Well I've been out of a job for about a month now. I still owe 1k on the GS and have been looking for a job to pay it off. I don't need to make any payments until summer '05 because I'm so ahead of my payments. I had a kick ass job before I got laid off. Now I need some cash to buy a new faster toy. I'm just wondering what everyone thinks I can get for my GS. It's a blue '04 with 2500 miles on it. My original plan was to buy 2 toys before I go back to school. A motorcycle and a car/ an or another motorcycle. I refuse to go to school until I have another new toy so I think I might have to forfeit the GS. Just wondering what you guys think I would be able to get selling it.
Again it's a blue '04 with 2500 miles on it and it has never been dropped or abused. It's my first bike. I got it fresh out of the crate with 0 miles on it. I changed the oil at 600 miles then at 1000 miles. The front tire was replaced at 800 miles due to a defect. (the tire was shredding and tearing back where the sidewall met the tread) I've also waxed it about 6 times since I've owned it. If the paint didn't feel smooth I waxed it. I just need a faster bike or a nice sporty fast car to hold me over until after I get out of school. Once I go to school I won't be able to afford anymore toys. The GS is a fun bike and all but I grew out of it really fast.
Also it's 100% stock. Absolutley nothing done to it except oil changes. It still has the warning stickers on the side fairings and tank. It's pretty much still a show room floor bike but it has never even seen the show room floor.
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let the lecturing begin!
Do yourself a favor and do another 2,500 miles on it.
Better to put off your "need for speed" for a couple of months than to wind-up in a situation where a little more experience could have prevented you from getting into an accident. It's a big bad world out there.
Good Luck
Where are you located?? give email , or send info to unlegal_sales@interia.pl , 908-380-3885 Kamil
why sell it? there is plenty you can do to the bike to enhance it. drop a tooth or two in the front sprocket (vroom), do some suspension mods. the list is huge, with only 2,500 miles theres plenty more experience yet to be had on that bike. you can make it a decent bit faster and handle a whole heck of a lot better for cheap, be like having a new bike for a fraction of the cost, and if you have a financial situation i wouldnt be going out and buying a new bike. but hey thats just my .02 :dunno:
Quote from: pprider...with only 2,500 miles theres plenty more experience yet to be had on that bike.
...and if you have a financial situation i wouldnt be going out and buying a new bike.
I agree, not to mention insurance.
Get a Porche or a Viper, something that will really impress the chicks (because that's what going to college is all about). You need to stand out from the dweebs who worked all summer at Mc Donald's to buy a $500 'piece of sh*t' just so they could live off campus. Heavens forbid you should be mistaken for the plebeian masses that walk to class or take public transportation. They never impress chicks (and that's what going to college is all about).
2500 miles? What are you, a slow learner? I learned everything there is to know about motorcycling in 100 miles. I ditched my 250 and went right for the 1500cc monster because that's what impresses chicks (and that's what going to college is all about). While my nerd classmates were walking to the lab or the library I was drawing big rubber circles in the K-mart parking lot and impressing chicks (because that's what going to college is all about). Get as much power between your legs as soon as possible so you can earn the right to hang out with guys named 'Clutch' and 'Cobra' and they can share their philosophy on why dropping out of 10th grade was the best thing that ever happened to them, and, of course impress chicks (because that's what going to college is all about).
Don't let the mamby-pambies tell you that you don't have enough experience for big bikes. Big bikes are an attitude and an honor and only those willing to 'grab the bull by the horns' are worthy of them. Always remember that helmets are for momma's boys that are too weak to control everything around them. You can't impress chicks while wearing a helmet and admitting that you are not in complete control (and impressing chicks is what college is all about).
Always live life as if you have something to prove, eventually somebody will be impressed.
Oh, by the way. Pick up a copy of Kelly's Blue Book or look it up on-line and you can get a fair market value for your bike. Then you can lure some unsuspecting dweeb into beleiving that 500cc's is enoough to impress chicks (because he'll think that's what going to college is all about).
Quote from: Von Vester2500 miles? What are you, a slow learner? I learned everything there is to know about motorcycling in 100 miles.
