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Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: slotcar on September 28, 2004, 03:02:16 AM
My owners manual says I have a 4.5gal tank on the '96 GS500E. In the first three weeks I have owned the bike I have been averaging about 58-60mpg when I fill the tank to just about 1/4" above the filler neck rim. The reserve seems to need to be switched on at about 170 miles which would seem to mean that there is still 1.25 or 1.5 gal left when I switch to reserve. Does this sound right?
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Rema1000 on September 28, 2004, 05:43:57 AM
That's right.  You'll get down to between 0.25 and 0.5 gallons left, before you need to switch to PRIme.  Then it starts to kill at stopsigns; or kill when you twist the throttle too quickly, etc.  For about the last 0.1 gallons, you may have to stop every 1/4 mile and tilt the bike to the left, to try to get what little is in the tank to the carburetor float bowls.

My record is adding 4.52 gallons to a '92 (same size as your '96), but by then I was limited to riding slowly on the shoulder, and coasting whenever the engine killed.

I'd say that if you want to be able to ride smoothly in traffic, then don't plan on using the last 0.5 gallon.

EDIT: also, to get the tank completely full, you need to help the air bubbles escape when filling.  Usually if you wait 10 seconds, the fuel level in the tank neck will drop.  You can speed it up if you wiggle the handlebars or jiggle the bike a little.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: johncam4 on September 28, 2004, 08:33:21 AM
can some one post a pic of the valve on RESERVE and then ON...im still so confused by that valve
:(
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Kerry on September 28, 2004, 10:04:37 AM
In the "diagrams" below, the petcock positions from left to right are:1989-2000
         1                   2                   3

        PRI                 PRI                 PRI
                                                 ^
                                                 |
  RES    |            RES <---            RES    |
         |
         v
        ON                  ON                  ON





2001+
         1                   2                   3

        RES                 RES                 RES      
                             ^                              
                             |                              
         |    PRI            |    PRI            ---> PRI
         |                                                  
         v                                                  
        ON                  ON                  ON
     
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: dufoes on September 28, 2004, 11:33:40 AM
I have a gas question as well - hopefully someone can answer. I recently bought a new GS500F. I filled it up with a full tank of gas, and it just died on me (I presume from lack of gas in the main tank because it will work on reserve) and I've only gone 128 miles on this tank. This doesn't seem normal to me at all. I thought I would be getting amazing gas milage, such as 50-60 MPG as REMA stated. Anybody know what's going on?
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Kerry on September 28, 2004, 12:32:48 PM
Quote from: dufoesAnybody know what's going on?
Tell us more:
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: dufoes on September 28, 2004, 02:02:35 PM
I filled it with the sidestand (first time filling it up and didn't know any better) up to the neck. I didn't shake the bubbles out, either. The thing that puzzles me is that there appears to be about a half of tank left when I look in.

By the way, if you have any filling suggestions please let me know.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Kerry on September 28, 2004, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: dufoesI filled it with the sidestand (first time filling it up and didn't know any better) up to the neck. I didn't shake the bubbles out, either.
Gotcha.


Quote from: dufoesThe thing that puzzles me is that there appears to be about a half of tank left when I look in.
If you can see the "hump" like in the picture below, the fuel level is significantly lower than you think.  (Been there, done that!)



Check your level periodically until it looks about  like the picture.  Fill the tank and see how many gallons it took.  That will be good info to have for future situations.


Quote from: dufoesBy the way, if you have any filling suggestions please let me know.
I never get off the bike when I fill up.  (Some folks disagree with this method, but it's worked for me for 32,000+ miles so far.  :dunno:  To each his own!)

If the engine is hot I fold the lower flap underneath the bag so it doesn't touch the cylinder cooling fins.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: dufoes on September 28, 2004, 04:16:19 PM
Thank you very much for your help Kerry. I just went and filled it up - it took 3.496 gallons of gas, so I averaged 37.76 miles per gallon (if  I filled it up to about the same point). Is this good? Normal? Bad?

Thanks again for your help.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: johncam4 on September 28, 2004, 04:18:44 PM
whats prime for
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Kerry on September 28, 2004, 04:31:18 PM
Quote from: dufoesit took 3.496 gallons of gas, so I averaged 37.76 miles. [...] Is this good? Normal? Bad?
38 mpg is NOT good.

But which figures did you use?  170 miles and 3.496 gallons?  Because that would come out to 48.6 mpg, which is acceptable but not quite wonderful.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: dufoes on September 28, 2004, 04:41:18 PM
My trip meter read 132 miles (since last fill-up). 132/3.496 = 37.7574.

Does gas milage depend on how you ride? I'm 205 lbs and I like to gun it. In addition, I ride my bike a lot around campus, which is sort of hilly.

Of course, the 37.7574 mpg is dependent upon whether I filled it up to the same level as I did last time, but I don't think I could be too off. This time I also took your suggestion by filling it up while on it and shaking it around slightly so the air bubbles would escape.
Title: Gas Reserve
Post by: Kerry on September 28, 2004, 04:50:05 PM
Sorry - I guess I mixed your numbers together with slotcar's....  :oops:

You'll probably have to "go around one more time" before you get a definitive answer on your mileage.  I recently related how my brother came out for a visit, borrowed my bike for the day, and came back with a gas receipt and a trip meter number.  According to the data, the bike had gotten 75 mpg while he rode it!

It took me a while to figure out that he didn't fill the tank FULL like I do.  (Whew!)  So, you could be having the opposite calculation problem.

If your bike is running well it should get 50 to 55 easy.  But gunning it a lot could drop that figure a bit.