoff(pittsburgh slang) then he deserves to be booted.
:guns:
jake
sometimes violence is fun
Quotescrew that. next time run him over
see, on my street, you would be the dead one, i dont abide anyone racing up and down the streets, i cant say for other states, but in fla, 25mph is the limit on residential streets. 40? dont care, its too fast. i walked out in front of a camaro with a tire iron who was doing much the same, he thought i was gonna move, i didnt. he hit the brakes and stopped 2 inches from my shins, he came out screaming that im an @$$hole and that he was testing his new engine. i asked if thats what he was gonna tell the parents of the child he kills, or the judge before he sends you to prison for vehicular manslaughter? i have a 5 year old son, and though he looks both ways most the time, it only takes once. and 40 on a residential street is wrong, even 25 given conditions could be too fast. its not worth it. I am a fellow rider, i will defend my brothers and sisters of 2/3 wheels till hell freezes if they are right. but i would have no reservations with stopping a rider from doing that very same thing. i dont think its a hard choice for anyone else either, My son/ a childs life Vs injuring someone tuning thier ride in the wrong place in the wrong manner. everyone can hate me, if they wish. my son/ the child comes first.
ok, should have proof read, didnt quite come out right. i would not intentionaly knock a person off, i wouldnt wait till last second to walk out either, you will see me long before you got there. but if i ask you to cool it and your out the next day/week doing it again, then your chances of getting hurt increase, ALOT.
Quote, cause i quite literally hate that SOB. I don't think i've ever hated someone in my whole life like i hate this guy. I mean, in my mind... that was an act of attempted murder. His body was the weapon that was being used against me to kill me.
Best way to handle the situation is to
swear up a storm right there on the spot. Get it all off your chest and save the apologies for afterwards. :x
Then you can exhibit your superior maturity by admitting it was inconsiderate to disturb the neighborhood with your V/H pipe and K/N filter. :P
Always leave the
physical confrontation option off the table lest the resulting anxiety
ties your tongue preventing you from fully articulating your anger. Besides, it's easier to lose a fight than it is to lose fighting off an attacker. :guns:
Anyway, this is much more therapeutic than going on a slow burn over what you woulda coulda done 12 hours after the fact. :roll:
An ignition advancer could help your low end a little.
I have to agree with the fact that he handled his anger regarding your inconsideration rather poorly.
Be nice and give him some sweetness.... right in his gas tank.
:thumb:
ive been the (almost) same situation, when i was checking my bike out. o live amongst/near fellow riders,rodders etc. weve come to an understanding to limit the noise, or do it at certain times/speeds. im not anywhere near a track so its not an option. but ive made a few high speed runs near a leo's house, and he was pretty tolerant. dunno bout that fellers position.
Thanks for the thoughts guys.
My person opinion is that he has a few different issues, none of which i can ever understand since i am 99.9% of the time a SUPER safe rider... i've already crashed once and that was enough for me.
1. The guy himself was a inconsiderate jackass and used to do all kinds of wheelies, etc, on his own bike when he was a few years younger.
2. There's probably been other people, i just moved in down the street about 3 months ago, going up and down the street as such before doing wheelies and whatnot.
3. I believe the guy did mention he has a kid... although i've never seen him/her.
HOWEVER, What the f***! Intentionally endangering someone's life is NOT the right way of going about it.
And as far as i'm concerned, and thank you Stephen for sticking up for me here, that his actions were attempted assalt with intent of murder. the only reason i couldn't press charges is because he didn't have a weapon. But if i were a lawyer, which i'm not, i would state that his body is arguably being used as a weapon and that the danger still lies when riding a motorcycle.
All the guy had to do was come over and talk to me. That's a hell of lot easier than almost killing me... which after that, if my relatives dont' get him first, he'd ruin his life going to prison... then the life of his wife and kid's... etc etc etc. down the spiralling chain of doom.
Maybe fathers should think about THAT before they willingly endanger themselves.
You know what, my father would do something just that stupid like that and i always wondered when i was a child, what IF you actually DO hurt someone? then i don't have a father, my mom doesn't have a husband.... then what??? emotional/psychological damage that will forever follow me and F-up my relationships/life to come.
