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Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on November 21, 2004, 05:38:28 PM
I discovered something awesome today.....well at least for me its awesome.....  Here's the story:

I went to get my bike inspected, and the guy said that my rear tire had to be changed because it wouldnt pass inspection...So I told him to hold off and that i'd bring it back in a week to get the new tire (why not have some fun with the old tire before getting rid of it right??).  Anyway, I discovered the art of burning out and its awesome!!!!! (my bike probably hates me for it)  I was wondering, however, if its really bad for the front breaks to do that since I hold them down very hard in order to not go forward while the back wheel is burning.  I'd imagine that it would scratch the disc very badly, but im not sure.  But man, i want to get a friend to take pictures of me doing it....there are shards of rubber behind the wheel that it flinged up when I did it, it just stripped the rubber right off the wheel because it got so hot.  It was a rush thats for sure... I did it for almost 2 minutes straight the last time, but now i gotta stop cause the tire will probably bust if i do it anymore :).  

Oh, and you can bet I wont be doing this when I get my new tire...It cost me over $100 plus it'll be $50 to get put on...owch!!  But boy was it fun while it lasted!!!  :)
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Dragonfly on November 21, 2004, 07:05:29 PM
Did you see my recent post http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13622????

The last thing I would be worried about is the front brake.
It is VERY hard on the chain and clutch though. I have found it makes tires go rather quickly.
Have fun and be careful....


Micah
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jusAgs on November 21, 2004, 07:57:27 PM
sooo how'd you do it? the burn out i mean. been trying to do it for awhile :dunno:
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Dragonfly on November 21, 2004, 10:05:43 PM
first start by holding the front brake and rev the motor at the same time. This is the most important part and it takes pratice to make it feel right.
Make sure you hold the front brake FIRMLY!!!!
I have seen a friend try a burn out and have the bike basicly shoot out from under him and slam into a truck on the other side of the parking lot...... not fun. (this was on a MUCH more powerful bike, Zx-6 636)

ok... first plant your feet well and take as much of your weight off the bike as possible. (the Gs has little power so your gonna have to be pretty aggressive) I even like to kinnda "lift the bike" with my legs. This will help the tire loose traction easier.

Rev the motor to about 5k (or what ever it takes), and while firmly holding the front brake. begin to let the clutch out while adding rev's to keep it from boging. You will feel the tire break loose. At this point its all about the RPM's, the more the smokier.

The surface you do it on will affect how easily it goes quite a bit. I have found  the smoother the better. You might even want to try the rear tire on a painted surface till you get the hang of it. or maybe even make a little wet spot to try it on.

Remember, this is VERY hard on chains and clutches, so make sure your chain is well lubed, and try to slip the clutch no more than is necessary.
Also tires start to get expensive real quick!!!
It will also flatten out the profile of the tire, so it will make the bike more difficult to lean into a corner... not much but if you ever go "railing though the twisties" you will notce a difference.


Have fun!!! Be safe!!!!
Micah
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Mat on November 22, 2004, 04:16:20 AM
it helps a lot if you push down on the forks when you release the clutch
Title: rain
Post by: jamesmcb on November 22, 2004, 05:03:05 AM
Oh yea, i forgot to mention it was raining about an hour earlier, so the road was nice and wet!  That helped out a whole lot....and yea, I definately dont recommend it unless your tire is almost bald anyway and your bout to buy a new one.  My old one couldnt pass inspection anyway so i had to get a new one anyway, thats the only reason why I had some fun with it  (The new one was over $100)!  

Next:  Popping wheelies!!  How do you go about doing them?  I know it'll take a lot of practice, but I really want to learn....Is the GS powerful enough to do them?  How do you go about doing them?  How fast are you supposed to be going, how high do you rev it, how fast to release the clutch, etc....anyone have experience with wheelies??
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: red_phil on November 22, 2004, 06:17:59 AM
That sounds, umm, fun.

What's next?
Seeing who can get the loudest clang out of their gas tank by hitting it with a golf club?  :mrgreen:
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on November 22, 2004, 08:32:42 AM
no.....popping wheelies is next.....just as I stated above.....  :)
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on November 22, 2004, 08:37:07 AM
Quote from: jusAgssooo how'd you do it? the burn out i mean. been trying to do it for awhile :dunno:

The first time I did it, I had a friend help me out....he stood in front of the bike and pushed down on the front fork....this helped me get my weight off the back tire....he also had a hand helping hold the brake down....after that first time, I could do it on my own....Also, do it when the ground is really wet when you are learning....it will be way easier that way!
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: red_phil on November 22, 2004, 10:30:50 AM
Wheelies I can understand.
But Burnouts always struck me as an easy way to kill a tire,
not really impressive as stunts go and generally just kinda dumb.

OK, as you said, the tire was a dead'un anywayso I suppose that helps.
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: callmelenny on November 22, 2004, 01:06:13 PM
Quote from: jamesmcb
Quote from: jusAgssooo how'd you do it? the burn out i mean. been trying to do it for awhile :dunno:

The first time I did it, I had a friend help me out....he stood in front of the bike and pushed down on the front fork....this helped me get my weight off the back tire....he also had a hand helping hold the brake down....after that first time, I could do it on my own....Also, do it when the ground is really wet when you are learning....it will be way easier that way!

This sounds like the beginning of a Darwin Award story...

I am imagining the bike shooting forward with the friend wrapped around steering column with ass burning on tire
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on November 22, 2004, 03:22:26 PM
sounds like fun!
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Hysyde636 on November 22, 2004, 07:01:05 PM
If you guys are that anxious to ruin a perfectly good tire, I've got plenty of lighter fluid and some matches...... :mrgreen:
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Dragonfly on November 23, 2004, 08:24:52 AM
If you havent noticed, me and the other guy doing burn outs, both had a new tire waiting... so what is the harm???

Some good smoke and good pics......
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: bikenut on November 24, 2004, 03:20:30 PM
I saw a flat track race on Speed Channel recently with bikes that had no gears or brakes.  After the race the winner rode straight up to the retaining wall, lodged his front wheel right up against the wall and burned out for the crowd.  Didn't have to worry about the bike shooting forward that way.

While burnouts may be cool, the odor of burning rubber is putrid and environmentally criminal.
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: 96gs on November 24, 2004, 08:41:26 PM
OK so when the tire starts to spin do you let the clutch out completely while giving it more gas?!?
Title: hmmm...
Post by: coll0412 on November 24, 2004, 10:24:50 PM
96gs first you need to put some riding gear on, the pic of you in shorts, a tee shirt and a helmet....disaster waiting to happen....

Just hold down the brake with an gorilla grip, take your weight of the seat and push down on the handle bars

Then rev er up, grab that brake like it nobodys bisnass, drop the clutch, you feel the tire break loose, then adjust the throttle  to get desired tire destroying action..



:cheers:
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on November 30, 2004, 03:50:36 PM
Quote from: 96gsOK so when the tire starts to spin do you let the clutch out completely while giving it more gas?!?

Once it is spinning yea, but you'll have to do it slowly, which is probably wearing out the clutch pretty bad.....but if you let it out to slow the tire will get traction again and stop.
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: Aznboytpk on November 30, 2004, 04:48:53 PM
Dont' do it slowly, just smoothly let the clutch out with a good rev.
If you feel the tire will stick, then use more rev but still let the clutch out smooth, not slow and pausy
Title: Discovering how to burn out... :) :) :)
Post by: jamesmcb on December 01, 2004, 08:24:37 AM
Just got my new tire....no more burning out for me   :(  :nono: