OK pics of the exhaust kit is here
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/seshadrisrinath/album?.dir=/878b&.src=ph&.tok=phS.e5BBcUk1tpBz
It will be a slip on fit... no welding needed... just cut with dremel and fit it on... And $125 for carbon fiber can ... The bad news... only 3 left... OK OK I only had 4 to start with... and I will probably make more but I would like to get pre orders... sorta ... Pay and wait a few days, due to the fact I have to make up the parts after getting the exhaust can. The can is new, and very good quality, as is the round plate... and neither one is really all that light... everything is heavy duty... all stainless can, and my adapter plate is steel but its very thick, and will fit a GS like a charm...
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Don't you have to weld on the adapter plate? :dunno:
Look good, but how does it sound???? :dunno: :thumb: :nono: ?????
When I am done with it... no :guns: welding...
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Whoa, niiiiiice!
Maybe when my PI settlement comes in...
is that real carbon fiber my freind has one you can touch it evenwhen the bike has been running a while. anyway we can hear it or can you compare it to another pipe
I just fitted the first one on a local GS... The pipe is deep sounding and it is very non tinny... Very Brrrrrruuuub Brrrrrrrubbbbbbbb... missing is that under lying trrrrrrounnnn trrrrrounnnn... I will let the new owner comment on it...
Also The carbon I know the kind that doesn't get as hot as fast... I believe this will stay cooler longer than metal... No real evidence of how cool and how long... The reason is... I believe the pipe has a metal outer wall... the carbon is on top of that just for looks... The damn can looks like it will survive a tank rolling on top of it....
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Nice.
What about rejetting and all?
Yea you would need to rejet... However with this set up you can add a choker like a large diamater washer... You'll have to see it instead of me explaining it ... pics comming soon... that will cut flow... so you can get away without a rejet... and when you do rejet... simply remove the choker ....
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OK new flange pics are here... true slip on now... Slice the can off with a dremel and then fit the flange... mark the inside pipe where it should be cut, cut that and fit the can and flange and clamp on the can... 10 mins with a dremel tool, and maybe 5 mins checking and fiddling... Also I can provide a removable restrictor if anyone wants...
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Since you have a limited quantity, perhaps you can post dimensions for the adapter plate. If we know the bolt pattern and location of the hole relative to the center of the circle and the bolt holes, we can make them for ourself. Also, what bike is that can supposed to go on? I'm sure one of our members could do a cad drawing and post it as a jpeg. I could do it but my software crashed on me so I still need to reinstall it.
Of course if you have plans to make more, then I suppose there's no need for the dimensions :)
It looks good by the way :thumb:
oh that looks nice
Its limited to the number of cans I can score at the cheapo $$$ I have been buying... The plate itself is not the Issue... plenty more where that came from. Dimensions and hole locations are sorta dependent on the can... I have GSXR 600, CBR900RR or YZF 1000 cans.
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The adapter plate will be painted with high heat paint before it leaves the welders... cos it rusts very very rapidly. The kit is all inclusive... countersunk bolts, gaskets, clamps and rubber cushion under the clamp... all in the package. Literally 20 min to slap it on, and if you want a choked one so you can run it without rejet... tell me and I'll modify it before sending it out.
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Quote from: seshadri_srinathAlso The carbon I know the kind that doesn't get as hot as fast... I believe this will stay cooler longer than metal... No real evidence of how cool and how long... The reason is... I believe the pipe has a metal outer wall... the carbon is on top of that just for looks... The damn can looks like it will survive a tank rolling on top of it....
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With a carbon fiber can there is not a metal sleeve under the carbon sleeve. Just the carbon outer sleeve and stainless steel inner metal baffle seperated by the fiberglass packing along with the aluminum end caps. Heat is not a problem. You can put you hands on the carbon at most any time after riding, just do not touch any metal. The CF is fairly tough, but does not fair too well when damaged. It is repairable though. I have pics on one my Yosh cans (from my TLR) taken apart and repaired if anyone want to see.