MY QUESTION IS: IS IT REALLY WORTH IT WHEN ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TALK TO SOMEONE?
I usually just down shift... and dont brake... and I try to aim for the crotch... just dont get target fixated and follow him into his driveway... when he gets wind of it and tries to get away... then go to him and say what you think... When cages cut me off turning left from a driveway or side street... I aim for the driver... and down shift and honk. Usually they get away... and an accident is avoided... I am not just going down only to have them go OK well he fell all by himself... and continue on their way. easier for me to do it on the eli... usually people dont want to get run over/hit by a 600 lb bike, that looks like its all steel.
Cool.
Srinath.
Fine. Your right. Happy?
What's the right answer? No matter what people say, it's not the right thing unless they agree with you. People have their own opinions and apparently all you wanted was someone to agree with you. Let us know that is all you want next time and I'm sure a couple people will be happy to oblidge. :dunno:
All I'm asking is (and these are rehtorical)...what started this chain of events in your post? and what is your participation in it? are you completely innocent or is your ego in the way of admitting you might have contributed to your own near crash.
Look, I'm not saying I never do anything wrong; I'm saying that I'm not going to agree with you to make you feel better about yourself.
P.S. - i definately think that guy was an ASS for jumping in front of you.
Actually, i started this post to determine if this is something other people have encountered and how they handled it... (see my first post.) I didn't start asking people how they would personally handle it or to make judgements on how i handled it... i don't think.
But thanks for the psuedo-psychoanalysis. Perhpas on some level i do truly want someone to agree with me, but i'd say more like bond with me over a shitty situation that almost got me seriously hurt just like every other thread on here does when it says "almost crashed today."
I admit to speeding, see my first post, but i hardly do it, especially in residential areas. So that combined with a loud exhaust (but seriously, who doesn't on a sport bike nowadays?) could definately make neighbors angry. There's my catharthis.
Maybe i should just end this thread because i guess no one has really encountered this situation before, outside of stephen and the crazy truck story.
I would just like to thank everyone for sharing and thanks for being supportive.
jon
you could probably make a case for reckless endangerment. Assault would be a stretch, and any type of aggrivated assault just doesn't fit the facts you described.
if you really wanted to, you could probably apply for a protective order (not sure if that's what they're called out in CA) against the guy, since he threatened you. That would give you a recourse if he did anything similar in the future.
good luck with your carbs!
Quote from: JamesGThen its a good thing you don't own a TL1000 (or any other big twin) with Yosh pipes.
A buddy of mine used to have one, and when he'd come over I would swear my house was being buzzed by a Huey!
I got a Ducati Monster 750 with D&D Pipes on it.. it ROARS.. :) I can't imagine the wife's GS500 making anywhere near that noise even with a V&H exhaust.
Screw the neighbors! They all ride their harleys up and down the road with straight pipes on them.
Oops.. double post.
sandiego ehhh? if he is military, his body is automaticly assumed to be a deadly weapon no matter what. by knowingly stepping out in front of you he displayed a intent to do bodily harm. hey man go get a lawer, and see if you can press charges.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathI usually just down shift... and dont brake... and I try to aim for the crotch... just dont get target fixated and follow him into his driveway... when he gets wind of it and tries to get away... then go to him and say what you think... When cages cut me off turning left from a driveway or side street... I aim for the driver... and down shift and honk. Usually they get away... and an accident is avoided... I am not just going down only to have them go OK well he fell all by himself... and continue on their way. easier for me to do it on the eli... usually people dont want to get run over/hit by a 600 lb bike, that looks like its all steel.
Cool.
Srinath.
Alright Srinath! :thumb: This was a long read, but finally worth it. You realized that a normal sized human being comprised of soft flesh and breakable bones is no match for a 380lb chunk of metal + rider hurtling down the road. In a game of chicken they will suffer the greater harm in a collision. :cheers: There's no way a human standing in the path of a motocycle is "attempted murder" it's more like attempted SUICIDE.