100 miles?? dude i ditched my gs after just 15 miles! talk about slow learner...
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You were probably coddled by the MSF.
I learned how to ride on the street in front of the motorcycle shop.
Must have stalled out 8 time before I made it home.
Went from 18th Ave to 6th Ave in Brooklyn. That's a lot of stop signs and red lights. I must got off to slow start because I'm still learning. Nothing like taking the MSF course and getting a formal eduction, never mind a diploma.
Quote from: mp183You were probably coddled by the MSF
actually, i was awarded, in MSF, the fastest 8 figured (two u-turns) rider! they said they have never seen anyone do it so fast...:mrgreen:
Damn Vester that shaZam! made me laugh so hard! :lol:
right on Von! :cheers:
Thanks a lot assholes. I actually have a lot of riding experience even though this is my first personally owned bike. And no I don't want a sports car or a motorcycle to "show off to the chicks, because that's what college is all about." I asked a simple question to just get flamed for it. That was pretty harsh. If only you guys knew who I really was instead of thinking I'm some immature kid because I'm 18 with no riding experience or no common sense. That really pisses me off. You guys made me lose a lot of respect for this board.
For the people who gave serious responses I thank you.
As for the people who said to just upgrade the GS, I'm not really planning on doing that. It will never be what I want it to be. I don't see much potential in this bike for what I would want.
well dude, the way you wrote your first message sounded like what most kids do....they buy the GS and think they outgrown it after 5000 miles, then they buy a bigger "faster toy" like you said, and crash....
but i know how it is when you're 18...if you decided to sell the GS you shouldn't have said anything...that way nobody would flame you...but you said you wanted a bigger, faster toy and even though you don't have a job....so that makes a think that you want a bigger bike to show off
Plus, you gave Von Vester the floor. He answered the bell as best he could (with easily the funniest post I've seen on this board). :lol:
I am sure many people dream about bigger faster bikes ( I was just looking at cycletrader myself). But if I lost my kick ass job, the last thing I'd do is buy a new bike. And my GS is piece of crap-o-la.
Well Im 20 and all I have to say is check insurance before you buy anything. I have never gotten a ticket in a car or on my bike and for a 95 CBR 600 insurance was like $1000 a year for liability :bs:
Also, that was under my parents insurance so you can imagine what it would have been under my name.
I just wanted to flame you because you're 18 and have a sweet brand new bike, a nice house in the suburbs with a huge deck, a beautiful yard with awesome trees, a hot tub, and you're unemployed but still can afford a new bike and car. Don't mind me, I'm just jealous...
True dat, Dom. True dat.
we all been there and done that....some of us are just more self-controlled that others.
TOMIMOTO, just do what make you happy man. i don't think this is kind of decision that someone else can make for you. and don't take these foos (including me) too seriously. peace.
I think you went wrong with...
QuoteMy original plan was to buy 2 toys before I go back to school. A motorcycle and a car/ an or another motorcycle. I refuse to go to school until I have another new toy so I think I might have to forfeit the GS.
Saying you refuse to go back w/o a new toy. LOL How did you think people would react, it just makes you sound like such a spoiled brat. Not saying you are, but thats how the words play it. Obviously your getting some help from somewhere be it Mom or Dad. You've got to understand some people work really hard to afford a GS and that alone. My parents ave very generious with me by giving me a rent free place and paying for school. But if I had enuff cash to pick up a Spankin new GS-F and a new car(new or used) then they would say well son maybe you should pick up more of the tab here.
A lot of us work DAMM hard for our GS's while covering rent, food, insurance, school, ect ect. For me the GS is a luxury I worked hard for and am lucky to have. Anything more like a 2nd bike is just excess: esp. in college. But thats just me.
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Thanks for being nicer guys. Don't be hatin' hehe. I knew I was asking to be flamed but I wasn't technically asking for it ya know.
Yah I know I'm spoiled. I live at home for free but I did pay for my bike by myself. I also pay insurance. Under my dad's name though. It's about 400 a year.