Aaah... OK... the thing was so heavy I thought it was double walled... BTW Its just under 1/2 the weight of the stocker... so I guess its not that heavy after all... But The other cans, all aluminum ones like the cobra weigh nothing... but I guess they are real thin wall and aluminum so cant compare to thick stainless steel... like I said... Survive a tank rolling over it.
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Also available in titanium since that seems to be flavor of the month... once again I dont think these are going to be around too long... because many places have started closing them out and the good stuff is vanishing fast.
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Is the titanium can the same price as the carbon? Any pics?
Yea Titanium = carbon for $$$ and pics ... damn, you guys want pics for everything... I'll put one up tommorow :lol: . Ironically they weigh nearly the same and probably sound similar (Not heard the titanium) with a bit of metallic hint in the Ti. Just guessing.
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Quote from: vegasda9When is the aftermarket FINALLY going to make parts for the F model???
Yea my pipes wont fit the :guns: F ...
Not without welding anyway.
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http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/seshadrisrinath/album?.dir=878b&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos
Old link, new pics... one with the flange on the can... so you can see the flow area... and not much restriction in spite of the offset, and of course the titanium can and carbon fiber can side by side. Weight... OK the damn cans have big variations in weight... and worse... the variations are sorta designed in... like the heavy cans I have even though they look identical to the lighter ones, the hangers etc are made much more heavy duty like they designed it that way ... and BTW I have reversed course on the weight thing... that 1 set I have is almost 70% the stock can's weight... the rest of the cans are under 30%... carbon cans seem to have a slightly lower weight than the titanium, but both are light. And the carbon fiber is not smooth finish.. you can feel texture in it. Whatever that is called... sorta like the denim used in jeans. Looks nice, and has that slightly different from each angle look I thought. BTW I am keeping the heavy cans, if not for my bike, atleast for slicing open to see what is making it heavy.
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Don't think the link's working. How much(money) are you talking about total, Srinath?
Might have had many people click the link and there is a daily limit ... anyway try it in a bit or somehting.
The total is $125 - It includes a slipper flange that slides on to a 89-00 header pipe, a carbon fiber or titanium can and a set of bolts and gaskets and a hanger and the cushion gasket ... All you do is... cut the stock can off right as it begins to flare, then slip the flange on, mark the inner pipe (under the flare the header pipe continues) and cut it there. Then bolt the can to the flange with the gaket in the middle and slip it on and clamp it to foot peg carrier with the clamp that is included.
You could save a $25 or so by buying the can from a Dennis Kirk ebay buy it now auction ($50 and shipping - 15 ) and the flange is $30. Same bolt on method... and Oh yea... I have a serious piece of technology for the cushion on the clamp which you dont get.... :mrgreen: Inner tube strip :mrgreen: OK fine for $5 I'll include it... Also the Ebay ones are Stainless, mine are carbon fiber or titanium.
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Sounds interesting. i'll have to get the bike first(looking at Charleym3's) and see what shape the can's in. It's a '90 and the can's stock, so i'm not sure if its condition is going to be terrific.
Isn't carbon fiber quieter than the titanium(or the stainless steel)?? Don't want the neighbors complaining about the noise.
Carbon fiber is nice and burbly... titanium, ok not tried it yet, stainless is a bit metallic, aluminum is worse, much more tinny ...
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so is it 125 for the whole exhaust kit?
$125 for the whole kit--at least that's how i understood it.
How do I order? For $125, does that include shipping? Anyway, let me know. I'm interested on getting the carbon fiber one. Thanks.
GS500Rider
$125 is for the can, flange and all the bolts (all 3 of them... :lol: ) and the gaskets, hangers, and the rubber cushion for the hanger. You only need a dremel or other type of saw... like a sawzallor jig saw, and does not include shipping. OK I also will for the first order... swap pipes ... you ship yours to me and I'll send mine along with the header. I need it to make a pictorial for instructions. Mine was recently painted but it has a flange that has been welded on because the guy that I swapped with over the weekend was in a wreck and his can was smashed... so he started to cut it... in the wrong place ... anyway it will work fine, just is a welded fit.
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I visited srinath over the weekend and can attest that these cans/flanges really are top notch. I picked up a carbon fiber and adapter plate for myself but haven't installed it yet..... but just visually the quality is amazing.