As for rude neighbors, I had a neighbor from hell that lived up a hill from me. He was a party animal and had thus lost his drivers license. He'd get drunk and curse the neighborhood occasionally. Twice he started up his backyard hotrod, loudly cranking it up and doing burnouts in his dirt backyard clouding all the houses below in dust. The second time he did it I called the police. I didn't go talk to him nicely or otherwise. His second time was his last time. He moved the next year. Problem solved. :cheers:
I wouldn't expect people to put up my racing up and down my street on a loud bike. I've always ridden my loud bikes and quads as quietly as possible in my neighborhood and never had a complaint(or anyone try to commit suicide jumping in my path). If you were to take the guy to court, you would be in trouble for sure. He might be.
However, if you want to break his habit of standing in front of you, take him out with the bike. Just brace for the impact, slow down a little if you're scared, and have a good story planned for the police. You're the one wearing protective gear and you've got weight and inertia on your side. :cheers:
It's not like i do this regularily, and it's not like i've had this exhaust on the bike more than about a week. I've only ridden up and down the street a few times with the exhaust under any kind of load.
Hm,i think the guy might actually BE military. I'll check into it. What i'm more afriad of next time is him coming out with a b-ball bat and taking a swing at me while i ride by.
i wonder if i can get one of those retraining thingies.
anyways, what proof would HE have of me speeding? He could have jumped out in frnot of me while i was doing 15mph and i still would have almost lost control. Remember the MSF course where they make you lock up your rear tire under 15mph??? Same thing applies here.
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Alright Srinath! :thumb: This was a long read, but finally worth it. You realized that a normal sized human being comprised of soft flesh and breakable bones is no match for a 380lb chunk of metal + rider hurtling down the road. In a game of chicken they will suffer the greater harm in a collision. :cheers: There's no way a human standing in the path of a motocycle is "attempted murder" it's more like attempted SUICIDE.
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Its attempted somehitng... murder if he's trying and succeding to induce panic... Lets call it attempted creation of panic... a experienced... in this situation ... rider wont panic and turn it into a game of chicken... Now The GS and rider is enough to out weigh and out kinetic energy a person... but the fact that the rider is so close to the front of the vehicle... Less than arms length from the front wheel... means you make contact soon... On a eli... you are a good 4 feet back... make contact and you'll not even scratch your self... Its the falling that would hurt... Also looking intimidating is more vital, and looking like its made of metal is pretty intimidating. Brighly colored parts people think its plastic.
Cool.
Srinath.
If all of that were to happen up here in Canada, the conversation might have gone something like this:
"Oh excuse me sir!"
"Yes, is there something I can do for you?"
"I hate to be a bother but your driving is a little loud and keeping my daughter up."
"Oh really? I'm so sorry, I didn't even think of that when I revved my engine so loudly."
"No, no, it's quite alright. I'M sorry for disturbing your motorcycle commute."
"Don't worry about it at all, I really am sorry about all of this though."
"Thanks for your understanding."
"Thank YOU for letting me know I was being too loud."
"Anytime. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon"
"Yes, thank you, have a good day, sir. I hope your daughter can sleep now."
"Good bye."
"Thanks again and it was nice meeting you."
:lol:
Quote from: proudlomIf all of that were to happen up here in Canada, the conversation might have gone something like this:
"Oh excuse me sir!"
"Yes, is there something I can do for you?"
"I hate to be a bother but your driving is a little loud and keeping my daughter up."
"Oh really? I'm so sorry, I didn't even think of that when I revved my engine so loudly."
"No, no, it's quite alright. I'M sorry for disturbing your motorcycle commute."
"Don't worry about it at all, I really am sorry about all of this though."
"Thanks for your understanding."
"Thank YOU for letting me know I was being too loud."
"Anytime. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon"
"Yes, thank you, have a good day, sir. I hope your daughter can sleep now."
"Good bye."
"Thanks again and it was nice meeting you."
:lol:
...all followed by "Now let's go smoke a big fat one and put all this behind us!" :roll:
damn cannuks ;)
Damn, i'm moving there.
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11224
I rest my case as far as animal versus bike/rider goes. This was bear vs Harley, but man vs GS500 would likely come out the same. Bear and man would be DOA or close to it. Even clipping them with the bar, you might go down, they are busted up for sure.
Quote from: mercdude63Damn, i'm moving there.
Ditto that!
