I've got the wileyco muffler... it's great... except it is too loud. If I lived in a house... okay.. fine not bad.
Living in my townhouse... my neighbors 'house' is attached to mine. And my muffler is simply just too loud..
If there's not a way to quiet it down then I've gotta trade someone for their stock exhaust. If you have a stock exhaust system and live anywhere near atlanta then PM me......
Ouch. That's no good. Coming home shouldn't be a problem.. you can shut it down quickly. But I'm guessing the problem is starting up, especially when it's cold and takes a while to warm up...
Anyway, sorry about that... I'm sure my neighbors aren't too keen on mine, but no one has said anything so...
trey
the problem is warming up. While noone's complained.. yet.. I live in a 'richerish' apt complex. No kids.. mainly business people. Me starting up at 7am, letting it warm up for 5 min or so isn't really a possibility. coming home I literally coast into the garage.
OK then R&D from Srinath Labs will get on it ... How about sticking a extrusion piece ~ a foot long and welding a round flange to it and bolting that in the middle with the extrusion in the baffle ... OK confused ... OK ...
Just some flow dividing stuff ... sending the exhaust into small flow conduits will make it quieter ... Lets see ...
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Srinath.
And metallic cans are louder ... and angrier ... No sense swapping it now ... well Lemme cook up somehitng and then see ...
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Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathAnd metallic cans are louder ... and angrier ... No sense swapping it now ... well Lemme cook up somehitng and then see ...
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Srinath.
The post office line was literally going down the sidewalk... so I didn't mail out the carbs today.... Should I mail you my muffler too? :dunno:
it's just soo loud. grr....
Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK then R&D from Srinath Labs will get on it ... How about sticking a extrusion piece ~ a foot long and welding a round flange to it and bolting that in the middle with the extrusion in the baffle ... OK confused ... OK ...
Just some flow dividing stuff ... sending the exhaust into small flow conduits will make it quieter ... Lets see ...
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Srinath.
you mean forcing the exhaust to go through the 'exhaust material'? I thought of that, but decided it was a bad idea to try..... I was actually very satisfied with the stock carbs/exhaust, etc etc... so I pretty much decided I was sick of looking at that pretty carbon fiber muffler just sitting there... and the dynojet carbs I paid good damn money for.. just going to waste.
kind of wish I had left it... honestly.. just because I'm really not interested in the extra power too much
Maybe Srinath can whip you up some kind of removable baffle like the rice kids have for their mufflers?
Like This... (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7941901523&category=33636)
Could pop it in when warming up and take it out once you're down the driveway? I have no idea if something like that is possible...
trey
no way you can make a baffle that just pops in the end?
Quote from: treybradMaybe Srinath can whip you up some kind of removable baffle like the rice kids have for their mufflers?
Like This...
Could pop it in when warming up and take it out once you're down the driveway? I have no idea if something like that is possible...
trey
if it can be done then srinath can do it..
the question is
1) CAN it be done?
2) WILL he do it?
Ohhh just hang some sound deadening foam all around the garage (kidding). Maybe stuff some steel wool in the pipe and get a pony clamp to hold it in there (little spring clamps) while it warms up....maybe get rid of the rubber tips off the clamp and wrap it in something that can take the heat without melting or burning-and not scratch your pipe....
7 am isn't that early and you do PAY to live there..... What time does your neighbor go to work? Roll the bike outside and start it...that way everyone gets to listen to it sing....
Typically noise ordinances are in effect from 8pm to 8am. If you can leave at 8 instead of 7 then you're good to go.
time isn't really the major factor.
it's really loud. it's too loud. Yes, I could probably be that loud and noone make a huge deal; but I guess I'd rather just respect everyone's elses soundspace/privacy or whatever...
if anyone complains tell them at least it's not a harley.....
my friend's silencer that came off his car (HKS exhaust off of a Fc3s Mazda RX-7), oddly fits on my F1s muffler I just bought. Sounds wierd but does turn the decibles down. It's the silencer type where you slap it at the hole end of the muffler, and tighten it w/ a screw.. see if you can go to your muffler shop and pick one up for like 20 bucks or something....
Quote from: se7enty7time isn't really the major factor.
it's really loud. it's too loud. Yes, I could probably be that loud and noone make a huge deal; but I guess I'd rather just respect everyone's elses soundspace/privacy or whatever...
Wow. That's mighty nice of you. I wish more people were like that.
I was thinking I'll make a bolt in thing out of that adapter plate they had and use some aluminum extrusion ... the exhaust will get divided into small little flow conduits and will come out in many little streams ... wont hurt the flow that much ... and no need for the can ... remember I still have Laura's ... :lol: baffles really send the exhaust into eddies ... the smooth baffle that can has is great for flow but doesn't do much for eddies ... now I'll send it into 5-6 small conduits and they should come out in eddies and re merge into the exhaust before exiting ... I can do a noise test as well ... now the main issue is ... finding that extrusion ... which I will prolly get to later next week, and if nothing turns up ... after new years ... shouldn't cost more than 10-20 bucks ... and most of that is for the aluminum welding ... I'll show you what I intend to do ... I have to find it first ... saw it 2 weeks ago ... but not there now :x
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Srinath.
