Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 12, 2005, 07:47:59 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 12, 2005, 07:47:59 PM
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: stefman722 on January 12, 2005, 08:04:34 PM
Post by: stefman722 on January 12, 2005, 08:04:34 PM
Well, its about time! No but serioulsy. For all your work done. Let me be the 1st to say GOOD JOB!! :thumb: LOOKS AWSOME!! its too bad it was that much of a hassle. But it paid off. 12 hours for a job like that would have pissed me off. I wouldnt even have attempted. I woulda gave it back. Ill be waiting for the hugger made by a member on GS. Apart from that, good job again. I like it.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: Stephen072774 on January 12, 2005, 08:07:43 PM
Post by: Stephen072774 on January 12, 2005, 08:07:43 PM
You'd think since they haven't sold many in the US that they'd take extra care to make sure that it went together well and was painted good. :dunno:
It looks great, I must say. You did one heck of a job :thumb:
It looks great, I must say. You did one heck of a job :thumb:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 12, 2005, 08:16:17 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 12, 2005, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: stefman722Well, its about time! No but serioulsy. For all your work done. Let me be the 1st to say GOOD JOB!! LOOKS AWSOME!!...I woulda gave it back.hehe...thanks...i'm glad you like it. believe me, i would have returned it if i could...
Quote from: Stephen072774You'd think since they haven't sold many in the US that they'd take extra care to make sure that it went together well and was painted good.my thoughts exactly! either they're incompetent or just don't care... :dunno:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: airbrush on January 12, 2005, 08:19:32 PM
Post by: airbrush on January 12, 2005, 08:19:32 PM
thx for the review....doesnt sound like a good deal to me :?
I am in the process of making the master for my hugger so hang tight and i'll let you know how mine turn out... you can check my thread here
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13737
I am in the process of making the master for my hugger so hang tight and i'll let you know how mine turn out... you can check my thread here
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13737
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: weaselnoze on January 12, 2005, 08:30:38 PM
Post by: weaselnoze on January 12, 2005, 08:30:38 PM
but is it actually coming along?? ur last post was nov 27?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: airbrush on January 12, 2005, 08:33:29 PM
Post by: airbrush on January 12, 2005, 08:33:29 PM
yup...i started on it yesterday...i was delayed before the holidays by other "paying" projects...so it got put on the backburner til now. I'm in no rush as this is something I am doing for myself, so lets put it this way...gaurantee you it will be done by spring, time for riding. :thumb:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: juno on January 13, 2005, 08:56:40 AM
Post by: juno on January 13, 2005, 08:56:40 AM
Thanks JetSwing---great write-up. :thumb:
But man, that sucks. :x
At this point I can say I'm glad I held off on ordering to read your review.
What a disappointment. :(
But man, that sucks. :x
At this point I can say I'm glad I held off on ordering to read your review.
What a disappointment. :(
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 09:43:38 AM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 09:43:38 AM
Quote from: junoAt this point I can say I'm glad I held off on ordering to read your review.like i've said, if you don't mind the work, give it a thought...but i guess it all boils down to whether it's worth the money for you...
What a disappointment. :(
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: airbrush on January 13, 2005, 10:00:53 AM
Post by: airbrush on January 13, 2005, 10:00:53 AM
i would say a weekend spent on something that says its made for the bike is pretty lousy!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on January 13, 2005, 10:04:53 AM
Post by: fettcols on January 13, 2005, 10:04:53 AM
Okay, who wants to be the first to make a mold of this thing and start making a better product here in the US?
As far as the hugger goes, do you think a person would be better off paying the $100 bucks for a bandit 400 and trimming it themself?
fett
As far as the hugger goes, do you think a person would be better off paying the $100 bucks for a bandit 400 and trimming it themself?
fett
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: airbrush on January 13, 2005, 10:15:21 AM
Post by: airbrush on January 13, 2005, 10:15:21 AM
well if my hugger turns out well enough...I will think about possibly making an undertail as well but that will be a ways off as this I am just making this stuff in my spare time...which is limited.
As far as the bandit one is concerned... i would say hold off til you see the results of mine...then you wont have to do any trimming at all. :thumb:
As far as the bandit one is concerned... i would say hold off til you see the results of mine...then you wont have to do any trimming at all. :thumb:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: stefman722 on January 13, 2005, 10:37:59 AM
Post by: stefman722 on January 13, 2005, 10:37:59 AM
Quote from: airbrushwell if my hugger turns out well enough...I will think about possibly making an undertail as well but that will be a ways off as this I am just making this stuff in my spare time...which is limited.
As far as the bandit one is concerned... i would say hold off til you see the results of mine...then you wont have to do any trimming at all. :thumb:
Good. So now your the one who we will bother! mouhahah. So. Is it done yet? lol jk
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 02:06:09 PM
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 02:06:09 PM
Looks like Aluizio Motors should have spent a little more time on R&D than on advertising.
Send me the parts and I will pull a mold off of them to make them out of carbon fiber.
Send me the parts and I will pull a mold off of them to make them out of carbon fiber.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: chinox22x on January 13, 2005, 02:07:50 PM
Post by: chinox22x on January 13, 2005, 02:07:50 PM
Quote from: dgyverLooks like Aluizio Motors should have spent a little more time on R&D than on advertising.
Send me the parts and I will pull a mold off of them to make them out of carbon fiber.
at least the hugger..but the whole thing would rock if you can do this dgyver!
:thumb:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 02:40:07 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 02:40:07 PM
Quote from: dgyverSend me the parts and I will pull a mold off of them to make them out of carbon fiber.are you serious?? :?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 02:53:40 PM
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 02:53:40 PM
Quote from: JetSwingYepQuote from: dgyverSend me the parts and I will pull a mold off of them to make them out of carbon fiber.are you serious?? :?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 03:52:38 PM
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 03:52:38 PM
dgyver:
:? you're telling me that when my order comes in (if ever, F*&&^ING customs retaining my order). . .
i just don't open it and send it to you
and you'll make me a PROPER undertail/hugger combo for my F?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :?
. . .how much?
cheers,
joel
:? you're telling me that when my order comes in (if ever, F*&&^ING customs retaining my order). . .
i just don't open it and send it to you
and you'll make me a PROPER undertail/hugger combo for my F?
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :?
. . .how much?
cheers,
joel
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 03:59:04 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 03:59:04 PM
dolepineapple, what's wrong with one you're getting? you haven't even seen it yet! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: girlracer on January 13, 2005, 04:00:33 PM
Post by: girlracer on January 13, 2005, 04:00:33 PM
Sorry about all the extra work, but it does look very sweet on the bike.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 04:09:59 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 04:09:59 PM
Quote from: girlracerSorry about all the extra work, but it does look very sweet on the bike.glad you like it...trust me, it's not that impressive in person ;)
i like working on my bike but not on something that i already paid $250 for... :bs:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 04:20:23 PM
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 04:20:23 PM
you're right jetswing. . .
i'm just anticipating a disappointment here, as well. . .
arrrrrrgh crap. . .
it's raining outside. . .
i wanted to go for a freakin ride today!!!!!!!
:x :x :x
i'm just anticipating a disappointment here, as well. . .
arrrrrrgh crap. . .
it's raining outside. . .
i wanted to go for a freakin ride today!!!!!!!
:x :x :x
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
dolepineapple, that's a good plan...keep your expectations way way way low. who knows, you might be pleasantly surprised how everything fits so well...errr...preobably not! :lol:
ride? i thought your bike were in a storage mode?
ride? i thought your bike were in a storage mode?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 04:29:29 PM
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 04:29:29 PM
WERE in storage mode. . .
until i took it out a few days ago to remove the fairing and silicone spary the engine. . .
last night i had a chance to put it back on. . .
and all it took was putting the battery back on
and taking the plastic bag out that i stuffed in the exhaust. . .
and tada,
the bike WAS in storage mode :lol: :lol: :lol:
cheeers,
joel
until i took it out a few days ago to remove the fairing and silicone spary the engine. . .
last night i had a chance to put it back on. . .
and all it took was putting the battery back on
and taking the plastic bag out that i stuffed in the exhaust. . .
and tada,
the bike WAS in storage mode :lol: :lol: :lol:
cheeers,
joel
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 05:29:27 PM
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 05:29:27 PM
Quote from: dolepineappledgyver:
:? you're telling me that when my order comes in (if ever, F*&&^ING customs retaining my order). . .
i just don't open it and send it to you
and you'll make me a PROPER undertail/hugger combo for my F?
Making a "proper" undertail/hugger may be a little of an over statement. Copying theirs is not a problem but sourcing a tail light (for additional pieces) would be. I have been giving serious thought to making a undertail which uses the stock tail light but have not looked into options for other lights, like one from another bike.
As for a hugger, I am planning on making a SV part this weekend and using it as a model for the GS. Easy to mock up a master. I already have the SV hugger mold. Almost finished with the 01+ gp tail master and it is going better than I thought.
Wait until yours comes in and then see how you like it.
When I installed an undertail on my TLR, the fit around the tail light was not as good as I would have liked. The directions sucked since the stock trunk area had to be cut out. The license plate did not fit US plates. I had to make my own bracket. It was made by www.Eurobikes.com and was around $250.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 05:31:44 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 05:31:44 PM
Quote from: dolepineapplelast night i had a chance to put it back on. . .so you had a weak moment and woke up your gs...
and all it took was putting the battery back on
and taking the plastic bag out that i stuffed in the exhaust. . .
and tada,l
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 07:46:48 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 13, 2005, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: dgyverCopying theirs is not a problem but sourcing a tail light (for additional pieces) would be.i don't think that would be a problem...i've done some research and happen to find some...they all seem to have the correct diameter to fit the undertail i just installed.
i'm actually thinking about going with a led version.
http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=10549
targa also makes something similar...
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 08:08:47 PM
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 08:08:47 PM
hmmm...very interesting
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 08:21:06 PM
Post by: dolepineapple on January 13, 2005, 08:21:06 PM
very interesting indeed. . .
so it's official then,
if the undertail and hugger are the same disaster that JetSwing's
turned out to be (during installation, i mean). . .
i'll send it over to dgyver to use as a working model for a mold. . .
hey dgyver,
is a gptail basicially a new seat and cover to the passenger seat?
cheers,
joel
so it's official then,
if the undertail and hugger are the same disaster that JetSwing's
turned out to be (during installation, i mean). . .
i'll send it over to dgyver to use as a working model for a mold. . .
hey dgyver,
is a gptail basicially a new seat and cover to the passenger seat?
cheers,
joel
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 08:46:08 PM
Post by: dgyver on January 13, 2005, 08:46:08 PM
Quote from: dolepineapple
hey dgyver,
is a gptail basicially a new seat and cover to the passenger seat?
A gp tail is a minimal race seat/cowl. A single unit with little to no padding. Not really recommended for street riding due to lack of comfort. Actually this seat design is very comfortable on the track.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 13, 2005, 08:47:19 PM
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 13, 2005, 08:47:19 PM
ok... dgyver has the 01+ models covered... i've been biting my tongue for the past month or so, but this is what i was about to post last week...
i will be working on this over the next 3 - 6 weeks.
yes, photos will come as construction continues
i'm starting this weekend with a few cardboard templates, them next week moving the bike to another location for the oil clay portion.
catch will be... all parts will be unpainted!
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Quote from: pixelmonkey
i've seen enough about *looks good in the photos* followed by reports of being a job from hell to install!
so... this monkey is going to throw something together.
i have 3 GS500 bikes *as some of you know* sitting in my garage *cough*
i need to sell 2 of these bikes before April 15th , which leaves me a couple of months for the rebuild and modifications.
i also have several pounds of oil clay, and all required tools / skill / *time needed to build a direct bolt in undertail that looks similar to the brazilian export, bolts in like it's OEM, and doesnt cost $100 for shipping.
i will be working on this over the next 3 - 6 weeks.
yes, photos will come as construction continues
i'm starting this weekend with a few cardboard templates, them next week moving the bike to another location for the oil clay portion.
catch will be... all parts will be unpainted!
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: stefman722 on January 13, 2005, 09:38:22 PM
Post by: stefman722 on January 13, 2005, 09:38:22 PM
sweet
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: adamwade on January 14, 2005, 06:26:26 AM
Post by: adamwade on January 14, 2005, 06:26:26 AM
Dgyver,
Do you still need my '91 bike to use for the hugger mock-up? It's just sitting in my garage right now.
Do you still need my '91 bike to use for the hugger mock-up? It's just sitting in my garage right now.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on January 14, 2005, 06:58:44 AM
Post by: dgyver on January 14, 2005, 06:58:44 AM
I think I am ok for now. After buying all of JamesG's stuff, I have enough parts to set up a complete rearend to work from. Thanks for the offer.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 14, 2005, 07:51:17 AM
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 14, 2005, 07:51:17 AM
just to clarify, the mold i'm making will be for the 89-00 model. i dont have the 01 plastics YET, but hope to sometime over the summer. *i'm working on gathering the parts to update my bike.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on January 14, 2005, 08:09:53 AM
Post by: dolepineapple on January 14, 2005, 08:09:53 AM
damnit
everyone's forgetting about our beloved F model!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
it's ok
i'll see how my hugger/undertail looks when it comes in
cheers,
joel
everyone's forgetting about our beloved F model!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
it's ok
i'll see how my hugger/undertail looks when it comes in
cheers,
joel
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pprider on January 14, 2005, 09:01:46 AM
Post by: pprider on January 14, 2005, 09:01:46 AM
pfft who cares about the F :P just kidding...
i would seriously love that for my 91 GS mmmmmm make it!
how much would you be charging if you got the mold right ect?
i would seriously love that for my 91 GS mmmmmm make it!
how much would you be charging if you got the mold right ect?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 14, 2005, 09:52:59 AM
Post by: pixelmonkey on January 14, 2005, 09:52:59 AM
Quote from: ppriderpfft who cares about the F :P just kidding...
i would seriously love that for my 91 GS mmmmmm make it!
how much would you be charging if you got the mold right ect?
thats something i wont know until i have the first one complete. i'm thinking it will be around 20-30 in fiberglass. i want to make some $ for my time if i start doing these in a larger scale production.
i want to make them the same thickness as the current plastic, so durability wont be a factor. as for fit, i know it's going to take a while for me to get the mold perfect, but i want it to be a direct bolt in *like the brazil kit is supposed to be*. from the photos, the only thing i can see that might change is the location of the tool kit.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on January 14, 2005, 10:29:36 AM
Post by: fettcols on January 14, 2005, 10:29:36 AM
Is there a spot for the tool kit in the Brazil undertail?
fett
fett
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: stefman722 on January 14, 2005, 12:03:26 PM
Post by: stefman722 on January 14, 2005, 12:03:26 PM
Quote from: dolepineappledamnit
everyone's forgetting about our beloved F model!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
it's ok
i'll see how my hugger/undertail looks when it comes in
cheers,
joel
Airbrush is going to make a hugger for us. Patience is a virtue.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on January 14, 2005, 12:24:26 PM
Post by: JetSwing on January 14, 2005, 12:24:26 PM
Quote from: fettcolsIs there a spot for the tool kit in the Brazil undertail?actually, under the seat, it looks alot like the stock...i'm assuming they had used the stock undertail as a template.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 04, 2005, 05:46:22 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 04, 2005, 05:46:22 PM
How are the projects coming along?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 04, 2005, 08:08:35 PM
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 04, 2005, 08:08:35 PM
the 89 to 00 undertail is at a stand still until i have the valves adjusted on the bikes... i'm thinking the kit will be in any day now.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 09, 2005, 08:14:43 AM
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 09, 2005, 08:14:43 AM
just to let you know i'm not letting it sit...
working on it more tonight.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
working on it more tonight.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: Jake D on February 09, 2005, 10:33:47 AM
Post by: Jake D on February 09, 2005, 10:33:47 AM
I lay awake last night trying to figure out how to make a solo seat cowl for my '89 GS.
So. . . let me pick your brain, Pixelmonkey. . . What are you making that mold out of? Is oil clay the only thing you can make a master with? Styrofoam?
Let me know how it goes and keep this thread alive! I'm super interested and spend my money in all the wrong places.
So. . . let me pick your brain, Pixelmonkey. . . What are you making that mold out of? Is oil clay the only thing you can make a master with? Styrofoam?
Let me know how it goes and keep this thread alive! I'm super interested and spend my money in all the wrong places.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 10, 2005, 02:47:59 PM
Post by: pixelmonkey on February 10, 2005, 02:47:59 PM
i'm starting with a poster board for the undertail, making cuts where the dent will be for the rear tire / hugger.
for the sides, it's a styrofoam base with oil clay on top. photos will be coming this weekend.
as for the mold, i'm split on what to use at the moment. some have suggested plaster, other have suggested resen and fiberglass for the reverse mold with bridges for support so the mold doesnt change form after it's removed from the clay.
i want to finish the layout first... then work on the rest.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
for the sides, it's a styrofoam base with oil clay on top. photos will be coming this weekend.
as for the mold, i'm split on what to use at the moment. some have suggested plaster, other have suggested resen and fiberglass for the reverse mold with bridges for support so the mold doesnt change form after it's removed from the clay.
i want to finish the layout first... then work on the rest.
chris<pixelmonkey>:D
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dgyver on February 10, 2005, 02:59:00 PM
Post by: dgyver on February 10, 2005, 02:59:00 PM
A master can be made out of most any material...wood, styrofoam, plaster, plexiglass, clay, spray foam, card board....
Epoxy resins are better to use than polyester resins. The mold should be a reverse of the part. Avoid die-locks in the mold design. If this happens then a 2-piece mold is needed. Don't forget about the mold release. Vacuum bagging is a must.
Do a search on the web and you find a lot of info on this.
Epoxy resins are better to use than polyester resins. The mold should be a reverse of the part. Avoid die-locks in the mold design. If this happens then a 2-piece mold is needed. Don't forget about the mold release. Vacuum bagging is a must.
Do a search on the web and you find a lot of info on this.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 10, 2005, 08:27:12 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 10, 2005, 08:27:12 PM
I ordered one from Brazil today... Hope it turns out well, maybe they got some practice in when making/painting the last two...
fett
fett
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 10, 2005, 11:40:36 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 10, 2005, 11:40:36 PM
cool...keep us posted!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 11, 2005, 04:01:46 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 11, 2005, 04:01:46 PM
When I ordered the parts I asked Joe to make sure they're painted on both sides.. I guess the shop was closed for a week because of Carnival..
Sounds like a good time to be in Brazil...
The current ad on ebay said LED tail light... was your's an LED?
fett
Sounds like a good time to be in Brazil...
The current ad on ebay said LED tail light... was your's an LED?
fett
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: reidrock on February 11, 2005, 04:41:09 PM
Post by: reidrock on February 11, 2005, 04:41:09 PM
i have a gs500f 2004 an i would like an undertail for it where can i get one email me please lloydr@eastlink.ca
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 11, 2005, 06:22:05 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 11, 2005, 06:22:05 PM
Quote from: fettcolsThe current ad on ebay said LED tail light... was your's an LED?apparently they don't know what "LED" light mean...trust me you won't get a led light.
i'll probably order one of these this weekend...
http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/store/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=18950
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 13, 2005, 06:53:01 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 13, 2005, 06:53:01 PM
$85... I imagine that's for a pair... Let me know how it turns out for you..
I don't know what I'm going to do for a license plate lamp.. probably something pretty ghetto...
I don't know what I'm going to do for a license plate lamp.. probably something pretty ghetto...
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 13, 2005, 07:23:29 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 13, 2005, 07:23:29 PM
Quote from: fettcols$85... I imagine that's for a pair... Let me know how it turns out for you..
I don't know what I'm going to do for a license plate lamp.. probably something pretty ghetto...
yea, they're sold in pairs...with 10% off, it should be around $85 shipped. it's not too bad for a pair of led tail lights.
as for the license plate lighting...
http://www.targa-acc.com/cgi-bin/products.cgi?name=upc_code&value=07-610W&format=3
http://www.targa-acc.com/cgi-bin/products.cgi?name=upc_code&value=07-7000W&format=3
i also like one of those led bolts...
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 14, 2005, 03:24:41 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 14, 2005, 03:24:41 PM
I was figuring one of those led bolts... but I like that second one..
How long did it take to receive your parts from them?
Has anyone asked them about some of the fancy exhaust systems that are on their display bikes?
How long did it take to receive your parts from them?
Has anyone asked them about some of the fancy exhaust systems that are on their display bikes?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 14, 2005, 05:27:43 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 14, 2005, 05:27:43 PM
Quote from: fettcolsHow long did it take to receive your parts from them?it wasn't a too long of wait...i want to say less than 3 weeks
Title: hmmm
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:40:25 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:40:25 PM
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:43:05 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:43:05 PM
I hope that clears things up and resets confidence in those interested in this kit--
On a side note im not validating whos right or wrong in this little ordeal, but I hope it sets some minds at ease on their purchase decision
On a side note im not validating whos right or wrong in this little ordeal, but I hope it sets some minds at ease on their purchase decision
Title: btw check out my new gs500f!!!
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:46:24 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 07:46:24 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v425/qlogic/NC2.jpg)
I picked it up still under warrenty with 500 miles for $3300 what do you guys think?
I picked it up still under warrenty with 500 miles for $3300 what do you guys think?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 27, 2005, 08:06:02 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 27, 2005, 08:06:02 PM
Quote from: '04gs500fI hope that clears things up and resets confidence in those interested in this kit--i just told it the way is was, nothing more nothing less. if they want to talk about how they f%&ked up the order my sending me someone else's order, that's fine. but that only shows how incompetent they are. it's not even like they're processing hundreds of these undertails...
On a side note im not validating whos right or wrong in this little ordeal, but I hope it sets some minds at ease on their purchase decision
but it still doesn't explain how everything didn't fit. i don't really care for them solving problems after the fact. if they were located in the states, i would have returned it for sure. my point is...make sure everything fits BEFORE selling the product. i just want a better product for our gs...
like i've mentioned in my review, even with more than expected work involved for the installation, you should get it if you don't mind some extra elbow grease.
unless they've changed something drastically, you'll have more or less same problems i had encountered.
anyway, i wasn't sure if they would but sounds like they've read the thread (i'm glad). if you do get one, tell us how it works out!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 08:12:29 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 08:12:29 PM
Yes it does seem like they have cleaned up a bit but you never know, when i decide on ordering i will be sure to let everyone know how easy/hard it was to install. And a side note if it doesnt fit and it would require me to dremil im going to send it back and get my money back. I always have the option of sawing away my back fender up to the tool box portion poking out and getting a nice integrater kit for my back light and it will still look great.
PS
The review was topnotch regardless with attention to detail ;)
Thanks
Alex
PS
The review was topnotch regardless with attention to detail ;)
Thanks
Alex
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 08:15:52 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on February 27, 2005, 08:15:52 PM
http://www.shopserv3.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=CA&Product_Code=CTL-0026-2-IT&Category_Code=GS500
the taillight kit that i may consider as an alternate option and more chopping off of the rear fender
the taillight kit that i may consider as an alternate option and more chopping off of the rear fender
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: dolepineapple on February 28, 2005, 09:44:57 AM
Post by: dolepineapple on February 28, 2005, 09:44:57 AM
whoa
i thought this thread died
guess not!
i'm still gonna wait until it gets warmer to paint the parts and try to install them
i'll keep everyone posted
i thought this thread died
guess not!
i'm still gonna wait until it gets warmer to paint the parts and try to install them
i'll keep everyone posted
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 28, 2005, 10:49:56 AM
Post by: fettcols on February 28, 2005, 10:49:56 AM
I received mine the other day but haven't installed. I ordered the LED lights that jetswing linked earlier in the thread, I figure when they come in I'll get to work on putting it together. I wanted to wait until the parts came in to measure the openings for the lights. (wish I had the spec's from one of those R1 lights) It looks like I'll have about 1/8 inch around the lens to hide.
I have a blue and white 500f and the white doesn't match up to well. Due to the fact the white tail section is fitted to the undertail and the paint doesn't match I might just have the whole tail/undertail painted blue adding to the whole expense of the project.
Just looking at the parts I think the taillight included is crap and should be discarded before the part is shipped. As for the fiberglass it's not the best I've seen but not bad. I'm sure if I tried to make it myself I would have spent at least the $250 in trial and error let alone the paint.
I have a good feeling about the parts. If it all fits without too much work (or duct tape) I'll give it a big :thumb:
I have a blue and white 500f and the white doesn't match up to well. Due to the fact the white tail section is fitted to the undertail and the paint doesn't match I might just have the whole tail/undertail painted blue adding to the whole expense of the project.
Just looking at the parts I think the taillight included is crap and should be discarded before the part is shipped. As for the fiberglass it's not the best I've seen but not bad. I'm sure if I tried to make it myself I would have spent at least the $250 in trial and error let alone the paint.
I have a good feeling about the parts. If it all fits without too much work (or duct tape) I'll give it a big :thumb:
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 28, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 28, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
which lights did you get? the ones from 2wheeljunkies were too small!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on February 28, 2005, 02:17:50 PM
Post by: fettcols on February 28, 2005, 02:17:50 PM
Uhhh... I bought the ones from 2wheeljunkie... :dunno:
For sale, Two LED lights from 2wheeljunkie...
I measured the opening and figured there would be an 1/8 inch on all sides of the light, I was thinking of building a bracket to hold the lights and rubber to seal them from the elements.
Or of course I'll be throwing some money away on trial and error.
I was also looking into adding LED bulbs to the light that was included but I like the idea of yellow signals.
For sale, Two LED lights from 2wheeljunkie...
I measured the opening and figured there would be an 1/8 inch on all sides of the light, I was thinking of building a bracket to hold the lights and rubber to seal them from the elements.
Or of course I'll be throwing some money away on trial and error.
I was also looking into adding LED bulbs to the light that was included but I like the idea of yellow signals.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on February 28, 2005, 05:01:26 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 28, 2005, 05:01:26 PM
haha...two led lights for sale here too :mrgreen:
i don't know...the measurement roughly matched but when i actually tried on the light, there was just too much gap around the light for it to work...give it a shot with rubber gaskets. :dunno:
yea, i definitely want integrated lights.
i don't know...the measurement roughly matched but when i actually tried on the light, there was just too much gap around the light for it to work...give it a shot with rubber gaskets. :dunno:
yea, i definitely want integrated lights.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 01, 2005, 04:42:36 AM
Post by: fettcols on March 01, 2005, 04:42:36 AM
Didn't somebody here have an older R1 light? Commuterguy or Indestructableman? I get those two confused...