Quotebut i'd say more like bond with me over a shitty situation that almost got me seriously hurt just like every other thread on here does when it says "almost crashed today."
bad situation, yes, but one that could have been prevented. this is one of those times that was a poor choice at a poor time, in poor location. everyone speeds, everyone tests and tunes. and given different backdrop, (non-residential area) you might have 100% backing you, with tourches and pitch forks. this goes if you had HIT and HIM BEING A WEAPON THEORY
did he just pop out of a blind spot? proves to a traffic inspector that you were going too fast (yes he will know from the scrapes) to deal with a typical emergency stop/avoidance or
did you see him from a distance? then it would be enough for the judge to see you reconized the person as a potential threat but didnt act on it to avoid the idiot acting as a catchall. this would prove to me you had no regaurd for life being the judge, i would also slap the pedestrians ass about abit too, J-walking, obstructing the flow of traffic, ect.
i have been in Mr. A$$Hats position, was i right? NO but i do see his point, just like i see yours, but haveing been on the wrong side of the court bench during my early years of riding has shown me how "They"
think and interprate the rules. Sadly, its their way that counts.
On a highway and someone is playing chicken with you. YES they are useing a weapon
Riding your ass, YES, Playing tag, YES, tossing things out of window YES, letting your dog run out to intercept a biker coming down the street, YES *but only if not speeding and can avoid reasonably* but i would also push for leash law infraction in that case siteing endangerment.
I get alittle crazy when i ride, but i am very picky about where as i got tired of points on my license and paying fines. Plz dont see my posts as coming down on you, i was you at one time. im hoping to show you so you dont go through what i did, No one should know the clerk of the courts traffic divisions address or tellers by heart. for some time, i knew that info better then the cops writing the tickets. above all, the loss of life, yours,thiers isnt worth it. chalk this up in lessons learned and go on my friend.
QuoteIf all of that were to happen up here in Canada, the conversation might have gone something like this:
-snip-
Sure, the conversation
might have gone something like that. Or, your disturbed neighbor
might have
clotheslined you with a hockey stick for racing up and down the street. :P
That's not to say that Canada isn't a great place to be, it's just that great Canadians like Wayne Gretzky and Miguel DuHamel often choose to live in the United States. ;)
Quote from: GisserThat's not to say that Canada isn't a great place to be, it's just that great Canadians like Wayne Gretzky and Miguel DuHamel often choose to live in the United States. ;)
Correction: Rich and famous Canadians like to live in the States :thumb:
Ok, final update to this horrid story.
So this whole thing has been eating me up for a few days... i mean, the thought that someone was delibrately trying to kill me really bothers the hell out of me.
I couldn't take it any longer. I stopped by his house after work in my business attire to show him i'm not a punk. I knocked on the door, and his wife??? answered the door and told me the guy wasn't there. I was like "TELL HIM TO COME TALK TO ME I'm AT SUCH AND SUCH ADDRESS"
The guy shows up about 3hrs later when i'm struggling to get my carbs to work right (which i figured out and will tell everyone who wants to use DJ's jet kit). We chit chat... I got a good look at this guy and he's some, i'm assuming, special forces military guy or something. He and i reconsiled our differences by this kind of conversation:
"My name is jon" "Jason" "ok jason, i don't want to be an @$$hole, so i don't want to piss anyone off... but i was going up and down the street trying to get my carbs to work on my bike" "there's no reason you should have been going that fast" "i wasn't going that fast... like 40-45mph" "we measured 60' of skid marks" "really, so??? the point is, you should have come over and talked to me! You don't need to endanger my life just to get your point. I would have gotten it just as well if you had come talk to me" "i didn't know who you were" "you saw me turn in here didn't you???" .... "well we both could have acted differently that night" "You're right, i was going too fast, but dude, there's no reason for you to almost kill me over it. In fact, if you had done anything and i'd have crashed, you'd be held responsible. I'd be in the hospital and you'd be in jail. if you're a father you should think about those sorts of things." "i can handle my shaZam!, i knew what i was doing when i was out there" "Oh ok dude, but the point is IF that happened you'd be accountable" "I just snapped and in an instant i did that. My intention was not to have you crashed, i just wanted to curse you out... i just walked out from behind my truck" "yeah dude! YOUR TRUCK! I couldn't see you!" "yeah i feel bad cause my roomate (also with a zx6) does stupid shaZam! like that too and i yell at him too!!!"
anyways, i could go on and on but basically we came to the conclusion that he's 1. slightly psycho 2. we can get along 3. he understands where im' coming from and vica versa. 4. there's no hard feelings... we shook on it and i told him to come back anytime and we'd have a beer together.