Actually that's why I LOVE the stock exhaust. It makes her sooo silent the guy next door would not even hear her when warming up.
It generates a sound level that makes people (including cops, I learned 8) ) un-aggressive towards bikers. Even if I do not have se7enty7's problem, I can perfectly understand the concern.
Wish more GS forum denizens would consider the consequences before hacking up their stock exhaust systems. I try to warn them but no one wants to hear it. Just want to hear the positive reinforcement :roll:
OK No problem with noise ever ... in 10 years never had any cop mention it... and when I got hit by a car ... the cop said she didn't hear you with that noise ... He didn't actually hear it ... cos the bike was busted in the crash ... and In Atlanta and Charlotte and most of US ... you'll get run over on the roads easily ... cos our cagers are blind ... remember last year that dude lowed into a flea market and killed 19 people ... every few months shaZam! like that happens ... dont exactly know for sure if the noise scares people off the collision course ... but I find less people put their turn signals on when I am in their blind spot with louder pipe that without ... Now se7enty7 lives in a more upscale area ... and he is a rather understated dude ... making the attention more objectionable ... I dont care ... I'd rather people woke up with my exhaust noise and stayed out of my way in their cages and go back to sleep after I am safe distance away and the noise has died down ... heck I might get ticketed for waking up the sleeping cagers ... I tell ya ... people buy bigger and more sound proofed vehicles as an alternative to learning to drive well ...
BTW this town has a large number of people on scooters and mopeds ... some of those are fast ... scooters especially ... I talk to one guy yesterday ... and get this ... he's on a scooter cos he has no license ... the judge took it away ... for a 3rd dui in under 3 years ... I tell ya ... stoopid people ... thousands of them all over the place ...
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Srinath.
haha.. speaking of scooters and exhaust.. I was driving down the road the other day on the bike and was watching this guy on a scooter. We came to a stop light and what did I notice?... why a big Yoshi can on it :o
Pretty funny. The can was way bigger than my F1s and looked HUGE on the tiny scooter. Sounded pretty neat for a scooter I guess... :dunno:
trey
Quote... but I find less people put their turn signals on when I am in their blind spot with louder pipe that without ...
That might be one of the rare occasions when a loud pipe provides a benefit for all its annoying clamor. Really, though, staying out of the cages blind spot is standard MSF procedure, I'm sure.
I'm reminded of my youth when I rode my GS outside city limits so I could listen to the scream of my new aftermarket pipe. When I returned home my brother informed he could hear the shriek even though I was testing 4 miles away. :oops: That was that.
Its hard to do in traffic ... you have to stay a certain distance back from the car in front, and leave too much gap and some chowderhead will move in, leave too less and you may rear end the guy in front if he hits the brakes ... and anyway ... there is the obvious startled look from the cagers that think the room is there for them to shift in...
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Srinath.
RGR that.. a couple times, A cager would try to take my lane, and I'd have to take the shoulder or squeeze lanes while honking, cuz someone couldn't hear/see my GS, and they couldn't look over their shoulder like they should (70% of cagers have neck problems, and can't look over their shoulder.. that must be it.) Now with my new muffler just on, they look over their shoulder even though they're not changing lanes, just cuz they hear something rumbling from their side.
BTW: When I had a stock muffler on, I leave the house at 3AM, in my condo, where I think it's still loud. But I've never seen lights flicker on, or people yell at me. so I'm hoping I'm doin ok.. But I don't warm up nor put my throttle up until I hit the stoplight in the bottom of my building, where no one could hear me.
I agree w/ Srinath. Better safe and obnoxious, than silent and unseen...
Btw Jacob ... Didn't I send you a 4 inch piece of SS pipe with the new flange ... That will let you slip the stock one back on the same way you have the Wileyco and mid pipe on ... you have the stock one still right ...
I'll send it back with your carbs ... If you dont have it ...
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Srinath.
I'm another guy who traded the loud pipes that came with the bike for a stocker. I do agree that on occasion the loud pipe might alert a driver. Just like once in a very great while some Rube-Goldberg interpretation of an accident will explain how the poor sap would have been better off without a seatbelt. But say you're on a highway, your pipe would have to be pretty loud for the car to notice. I agree you can't stay out of blind spots all the time. What I've been trying very hard to train myself for, because it's not real natural for me (being a nonagressive type), is to get that left thumb on the horn button.
Even then, like on I-40 running 75mph, I have visions of the SUV hearing my horn while about to change lanes, and overcompensating to get back and flipping over.
Face it, we're doomed.
But for my rides and my neighborhood, I'm keeping the stocker and finding another way to deal with Srinath's scenario to the best extent I can.
FWIW,
Mike D.
OK Thread Hijack in progress ...
Geek ... You have y = mx + b in your title ... Oddly in India that was y = mx + c ... culture differences ...
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Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK Thread Hijack in progress ...
Geek ... You have y = mx + b in your title ... Oddly in India that was y = mx + c ... culture differences ...
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Srinath.
I'm trying to remember putting it there.
