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Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on September 20, 2004, 09:00:13 PM
I have searched on this, but I wasn't able to find anything so here it goes....

Has anyone ever seen or installed one of these integrator kits?

http://www.flashalert.com/integrator.htm

My only concern would be the visibility, but I don't think that it should be much worse than mounting the light directly on the side or under the brake light on the fender.  

Also, unlike the cheap knock-offs, this kit is supposed to actually flash the light when turning and not just cause it to dim.

What do you think?

Chris
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on September 21, 2004, 05:32:56 PM
No experience, huh?  Maybe I will order one and give it a shot then.

Chris
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: Phaedrus on August 06, 2005, 09:31:56 PM
I had wondered about it as well:

http://www.exoticsportbike.com/integrator_kit.htm

Did anyone ever do this? It would be a nice way to really clean up the rear of the bike, thats for sure. I just know I'd frog it up somehow though.  :roll:
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: blue05twin on August 06, 2005, 10:18:08 PM
There is also this one I was thinking of getting it not sure atm.
http://www.shopserv3.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA&Category_Code=GS500
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: fretbuzz on August 06, 2005, 11:22:46 PM
I have the led integrator  and they`re awesome much brighter than stock!
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: rritterson on August 06, 2005, 11:29:28 PM
why is it so expensive? I guess because all of the parts are custom fabbed to fit perfectly.

I'm sure someone with electrical experience could design one. All you are doing is combining the brake light circuit with the turn signal circuit.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on August 07, 2005, 08:16:29 PM
Quote from: PhaedrusI had wondered about it as well:

http://www.exoticsportbike.com/integrator_kit.htm

Did anyone ever do this? It would be a nice way to really clean up the rear of the bike, thats for sure. I just know I'd frog it up somehow though.  :roll:

That is the same product I bought, just bought it directly from the company who makes it.  

It is a great product, easy to install and works really well.

Plus it provides the extra visability that I was looking for.

Chris
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: GT Eye on August 07, 2005, 08:20:00 PM
Is there a writeup on an installation anywhere?
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: Phaedrus on August 07, 2005, 08:28:43 PM
Yeah a write up or some pics? Something to help those of us that know close to nothing, like me?  :mrgreen:
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on August 07, 2005, 08:39:04 PM
I can snap some pictures tomorrow of the installed product but the installation is pretty straight forward.  If I remember correctly you only have to cut two wires, the positive to the left brake light and a posititve to the right brake light.  The integrator is wired in series w/ those wires and that gives it the ability to control how it flashes.

There are some vampire taps that you use to connect the integrator to the turn signal lamp wires to be used as "source" to tell the integrator when to flash the tail lamps.

In all it is probaby a 30 minute installation.

Chris
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on August 07, 2005, 08:42:34 PM
BTW>  Here is the website for the manufacturer...

http://www.flashalert.com/integrator.htm
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: EazyAsOne23 on August 07, 2005, 09:11:25 PM
yeah i installed one like 3-4 months ago, and wrote a how to
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: Phaedrus on August 08, 2005, 06:19:42 AM
So, where is it? :)
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: skoozi12 on August 08, 2005, 09:00:34 AM
here:

http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16838&highlight=
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: dgyver on August 08, 2005, 10:12:24 AM
Why spend 4x the cost of a trailer wiring converter that does the same thing?

The only issue you may have is the signal will flash faster when the brakes are applied. This is due to a change in resistance to the stock flasher relay. This can be fixed with a couple of resistors or change the flasher to an electronic unit.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on August 08, 2005, 11:59:17 AM
Does the relay cause the brake lights to flash when braking as well?  This is one of the reasons I wanted the kit, so that the brake lights would flash together when braking.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: dgyver on August 08, 2005, 12:15:00 PM
No. Flashing brake lights are annoying and confusing to the driver behind you, they do not know what you are doing. They are illegal in some states.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: Phaedrus on August 08, 2005, 12:22:04 PM
I was behind a Goldwing that had a kit liek that installed. Whenever he would break, the lights would flash. The first couple times I was like "hm..what the.." but then it was actually kinda neat since it was a foggy morning, it did increase his visibility. I dunno if I'd want mine to do that though.  :dunno:

I do want to see how the kit looks on the GS500 ('F' in particular). I think it would look good!
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: 1998_GS500 on August 08, 2005, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: PhaedrusI was behind a Goldwing that had a kit liek that installed. Whenever he would break, the lights would flash. The first couple times I was like "hm..what the.." but then it was actually kinda neat since it was a foggy morning, it did increase his visibility. I dunno if I'd want mine to do that though.  :dunno:

I do want to see how the kit looks on the GS500 ('F' in particular). I think it would look good!

Exactly. I am all for just about anything within reason to decrease the chances of being hit by a car.

Since it is annoying I bet that you don't bother flashing your brakes when it looks like a car is approaching too quickly from behind, then do you.

Chris
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: dgyver on August 09, 2005, 04:18:13 PM
You better make sure both bulbs have the bright filament fully functional every time you ride. If one of them is burned out, when you hit your brakes it will look like you have your turn signal on.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: aaronstj on August 09, 2005, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: dgyverNo. Flashing brake lights are annoying and confusing to the driver behind you, they do not know what you are doing. They are illegal in some states.
Another viewpoint:  I've driven behind a couple of bikes (and cars, even) with flashing brake lights, and I wasn't confused at all.  They get your attentions and make it quite clear that the bike was stopping.  I think most of the flashing brake lights I've seen flash a couple of times (to get your attention) and then go on steady.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: dgyver on August 09, 2005, 07:53:24 PM
I could see that the ones that flash a 1-2 times before going solid to could be beneficial.

The thing that eveyone need to realize that the driver behind you has to make a quick decision on what to do. If they see something that is out of the ordinary, the time it takes them to process the information may be too late. Also they are probably distracted as well....cell phone, kids, etc.
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: aaronstj on August 09, 2005, 08:37:46 PM
Quote from: dgyverThe thing that eveyone need to realize that the driver behind you has to make a quick decision on what to do. If they see something that is out of the ordinary, the time it takes them to process the information may be too late.
If a driver sees something confusing, the first thing he or she should do, of course, is slow down.  Of course, if drivers did what they were supossed to do, I guess we wouldn't be having this conversation. :)
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: Phaedrus on August 09, 2005, 09:39:02 PM
Dgyver - Don't listen to him, what does he know? He is just a nood.  :lol:
Title: Anyone ever installed an integrator kit?
Post by: rclz on August 11, 2005, 01:29:09 AM
http://www.shopserv3.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=CA&Category_Code=GS500

the home site is www.clearalternatives.com
they have led tailights and intergrators for 89-00 and the F's