Please just no more hate. What really bothers me the most is that you guys judge me by my age. It's alright though it will always happen. I know I have it good, really good actually. I guess I need to be more thankful for what I have. Sorry guys.
I'm gonna be a duck now and make you guys even more angry at me. My daddyo just bought me and my bro an '05 Ford Focus ZX3 to share 2 weeks ago. HAHAHA. Sorry I'm just being a spoiled @$$hole now. Please call me an @$$hole everyone. I'm asking for it this time.
TOMIMOTO = @$$hole
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Dude, sorry about that. Your post was just too tempting and I couldn't just let it go. I'm sorry you were the fall guy for a bit of sarcasm.
I actually envy you, being young and going to college is possibly one of the most exciting, fun, and care free (except for the occasional final exam) times of your life. Enjoy it to the fullest and don't get too caught up in the petty or superficial stuff. Enjoy your studies, make a boat load of new friends, and meet some neat 'chicks' who like you reguardless what you drive (because that's what college is all about).
Quote from: TOMIMOTOWhat really bothers me the most is that you guys judge me by my age.
you will understand in a about 5 years....we know that being young makes you think "you're all that" but later when you grow up you know you we're a dump kid before :mrgreen:
Quote from: TOMIMOTOI'm gonna be a duck now and make you guys even more angry at me. My daddyo just bought me and my bro an '05 Ford Focus ZX3 to share 2 weeks ago. HAHAHA.
Yep. Ha. Ha. Ha.
THe joke really is on you this time mate. Have fun with that great Ford build quality and reliability, not to mention their great corrosion resistance. You know all that salt on the road in NH in the winter? The sand in the spring? Doesnt phase a focus, no-siree. Not to mention the awesome handling and great accelleration.
Oh.. wait. Nevermind. Its a focus. Have fun with body panels that dont line up, interior trim that falls off and falls apart, engine electrical problems, factory recalls, fast fading paint, rust, and general shite-ness. Not to mention the fact that Ford doesnt even see fit to give us the *actual* next generation focus that the rest of the world gets... the one thats basically a rebadged Mazda 3.
I find it amusing that ford cant even build a supercar (the GT) without having serious saftey-threatening recall issues.
Anyway, enjoy the Ford, mate.
I don't envy you actually I feel sorry for you. Having someone hand you expensive things can be a very bad thing in the long run. You do not learn the value and cost of things as you have done nothing to earn them. Why bother to go to college when you have daddy buy you stuff? Maturity and experience comes with age and wisdom is something that cannot be taught. Someday in life, hopefully you will understand.
Quote from: TOMIMOTOPlease just no more hate. What really bothers me the most is that you guys judge me by my age. It's alright though it will always happen. I know I have it good, really good actually. I guess I need to be more thankful for what I have. Sorry guys.
then why don't you take the fact that you are 18 out of your sig? it's like you are trying to rub it in or something. have you noticed that you are the only one on this board that has their age in their sig?
I didn't know the Tard Farm was in New Hampshire.
Thanks for the pics though.
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Yah I was asking for it this time.
I'm sorry for being a duck. I just hope it doesn't become akward for me to visit this board or post without getting yelled at for everything I say. I like coming here and reading about all the nice info.
I think I'm gonna ban myself and lay low for a little while though.
Sorry for the trouble guys.
I have read, and I believe that this is true, that the best motorcycle for picking up girls is not a motorcycle but rather a Vespa.
With a scooter, a girl is more likely to enjoy the ride instead of praying that you don't crash and wishing every second of the ride that it could be over already.
I'm not a girl, but this is true for me too. I've been riding motorcycles for 5 years but I still get freaked out by riding pilion.
Quote from: Adam RI'm not a girl, but this is true for me too. I've been riding motorcycles for 5 years but I still get freaked out by riding pilion.
Depends on the rider, totally. I have a hoot with a good rider. Then again, I'm not big enough to change the dynamics of a bike all that much; a big guy with a big bike will barely notice that I'm there.
All in all, I care more about rider skill than the type of bike, and driver skill rather than the type of car. BTDT on guys with expensive rides. Who gives a swut.