The R1 kind of looks the same, maybe we can get some measurements.
The R1 kind of looks the same, maybe we can get some measurements.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 07, 2005, 02:27:23 PM
Post by: fettcols on March 07, 2005, 02:27:23 PM
Okay... I'm going to make the LED lights from 2wheeljunkie work.. I've made a mouting panel out of plexiglass and have them centered into the light openings... I picked plexiglass because it's easy to work with and I had some laying around..
Jetswing, could you post some pictures of your dremel work? I figure the tabs at the rear have to be removed was there anything else?
Jetswing, could you post some pictures of your dremel work? I figure the tabs at the rear have to be removed was there anything else?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on March 09, 2005, 07:57:29 PM
Post by: JetSwing on March 09, 2005, 07:57:29 PM
you can kind of see how much i shaved off...was too furious that i didn't take any before and after pictures during the installation. all the tabs gotta go if you want a smoother fit. you also have to drill the holes.
let me know how the LED lights work out.
(http://www.gleamers.org/gs500/tail_01.jpg)
let me know how the LED lights work out.
(http://www.gleamers.org/gs500/tail_01.jpg)
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 12, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
Post by: fettcols on March 12, 2005, 03:35:02 PM
This has got to be the worst fitting part I've come across yet!
The hugger fits nicely but the undertail is a disaster.
Nice paint match!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0022.jpg)(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0020.jpg)
I'm almost tempted to try and make my own!
Anybody know where to find some good info on making molds and fiberglassing for dummies?
The hugger fits nicely but the undertail is a disaster.
Nice paint match!
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0022.jpg)(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0020.jpg)
I'm almost tempted to try and make my own!
Anybody know where to find some good info on making molds and fiberglassing for dummies?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on March 12, 2005, 05:48:19 PM
Post by: JetSwing on March 12, 2005, 05:48:19 PM
oooh...that's just sucks. sorry it didn't go any better for you. at least you didn't had to stuggle witht he hugger. mine is still all crooked. :x
hey, if you still plan to finish out the installation (i think you should) just grind the body panel edges...you'll get a better fit.
have you even bothered with the tail light assembly yet? i'm just wondering if the light housing fits inside the frame without having to grind the side of the housing off. a fabricated part not fitting very well is one thing...knowingly selling part that doesn't fit, without any disclaimer, is total bull!
hey, if you still plan to finish out the installation (i think you should) just grind the body panel edges...you'll get a better fit.
have you even bothered with the tail light assembly yet? i'm just wondering if the light housing fits inside the frame without having to grind the side of the housing off. a fabricated part not fitting very well is one thing...knowingly selling part that doesn't fit, without any disclaimer, is total bull!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: stefman722 on March 12, 2005, 07:37:32 PM
Post by: stefman722 on March 12, 2005, 07:37:32 PM
Did anyone make a hugger yet?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 13, 2005, 04:55:23 AM
Post by: fettcols on March 13, 2005, 04:55:23 AM
I didn't even mess with the tail light included... I made a mounting bracket that centers the 2wheeljunkie lights insided the undertail... it looks pretty slick with those lights.
I think I'm going to give myself two weeks to try and make my own, if it's a disaster or looks ghetto I'll work with the aluizio part. It appears that after the first test fitting (the photos above) that the parts are going to have to be painted anyway so maybe I should paint my own version.
I think I'm going to give myself two weeks to try and make my own, if it's a disaster or looks ghetto I'll work with the aluizio part. It appears that after the first test fitting (the photos above) that the parts are going to have to be painted anyway so maybe I should paint my own version.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 24, 2005, 07:31:59 AM
Post by: fettcols on March 24, 2005, 07:31:59 AM
Here is the undertail with the 2wheeljunkie lights. I started to make my own version but after getting started I discovered it would take too long. I don't want to spend half of season playing with fiberglass. Maybe next winter I'll fool around with it again (or buy a ducati).
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0071.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0070.jpg)
Well I'm off to get this thing painted blue to match the rest of the bike.
Hey dole, did you get yours together yet?
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0071.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/DSCF0070.jpg)
Well I'm off to get this thing painted blue to match the rest of the bike.
Hey dole, did you get yours together yet?