Hey thanks... The cans are great but I didn't make them... they were just clearanced by Anysunday racing as blemished... Ok I have been searching for the blemishes ever since ... found none... except those inflicted by UPS :x on the way here... The flanges I thought were thick and heavy duty, cos they were end caps off somehting or other pipe my welder finds somewhere... A little industrial looking but you barely see it... But yes quality is great, which is why I managed to sell 2 sets to people after meeting them at the bike shop... they look really good, and in person its hard to miss that fact. Pics dont really do it justice.
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Jeez, they seem to be selling like hotcakes! Perhaps i could call dibs on a carbon fiber one? :)
Instructions follow... watch this space, everyone that bought one...
Gofer... the exhausts are selling fine, however the larger point is... the things on ebay are going fast... they are the stainless ones but at $65 shipped to your door they are un beatable, my flanges are an anytime thing as long as I can get to my fabrication dude... hence... I would urge every one that might ever buy a slipon... to get one either from ebay or me... cos the entire combo is right about $100 total including shipping and it makes for a great looking fit with a nicely built can even if you get SS or $125 for titanium or carbon.
My stock is down to 2 titanium and 2 carbon... and heck I might keep 1 of each... for the 2 bikes instead of just 1. Anyway you not buy a bike yet gofer...
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Trying to remedy that last bit, Srinath. :)
OK anyone wants to swap a ready bolt one for the stocker... and cash etc... same deal as usual for 125 and shipping, I ship you mine and yousend yours back... while you spend a bit more sending yours ... no nothing needs cut ... just bolt and run and heck much less down time ... I need it to make a pictorial ... whihc BTW is going to be useless in a few more days probably... cos I'll be all out... but still buy off ebay dennis crook scratch and dent and the flanges come in handy.
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Ok I rode the thing today with a Titanium can... and believe it or not... it is rather quiet... only had it to 7K and it quiet for rider... even down low its pretty quiet if standing next to it... and it cannot sound that much like a monster... it ought to be illegal for imitating a monster... BTW I think I put on an italian pipe so its sounding like an italian bike... :lol: ... sweet, carbon was a touch quieter I think... but barely noticeable.
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OK refer to the last 2 pics in that yahoo link...
Step 1 : Fit the flange on the can... The narrow side on the flange should face away from the label... BTW the label can be pried off and re stuck, some labels came loose in shipping :x ... securing the label with super glue or emblem tape or 2 part emblem glue or other means might be prudent. Mark on the flange where the inner side of the can is visible. Take it off and then mark the flange on the side that was contacting the can.
Step 2 : No picture ... but ~ 1/8 inch off the weld where it flares cut the flared part... Be careful not to nick up the header pipe... which continues inside the flarefor a good 2 inches... that should stay intact Starts like a thin scratch and gardually get it deeper... The close you are to the weld obviously the close to the outside pipe the head pipe is. So 1/8 will give you just enough room... but cut it as close as you can ... means less grinding.
Step 3 : Put the bike on center stand... and check the last picture for what you are looking for. The Rubber knocker on the exhaust should hit the right side of little square thing on the center stand... or atleast the center on the little square thing... Bikes that have been dumped on the right have exhausts that have bent in... :x dont ask how I know... So if the pipe is bent in... now that the exhaust can is gone... stick a good length pipe inside the header, and hold the bike with one hand and push the pipe outward to where it should be. Also check by fitting the flange narrow side to the swingarm to make sure there is enough clearance... flange + 1/2 inch is ideal, more is good, down to 1/4 inch is OK.