Oh, and my two cents on the rest - a lot of us grew up and can look on our dumb kid times with humor. With luck, he'll grow up and do the same. Without luck, he'll grow older and still won't get it...
Dom i was thinking exactly the same thing.....man those red tights are making you a genius and now...psychic. Gonna look for mine now... :roll:
Ahh...forgot to mention my to cents...coming from the peasant class and all that not to mention a Bronx birthright.....was busy at work and being recently engaged and all...cold weather and snow etc.....and yet even with all that going on i haven't the time to be as much of a spoiled @$$hole as tomimoto. PS tomi...i must say ya have a beautiful crib and obviously doting parents but your little apology there carries about as much weight with me as a 3 dollar bill with Bin Laden's face on the cover. That said...in the time i've been here i haven't seen anyone that would inspire such a bit of anger in me. Not one bit. Then you came along.
That said....i have 4 bits of thought.
1) guys and gals your age are dying (literally) all over the world just trying to live honorably and/or make ends meet. Something i can never forget.
2) Stick your apology where the sun don't shine. In this case i can only speak for myself...but such is free speach eh..???
3) Get yourself a liter bike...maybe a GSX-R...go crazy on it. You'll learn quick. Satisfy them wild oats.
4) Make some friends. Maybe living in the boonies and having no one to boast to is affecting your self esteem. After all...squirrels don't care what car you drive.
Cya tomi.
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actually, i am 18. and my first bike was a gs. now i have two 1100's and i want to get rid of them for a new gs. a little gs with suspension will by far out handle a larger bike because of the weight difference. and when u say college is about impressing chicks... you are right. my lil gs impressed more chicks than my 1100;s do
Quote from: Adam RI have read, and I believe that this is true, that the best motorcycle for picking up girls is not a motorcycle but rather a Vespa.
I've always heard that the vest bike to get girls on is a Goldwing. You know, the whole comfy back seat with arm rests, the stereo, the heater, and so on.
Vespas work too, I would imagine.
I tried taking my GF for a ride on my GS... even with the preload cranked up, I just dont have much interest in two-up riding at this point. She got quite a hoot out of a freeway run on the back of my friend's GSX-R600 though. :dunno: We were riding to the Toyota dealership.. where she bought herself a new car... with her own money, which she worked her tail off for, while attending college full time and getting good grades.
Note that I love my GF. :kiss: :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:
Back to your original question. What can you get? Check nada. Maybe watch some bikes on EBay. Just don't trade it in to the dealer. As an individual you're unlikely to get what nada says. My guess is that you could get about $3000 for it, unless you find someone who personally knows you and wants it, or you want to sit on it for a while. In one of those scenarios maybe you could get closer to $4K. I'm no expert, I just know what the difference between nada and what I get when I don't want to sit on it. Cycletrader.com can give you an idea what folks are asking, and they have a link to nada there too.
You could find a shop that will sell on consignment, and since it has some "dealer aura" you could put the nada value on it for the price and see what happens. You might have to cough up a couple hundred, if dealers out there are like dealers out here. And you may have to wait until Spring when people up North are actually interested in buying.
Good luck. I would probably trade you my '98 (and some $$$, like the nada difference minus an airline ticket) for yours but I doubt you want to do that.
--Mike D.
Von, that was great and I guess some people just don't know sarcasm when they hear it, I really don't care what you do with your bike if you want a new one get it but don't rip on someone who posted the most amusing thing I've read in a while, 18 + no job + going to school + insurance + living expenses + text books + rent + utilities = no money unless the parents have your back in which case all the power to ya, I only had the money for a 1990 and it will serve me well until I'm done school and then I'll get whatever I feel like (unless the hot chick I picked up at college with my bike says otherwise) Good luck in school and don't worry about having the fastest car or bike just do what you want and if you're happy then don't worry about anything anyone says, especially on a random internet site. Happy New Years everyone.
sell it
and buy an f3
To all, thanks for the entertainment. :) Although I don't think spending money with little to none coming in is the wisest move (unless you're a country), everybody's situation is different. "If it feels right, go for it" I always say.