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: Susuki_Jah on March 24, 2005, 08:47:09 AM
Post by: Susuki_Jah on March 24, 2005, 08:47:09 AM
looks super sweet man!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: tdan553527 on March 24, 2005, 08:57:35 AM
Post by: tdan553527 on March 24, 2005, 08:57:35 AM
Yea, I like the way it looks also. I just got a CBR 600 RR rear fairing and plan on making it work and then maybe an undertail exhaust.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: sprint_9 on March 24, 2005, 10:35:42 AM
Post by: sprint_9 on March 24, 2005, 10:35:42 AM
That thing looks cool but the fit and finish is horrible.
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on March 24, 2005, 06:39:25 PM
Post by: JetSwing on March 24, 2005, 06:39:25 PM
hey, it looks nice...are the tail light bright enough? i was working on them to fit the undertail past weekend. but i'm getting ready for a road trip so i'm holding it off till later.
have you drilled the holes yet? if not, you might want to do that before getting them painted.
and where's the hugger??
have you drilled the holes yet? if not, you might want to do that before getting them painted.
and where's the hugger??
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on March 25, 2005, 11:45:37 AM
Post by: fettcols on March 25, 2005, 11:45:37 AM
I haven't hooked up the wiring for the lights... I'm going to probably get the hugger painted as well. By buddy wasn't at the shop yesterday so the painting process hasn't started.
I'll probably get started on the exhaust and filter and truck it over to the shop to be rejeted while the parts are getting painted...
Then it's on to the '89 clip-on's
I'll probably get started on the exhaust and filter and truck it over to the shop to be rejeted while the parts are getting painted...
Then it's on to the '89 clip-on's
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on March 25, 2005, 12:57:43 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on March 25, 2005, 12:57:43 PM
good thing i didnt order, this company just cant seem to get it right *sigh* how hard is it to test fit a product before you sell it!?!? i mean they have gs500s on sight!!!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: suzukimad on March 25, 2005, 01:03:49 PM
Post by: suzukimad on March 25, 2005, 01:03:49 PM
Do you think the undertails was made for a bandit,or gsxr or a sv,?
just a thought :dunno:
:cheers: Tony
just a thought :dunno:
:cheers: Tony
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on March 25, 2005, 02:13:35 PM
Post by: '04gs500f on March 25, 2005, 02:13:35 PM
maybe i will reasearch mold making and see what i can come up with
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: Sean on March 26, 2005, 10:30:01 AM
Post by: Sean on March 26, 2005, 10:30:01 AM
I thought when I first fitted my hugger it was a little twisted. :dunno:
But the chainguard spoilt it for me, so...
http://www.gs500e.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2226&highlight=hugger
8) :) Now I'm happy!
But the chainguard spoilt it for me, so...
http://www.gs500e.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2226&highlight=hugger
8) :) Now I'm happy!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on April 25, 2005, 05:22:05 AM
Post by: fettcols on April 25, 2005, 05:22:05 AM
Just when you thought the post was dead...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/together1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/together2.jpg)
I'll have to work on some better photos...
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/together1.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y29/fettcols/together2.jpg)
I'll have to work on some better photos...
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: '04gs500f on April 25, 2005, 08:35:41 AM
Post by: '04gs500f on April 25, 2005, 08:35:41 AM
eww your photos are just as fuzzy as the company's undertail photos ;)
trying to keep us from seeing crappy fit!?
huh!?
confess!!!!!
trying to keep us from seeing crappy fit!?
huh!?
confess!!!!!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: fettcols on April 25, 2005, 08:56:36 AM
Post by: fettcols on April 25, 2005, 08:56:36 AM
The fuzzy photos are for a reason... It's pretty dirty and I didn't feel like getting out the good camera.. Surprised nobody mentioned the lack of a front fender... It's installed now and it's painted blue to match. When the bike gets back from being jetted I'll take some real photos...
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: JetSwing on April 25, 2005, 09:55:14 AM
Post by: JetSwing on April 25, 2005, 09:55:14 AM
ummm...maybe the undertail looks better blurry :mrgreen:
anyway the paint job looks great. get us better pictures!
anyway the paint job looks great. get us better pictures!
Title: 2001+ Undertail Mod: Reviewed
Post by: Mk1inCali on April 25, 2005, 06:01:36 PM
Post by: Mk1inCali on April 25, 2005, 06:01:36 PM
With that huge fairing in the way, no wonder nobody mentioned the lack of the front fender!
All joking aside, looks good. Hose 'er down and let us see the gory (sp?) details.
All joking aside, looks good. Hose 'er down and let us see the gory (sp?) details.