Step 4 : Then where the marks are on the flange mark the header pipe, and mark down the flat face of the flange... BTW the flat face of flange makes contact with the can, the pipe part of flange faces forward. The header pipe should be cut where the marks are... You are going to cut a pipe into a 1/2 pipe or more like a 3/4 pipe... You know what a 1/2 pipe is right... its like a U, you slice a pipe length wise and you have a 1/2 pipe. OK you'll have a 3/4 pipe on the headers... at this point... but the parts that are covered by the flange will be the whole pipe... and check for the exhaust slipping in on it
Step 5 : Fit the gasket betwen the flange and pipe and bolt it together and slide the whole thing on the headers. Use the rubber inner tube provided as a clamp cushion and clamp it on... Typically I have had the best fit when fitting one lip of the clamp on the front of the footpeg carrier and one lip on the back bacause the exhaust gasket is a bit thick to get a full clamp. BTW Old pair of jeans will work just as well if you dont like that rubber thingy. Titanium cans...well titanium is harder than the stainless that the clamp is made out of... so no need for rubber cushion... just bolt in on ...
OK so how is that ... simple... complicated ... ??? I wish I had pics for the 3/4 pipe etc... Just patience and a dremel tool... It has to be a tight fit, clean up the inner head pipe off any carbon build up and maybe lube it a bit. if its not tight it will leak... I like the 3/4 pipe mainly because I have 1/2 inch overlap on the pipes and vibrations or good bumps might get the head pipe out of the muffler... so the extra length slipped inside will be nice.
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I have installed one of the carbon fiber pipes. I went this route because I wanted the option of switching back and forth with a stock can that has a slipper pipe welded in it. I didn't want one welded on.
Took my complete exhaust off. Went back from weld about 1/8 inch, cut off the stocker can with dremel. Cleaned up were I cut off the stocker can from the header even with the weld just for looks. Put my exhaust back on. Slid the flange up to the weld,made a mark around the header even with the back of the flange. Cut a "C" notch out toward the swing arm side. Now looking at the header from the back it looks like a backward "C". With pics this will be crystal clear. Then I put the flange on the can and tweaked it in toward the tire so the centerline of the rear of the can is around 7-8 inches from the edge of stock size tire. Clamped it on.Done.
Flange is going to work on any can that bolts up with one.
Any questions I had were answered very quickly.
I just got back from a 2 hour ride. Can has a good low thump to it at idle.
Pipe is not as loud as my helmet at cruising speed. I have an HJC AC-11.
Overall improvement from stock can. The bike actually pulls you from the handlebars now when you gap it. It has a stronger midrange for sure. Spools up a lot better. I was impressed with the difference pulling from 4k to 8k rpms. You can actually feel it when you roll on the throttle.
I don't think I'll get many miles from this tank of gas.lol
I don't have a digital camera, but I am working on getting pics to the man.
OK After I send off the one to canada I will have 2 left ... 1 Ti and 1 carbon. I am keeping 1 Ti for myself... :mrgreen: ... The cans let the bike spin up very very quick, and they sound cool, very fat sounding and quite booming like a monster... :mrgreen: Proving once again that you dont need a italian bike... just need an italian pipe ... :lol:
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srinath,
Can I get dibs on the carbon? I'll Pal Pal you as soon as you give me the high sign. dpm@beer.com
Guys, you need to get one of these from Srinath!!!!! I just got back from his house and purchased a carbon one for my '91. Not only does it look awesome, it sounds awesome. It has a deep and mean rumble to it, and gets the bike up and moving in a hurry. I have saved so much money going this route, but have sacrificed nothing. Thanks for everything Srinath!!! I am going to send Srinath the pics, and he can post them for you guys.[/img]
Hi adam,
Thanks for stopping by - nice to meet gstwinnners as always ...
Funny thing ... I meet total strangers and sell them these... in person sold 4... impossible to turn them down ... comparing it to off the shelf can prices at dealers they just about fall off their bikes when I say $125 ready to fit on a GS they just about flip out... From pics and the text etc I have had little progress selling it. Somehow I like the Ti a lot more... Guess I like the metallic under tones...
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OK down to the 2 Ti ones... I am keeping one... though after making a pictorial I should probably sell it considering I am un employed ... and cant afford to have 100's of things lying about ...
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OK Photos added to the yahoo link ... that was how Big orange did it...
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how do i view your yahoo photos?
Srinath,
I'd like to buy one if you still have one.
Laura
Laura : Yes and titanium only... last one ... I want one for myself... broke and un employed as I may be... :x
And Frost : The pics should just be showing up with a click.... or cut and paste the link... should not be much hassle... anyone else have a problem ...