On the original question, I'd guess your "Blue '04 GS500 with 2500 miles on it" would fetch between $3500-3900. You should get more money for it if you sell it in the spring, but your "Toy" will be more proportionally expensive as well. Probably best if you buy your toy now and sell your GS500 in April, just when a warm sunny day calls all riders to throw a leg over.
Good luck...
There are a couple of good lessons to learn from this whole thread.
1. Don't give too much information.
To cut to the chase, you could have just asked what the bike should fetch and leave it at that. This is a friendly enough forum that many of us indulge in a little "'thinking out loud," but words can rub people the wrong way out of context.
Then again even if you didn't tell us so much, someone would chime in with "why would you want to sell it?" Sometimes ya gotta be terse, like "I've been looking at other bikes for some time and my curiosity is getting to me," and live with the inevitable replies and ignore them, or weigh them and decide if you want to ignore them. Better yet, try "I just want to know what my options are." Easy to say in hindsight.
2. We gotta keep from jumping to conclusions based upon someone's thinking out loud.
Re-reading the original post, your thinking is understandable. Not the wisest reasoning, but understandable. Let me play the psychologist. You had a good job, were paying for the GS and insurance (more than a lot of 18-year-olds aspire to), and you got more ambitious and had your mind set on getting some more cool toys. The capitalist in me salutes you. In fact it sounded like you felt you could buy some things that could keep you happy for a long time, and be settled in those departments. Then you lost your job, and your ambitions were halved. But remember, ESPECIALLY at your age, in this society you're not considered a fully mature adult until you either (a) are out on your own, or if you go to college, until you (b) graduate college. And it is worth the wait on (b). You don't need all the trappings of maturity when you go to college. You are in essence sacrificing instant gratification for something better down the road. The ones who ultimately get the most respect at college are the ones putting themselves through, driving crappy cars (or no cars), barely scraping by, and taking their college studies very seriously. The next ones are those who just take their college studies very seriously.
If you doubt what I said about when people think you're mature, consider this. Even as a graduate student a month from getting a PhD, suppose I had been murdered in my sleep. The headline would have read "Purdue Student Murdered in His Sleep." If I were an 18-year-old high school dropout working at the local Venetian Blind factory and murdered in the same bed, the headline would have been "Lafayette Man Murdered in His Sleep."
That said, I admit I lived off of my parents when I was in college. They paid my tuition, room and board, lent me a car fully insured ('82 Econoline van they got tired of driving kids around in, then an '82 Escort, this was in the late '80's), and I got an extra maybe $60 per month my last couple years after rent, but I also had to pay phone and gas and feed myself. But you know what? They also read my report cards, and I worked harder for them than I would have for myself. That's just me. I hope to do the same for my kids. If I wanted extra cash, I waited agonizingly for my bi-weekly paycheck, usually about $40 at $3.35/hour for math lab tutoring or grading papers. I also did some work at McDonald's, which was far more lucrative due to the hours, and some work in a lab torturing rats. In my next six years, in grad school I thought I was wealthy on about $12K per year as a TA (early 1990's), with just my insurance (car and health) paid by my folks. Which brings me to another point, roughly approximate to what someone else wrote:
(3) It's a lot easier to make it through the lean years if you lived them when you were young. Another reason to NOT worry about the really great toys in College, but concentrate on your job, which is to study. The lean lifestyle is a natural consequence, and it is healthy. It has SO many benefits for you later in life, in terms of outlook, work ethic (working McDonald's helps there too!), and intellectual capability. You also learn to live in a 10X15 room, or a dumpy apartment. And what little you really need to survive.
The biggest mistakes young people first starting out make, IMO, are buying cars or houses that are too expensive. A $300 car payment can loom really large in a monthly budget, and more expensive cars are more expensive to insure and maintain to boot! Ditto a $700+ mortgage on a house. Live a level or two below what you can afford in a good month, and you'll be OK in the lean months. Don't ask me how I know how true this last paragraph is.
Well, the thread inspired the preacher in me too. Good luck whatever you decide.
--Mike D.