I'm also considering a revolution, where calculus books write the equation y=b+mx, or rewrite the point-slope form from
Y-Y1=M(X-X1)
to
Y=Y1+M(X-X1),
with lower cases all around but I thought it would be more obvious like this for the post. My reasoning is that it looks better like the "linear approximation." I think it's a losing battle.
Back to the topic:
I'm EXHAUSTED! HA HA HA HA HA!
Quote from: seshadri_srinathBtw Jacob ... Didn't I send you a 4 inch piece of SS pipe with the new flange ... That will let you slip the stock one back on the same way you have the Wileyco and mid pipe on ... you have the stock one still right ...
I'll send it back with your carbs ... If you dont have it ...
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Srinath.
huh?
I just got the flange with the pipe welded to it.. no way to put my stock exhaust back on..
I made only ~4 of those, and sent out those on special request ... but no big deal, I have a couple or heck its a 20 cent piece of pipe ... you have the stock one still right ... I'll send it ... should let you run the stocker, and in 5 mins change over to the wileyco ... well when the thing is cold ofcourse ... Yea I am weird like that ...
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Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathI made only ~4 of those, and sent out those on special request ... but no big deal, I have a couple or heck its a 20 cent piece of pipe ... you have the stock one still right ... I'll send it ... should let you run the stocker, and in 5 mins change over to the wileyco ... well when the thing is cold ofcourse ... Yea I am weird like that ...
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Srinath.
hmm.. that might be a good solution. If you think you can get the wileyco quieter then awesome...
What I might do, is have to jet my 'stock' carbs (mains are 122.5) for stock muffler airbox, and jet my DJ carbs for the wileyco can and K&N pods
actually.. I can jet my stocks myself... I think.. I mean it's like a car carb?
it's the DJ carbs I'm not real confident about. I cleaned them, and adjusted everything (floats, airmix, etc) per DJ instructions and they still run like sh!t.
Well that slipper thing will not go in the wileyco ... You use the stock muffler ... but in a situation where you can swap over ... say you move and later the noise dont matter, or you find out the noise didn't affect anything ... etc ... you swap it back ... It lets you put the stock stuff back on ... and swap to wiley co in 5 mins ...
Jetting ... 125 mains and 40 pilots and 3 turns and 1 #4 under needles ... and the same for slip on or stock pipe with Paper filter in airbox ...
DJ carbs ... ha ha ... that is a shiny POS ... no one seems to have given me any feed back and I hope its not cos the bike didn't run at all ...
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Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathWell that slipper thing will not go in the wileyco ... You use the stock muffler ... but in a situation where you can swap over ... say you move and later the noise dont matter, or you find out the noise didn't affect anything ... etc ... you swap it back ... It lets you put the stock stuff back on ... and swap to wiley co in 5 mins ...
Jetting ... 125 mains and 40 pilots and 3 turns and 1 #4 under needles ... and the same for slip on or stock pipe with Paper filter in airbox ...
DJ carbs ... ha ha ... that is a shiny POS ... no one seems to have given me any feed back and I hope its not cos the bike didn't run at all ...
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Srinath.
mine runs, but bogs down really bad under about 3k. over 3k and it's great.
but that means starting out from a stop is... loud.. and annoying... and difficult.. cause you've gotta get the revs way up.
I've played w/ the mixture screw, completely tore them down and rebuilt per DJ instruction.. all at no avail.
The only thing I noticed is that the slides... there are two plugs that you put in each slide but DJ says "Remove one plug for racing or better street performance" and one plug IS removed. I might contact DJ for the missing plug.. see if that helps...
That 1 plug 2 plug thing is a load of crock ... The slide lifts at just about the right speed left as is ... now see if the slide lifts at the stock rate its supposed to and you leave the stock needle there ... a little bit of variation is built in and you most likely will have a bike that runs right ... their needle has a drastic taper, making the mix much more sensitive to slide lift speed ... making for a slide that lifts too fast ... blocking 1 hole and restricting the other = too slow ... blocking one and leaving other open = too fast ... Heck on a stock needle slide combo 1 hole open = faster than ideal ... but you never feel it on the street ... put it on a dyno and those open shut open tests sometimes show a waver in it ... indicating its rather quicker than ideal ... Where I disagree with their whole "Better street performance leave 1 open ..." WTF ... make up your mind ... there is no 2 answers ... if its too fast you have a bike that sorta jerks and falls on its face ... if too slow it will act like its choking and rev up very slowly. There is a narrow range where its right ... 1 plug and 2 plug difference is far to wide and if you are too fast on one you'll most likely end up too slow with both ... I drilled out the plugs in one of the slides that came to me cos it had both and I felt they should be closer to stock but not as big ... Now that's what you are sending me ... the DJ carbs ... Gee thanks ...
Anyway over 3 K is fine but under 3K its bogging ... OK in cold weather is it worse when engine is cold or worse when engine is hot ...
Also if the weather is hot and engine is hot ... how is it and in hot weather with a cold engine how is it ... like we are going to have hot weather for the next 6 months ... OK valid point ... but tell me how the thing is when weather is cold. It might need 40 pilots ... if its worse when engine is cold and improves slightly when engine gets hot.
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Srinath.