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couple questions about the slip-on....
what keeps it from slipping off?
Quote from: se7enty7couple questions about the slip-on....
what keeps it from slipping off?
Ha ha... you know that... the clamp around the can and to the foot peg, the fact that its a tight fit... like hammer fit, and the extra length of half pipe inside the can...
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hmm... I think that extra set of carbs I have were jetted w/ DJ kit. The needles have a plastic washer on the top of them; and there are like 6 different rings on the top of the needles to put the little circlip on. They also have 134 mains.... so looks like a DJ kit.
Hey Srinath. Looks like a missed the big sale (couldn't scrape up the dough quick enough, LeeAnn went :nono: ). Will you still continue to sell the flanges?
Thanks!
Gavin
Flanges yes... pipes... I have one Ti one which I wanted to keep but I am un employed and probably should sell ... so I guess I have 1 Ti one.
BTW you have a rather small window before dennis crook sells out... so if you dont get those my flange isn't going to do you any good. Si in both alternatives you should buy when its still around. BTW denniscrook is doing a scratch and dent sale... and the ones left are looking worse and worse, mine were scratch and dent as well and no scratches or dents were even visible looking at it ... :mrgreen: The ones they have now... the pics show the defects very obviously.
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how much is it for the flange alone?
what do we need to fit the flange on the slipon?
$30... and shipping. You need to tell me what sorta bolts you going to use so I can counter sink for it ... se7enty7 and bigorange had flared allen heads... I did it with a larger drill ... others had a straight allen head... I skipped countersinking for it... though I will next time with an end mill but only 1/2 of it can be sunk... making for an incomplete counter sink... regular hex ... I wont try to countersink those cos that will prevent a socket from getting on it properly.
BTW its past 1 oclock... I am going to bed...
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can we buy the exhaust and send it to you?...and you put together the thing for us?
Quote from: seshadri_srinathBTW you have a rather small window before dennis crook sells out... so if you dont get those my flange isn't going to do you any good.
*sigh* hope they can last the week.
BTW, I see that he has CBR's, GSXR750's, and YZF still available. Is one of these better than the others?
-Gavin
GSXR or YZF is what I have checked they are the same ... presumably they are all the same, just have different adapter plates ... so one of those 2 should be fine.
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Quote from: Frostcan we buy the exhaust and send it to you?...and you put together the thing for us?
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Quote from: Frostcan we buy the exhaust and send it to you?...and you put together the thing for us?
Well nope ... Buy it and I can make a flange and send it... no need to have the can, I have tooled for it... GSXR and YZF guaranteed to fit, most likely the CBR is the same... so one of these 3 type wileyco cans ... I am able to make flanges wihtout the can...
Sorry didn't see the post you made ... but I replied to it somewhere else cos someone else asked me the same thing.
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Quote from: se7enty7couple questions about the slip-on....
what keeps it from slipping off?
K fine you hell bent on welding it... send me the flange along with the bolts ... I'll send you a more weld friendly flange and bolt set ...
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what does it need to fit the flange onto the slipon?
Flange on to header is some nifty cuts with a dremel ... BTW your bike is 03 ... what is the header dia at the point it enters the can... You may have to weld on the flange ... if its not the 1 and 3/4 inch. I know 04's are 2 inch ... and weld on for them...
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it's the same as the 02...so 2"...
Ok then I'll have to send you a weld on flange ...
I just made a set for someone with an 04 ... lemme know and I'll make it and send ... BTW its $20 for that not the $30 for a slip fit... less work ...
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ok so basically i just have to bolt the flange onto the slipon and then weld it onto my pipes right?
Bolt flange to exhaust can. Then put them in position on the pipes and tack it. Then take off the can and take pipe off the bike and weld it like there's no tommorow... then if you got some weld splatter on the cannister side of the flange grind it up and make it smooth and flat ... its over 1/4 inch thick...so grind it till its perfectly flat and smooth... you got plenty of material... then fit the exhuast can with gasket on. I have one titanium one left BTW... and of course the SS ones from dennis crook.
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