Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Juanfer on August 30, 2004, 09:13:02 AM
Post by: Juanfer on August 30, 2004, 09:13:02 AM
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: JohnNS on August 30, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
Post by: JohnNS on August 30, 2004, 05:53:33 PM
Could be something up with the cush drive maybe? Not really sure what could go wrong with that, but seems like you've eliminated most everything else. :dunno:
Title: Re: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: John Bates on August 30, 2004, 06:57:37 PM
Post by: John Bates on August 30, 2004, 06:57:37 PM
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 05:58:27 AM
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 05:58:27 AM
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 09:25:00 AM
Quote from: JuanferDoes anyone know an easy way to dismount chain? it has a join link but i dont know hot to tear it apart.I don't really understand why you want to take the chain off, but since you asked....
The easiest way that I know of is to use regular pliers. Put one of the jaws against ONE half of the split end (to the left of ONE of the RED circles in the photo) and the other jaw against the opposite pin (marked with BLUE). Then SQUEEZE!
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 09:39:47 AM
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 09:39:47 AM
Any easy way of cleaning the chain without dismounting it? is it effective to do it with the chain on?
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 10:10:36 AM
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 10:10:36 AM
Now that you mention it, if you have a clip-style master link in your chain you probably SHOULD remove the chain to clean it. I just "cleaned" mine 3 days ago (on the bike) with WD-40 and a half dozen paper towels, and you can see what a good job I did :roll: It looked great on Saturday, but the picture above was taken an hour ago. :x
I could have done a better job with kerosene and a toothbrush, but the first time I did that I ended up with a kerosene-and-lube-speckled shirt that I can't wear for anything else.
Possibly the best option short of installing a Scottoiler is to use The Grunge Brush (http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11188-085_FINGB2-2-Accessories-26-Cleaners-and-Lubricants/Finish-Line-Grunge-Brush-offerIN040BR1.htm!!b_id=17) or a homemade equivalent. Our member EDub Built a Chain Scrubber (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10958) from inexpensive materials, but he never got around to posting photos.
One more tip: If you happen to have your original chain hanging around, hook it onto one of the pins that are freed up after you remove the master link clip and sideplate. Thread the old chain onto the sprockets as you pull the current chain off. When you're done you can then thread the clean chain back on in the same way -- all without removing the left-side sprocket cover! :thumb:
I could have done a better job with kerosene and a toothbrush, but the first time I did that I ended up with a kerosene-and-lube-speckled shirt that I can't wear for anything else.
Possibly the best option short of installing a Scottoiler is to use The Grunge Brush (http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/11188-085_FINGB2-2-Accessories-26-Cleaners-and-Lubricants/Finish-Line-Grunge-Brush-offerIN040BR1.htm!!b_id=17) or a homemade equivalent. Our member EDub Built a Chain Scrubber (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10958) from inexpensive materials, but he never got around to posting photos.
One more tip: If you happen to have your original chain hanging around, hook it onto one of the pins that are freed up after you remove the master link clip and sideplate. Thread the old chain onto the sprockets as you pull the current chain off. When you're done you can then thread the clean chain back on in the same way -- all without removing the left-side sprocket cover! :thumb:
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 11:37:25 AM
Post by: Juanfer on August 31, 2004, 11:37:25 AM
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 12:06:19 PM
Post by: Kerry on August 31, 2004, 12:06:19 PM
Cool. Let me know if I need to revise my clip-removal description above.
(It occurs to me that it might be best to put one of the pliers jaws in between the two red dots, so as to spread the split end while pushing it to the right. Or maybe spread the split end with a thin screwdriver blade while you apply the pliers as I originally described. Or .... :dunno: )
(It occurs to me that it might be best to put one of the pliers jaws in between the two red dots, so as to spread the split end while pushing it to the right. Or maybe spread the split end with a thin screwdriver blade while you apply the pliers as I originally described. Or .... :dunno: )
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Lars on September 01, 2004, 02:32:32 PM
Post by: Lars on September 01, 2004, 02:32:32 PM
Yeah... and you can also try to put a flat screwdriver in between and turn it a bit so the clip opens a bit. Remember that you can destroy the clip when removing it, because you should fit a new one anyway when refitting the chain.
BTWm best thing is to replace it with a masterlink without a clip. I used one of those clip-type masterlinks and after 10000 km's that link broke in half. It's weaker than a normal link. That was a Regina chain. DID is probably better but I wouldn't take chances.
BTWm best thing is to replace it with a masterlink without a clip. I used one of those clip-type masterlinks and after 10000 km's that link broke in half. It's weaker than a normal link. That was a Regina chain. DID is probably better but I wouldn't take chances.
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: davipu on September 01, 2004, 02:40:05 PM
Post by: davipu on September 01, 2004, 02:40:05 PM
I had a odd noise with about the same symptoms as your describing, the culprit was the centerstand was hitting the chain. with the cut off pipes the rubber stop that is on the bottom of the exaust was goneand is was allowing the centerstand to come up about another 1/4" than it should of. if the rubber stop was missing or worn really bad it could allow this to happen even with the chain in spec.
Title: Clac, clac on the rear zone...going crazy.
Post by: Juanfer on September 02, 2004, 05:37:21 AM
Post by: Juanfer on September 02, 2004, 05:37:21 AM
Well, the job was done. Took off the chain (easy thanks to Kerry), and began to clean link by link....some of the where stuck or really hard to move, maybe 3 or 4 of them, especially the join link.
After i cleaned the chain I reinstalled and thank God the Clac was gone! what a smooth ride..... :thumb: :thumb:
The toothbrush did a good job, also the kerosene.
It helps to untight the chain when doing all this.
Men, I love this forum. thank you guys.
I installed the same clip. should I install a new one?
After i cleaned the chain I reinstalled and thank God the Clac was gone! what a smooth ride..... :thumb: :thumb:
The toothbrush did a good job, also the kerosene.
It helps to untight the chain when doing all this.
Men, I love this forum. thank you guys.
I installed the same clip. should I install a new one?