That's the update, thanks for letting me cool off here and getting some diverse opinions... i STILL think i'm the bigger/more mature man.
Merc, you have just helped man-kind get a little bit closer to civility. That took a lot of courage to swallow your pride and at least try to talk first. One reason I say this is that when I was younger I was won't to fly off the handle at times over similar situations and the ensuing violence was quite ugly (in more ways than one). In retrospect there are many instances where I could have handled things differently and no-one would have been hurt. My hats off to you and have a beer on us :cheers: . (so I hope you have slowed down around the neighborhood 8) ) Wishin' I could ride the little baby GS and wishin' all in the forum a beautiful week-end.
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okay, i'll bite.
tried to kill you... dude. he stepped out in front of a heavy ass machine doing 40-45 mph. and you're hollering about attempted murder. handled it the wrong way, yes. but if he would have held a hand up, or yelled as you passed, would he have gotten your attention?
i'm on your side for the most part for this. i don't know what the speed limit is on your street, but if it's 25, like it is mine, 40-45 is beyond excessive. I rarely go above 30 on my street, and i feel guilty when i do it. It's where people live. The road is only there so that people can get from their houses, to the real road. I can sympathize with him big time. when i was about 5, my 3 year old sister was super ass close to getting hit by some kid hauling balls down our street. i remember it so well.
i dunno, i'm at work and about to leave, so i'll wrap it up. he used excessive methods of getting your attention, but his point was very valid. that's my summary.
Quote from: mercdude63... i STILL think i'm the bigger/more mature man.
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that took lot's of nerve! very cool ! now next time something like that happens to me, cuz' it will, i'm going to have to suck it up and do what you did. cheers!!! :mrgreen:
i'll be sure to post it too, so you an point and hollar at me. :P
:dunno: Maybe teach kids not to run in the street??? No one can stop ALL the crazy people... because guess what,
WE ALL ARE THE CRAZY DRIVERS/RIDERS! :nono:
we all run late, speed, etc. Don't be high-and-mighty.
Just because i did it that time, doesn't mean someone with a bigger vehicle (AKA: a car which 99.8% of people drive and aren't nearly as manueverable or able to stop) won't do it again... LIKE THEY ROUTINELY DO ON EVERYONE'S STREET!!!
So get off me. :nana: THE END.
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oh ya, stupid f%$king 3 year old kid. she shoulda known better than to take those 2 steps off our lawn into the culdasac, with a grand total of 7 houses in the neighborhood. i didn't know it was a drag strip. i'm not on your case at all. seriously. read it subjectivly. but for oyu to think you're at 0 fault and he's at all fault is ludicrious in my opinion. don't be mad at me. like i said in my last post, i'm on your side in it all. i just don't like how you're assuming such a small responsibility. and you're damn right i speed. i go 75 on a 55 to work all the time. but i don't go 20 over on a 25mph road. i keep up with the flow of traffic. i'd love to see a neighborhood where the flow is 40-45mph. the last thing i'm doing is acting high and mighty. the first thing i'm doing is trying to show you where the guy is coming from.
Dude, i totally agree... i was speeding... like i've said many times. Yes, that was my fault, and that's why i made the effort to talk to him without beating his head in.
Oh, to address the statement before... i DO consider it attempted homicide... why? Because all he had to do was hit me with his elbow or closeline me and i'd be down... or out of control and i'd be: ???????
But yes, children should be taught not to cross/go into the street: they do know the difference.
I mean, at what point do you have to accept that a child/person/animal has control on his/her actions? Maybe it's natural selection :dunno:
that's how i grew up. maybe i'm weird, OR maybe i grew up in a place that had unknown people come down the street at varying speeds at irregular times of the day with differing vehicles.........................
like every neighborhood.
But seriously tho, i'm done with this thread. i just think it's fun to keep reading people's comments.