#37.5 bleed-type pilots...they stink...so far... I pulled the stock carbs off of my perfectly running GS, switched out the pilots, and when I tried to run it the revs were slow to return to idle.
Ok, so what could be the problem? I checked the float heights, they were fine. I checked for sticky throttle and choke cables, both fine. I checked for a good seal at the intake...fine, fine, fine... So, before I switch back to the stock pilots what are some other things I should check or adjust. Air mix? That's all I can think of. BTW, I am doing all of the testing with a temp tank.
Yup air screw out 1/4 turn or less ... however depends on your definition of "slow" ... just a hair slow or stop watch slow or calendar slow ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Let's put it this way... I had to clip my fingernails twice in the time it took for the revs to drop. Ok...I tested with the stock pilots in just to make sure I wasn't crazy...everything ran great...but I'm still crazy. :thumb:
Thanks. I'll take another swing at it.
So 10 seconds or so to drop right ... OK 37.5 bleed and add 1/4 turn to mix screws ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Hmmm, still slow. I've tried 1/8, 1/4, 3/8, 1/2, 1.... :dunno:
Dom ... you are supposed to add 1/4 turn to wherever you have it left ... not 1/4 from 0 ... if you had it at 3 it should be 3 and 1/4 ...
Cool.
Srinath.
I know... :roll: Let me clarify... 3-1/8 turns, 3-1/4 turns, and so on, and so forth... :dunno: still nothing but a retarted rev party...
OK check if your choke is closing fully, check for synch ... or other air leaks ... the 3K sounds wrong ... it will move one way or another ... of course start closing the air screw and see if that makes it worse ... atleast you know the air screw works then ...
Cool.
Srinath.
It got better as I turned it out but at 4 turns it still was still slow and then would hover at around 3000. So I turned the idle down to around 1300 and then it would just stall.
How do I check carb synch? Pretty sure no leaks...I tested it with stock pilots and everything ran great.
OK you are improvng at 4 ... i'd worry if its near 5 ... 4 is OK but you stll have more to open ... and the thing wasn't getting that much better that fast right ... OK check your floats again ... and up to top of bowl ...
if that also fails ... well then put the 40's back and we drop the 37.5 bleeds from our bag of tricks ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Ok, I'll try one more time...I'll move in increments of 1/4 turn all the way to 5 turns out.
I never had #40 non-bleeds...I couldn't find them anywhere... that's why I bought the 37.5 bleeders. Do you think I should try #35 bleeders?
Great sounds like Im in for all sorts of fun. What about 40 bleeders? Do you think your lean or rich?
OK Dom you have a bike that runs perfect with 40 bleeds ... of course 37.5 bleeds will make it bad ... Something is off ... in advertently when you got it tuned with 40 bleeds you set it so that it worked right. Now that is in reality possible by making changes to float level or somehting ... and not having an issue ... but well lets start at the begining ...
If anyhting 37.5 bleeds are lean ... your 40 bleeds should have been over rich down low, but you set some else to compensate for it ...
Ok with 40 bleeds did the bike do anyhting funky under any situation ...
Start with that ... maybe you have it off somewhere.
Synch ... take off the carbs and look at the butterflies through the slides ... AKA back to front ... then set the 2 butterflies to be open the same amount ... look at some bright object and set the light level through each equally ...
Cool.
Srinath.
I've never had #40 pilots...bleed(B) or non-bleed(NB)..ok maybe I tried some #40B type a couple months back but never went very far with them...gave up and put the stock back in...that's what my bike runs perfect with...stock 37.5NB no little 8 holes.
OK so I tried her up to 4 turns out and the rpms kind of hover at around 3000 and then drop off after like 10 seconds.
So I try to set the idle and it won't idle at 1300 at all...it will idle at around 1750 or so. Too high for me.
I know that the carbs are synched...I screwed them all the way in and reset them at 3 turns out.
I also tested the floats and they the fuel level is right at the gasket...the 37.5Bs do change the float height at all.
:dunno:
OK you got it perfect with 37.5 non bleed's and find the 37.5 bleeds are too lean ... OK that's new for me ... either case you should drop the bleed ones and stay with 37.5 non bleeds ... The bleeds are supposed to be richer than non bleeds ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Ok so if non bleeds are richer, maybe the #35 bleeders are the same as #40 non bleed...I'll be the guinea pig...I don't care...anything for the pursuit of knowledge, right?
What do you think?
Sounds to me like your lean if the idle hangs up and slowly comes down, but it shouldnt be that far off if the stockers are the same size. Something is messed up, maybe the bleeders do change something.
No Dom you are getting signs of being lean ... Though I can believe that you have no effect of air screw fromt 3 to almost 4 turns out ...
Well try 40 bleed's if you must not the 35 ...
Cool.
Srinath.
I could tell you how the 40's work in a month or two, lol. What do you have on for a pipe Dom, I know you have K&N's but Im not sure what you have on for a pipe.
WileyCo.
4 turns out did nothing. I'm putting the stockers back in right now...I'm sure everything will be hunky dory. Well see...
What is the part number for 40 non-bleeders?
I don't know what the part # is. Nowhere I've been even carries them...they might be discontinued.
Well, I have the stockers back in and the damn thing runs like a champ again. Good... because I'm at my shop right now and I want to go home. :lol:
So it sounded lean, eh? Maybe I ought to dig around and see if I can find those #40 bleeders I bought way back when.
:cheers:
40 non bleeds Tucker rocky part number is 42-7130. pack of 4 only.
Cool.
Srinath.
Do you have some of those for sale Srinath?
Ditto. :mrgreen:
OK You want 2 a set of pilots each ... I'll get some and send it out ... like I did last week ...
It cost $3.15 each with tax and mailing was 60 cents I think ... so make it say $7 even ... of course, Sprint9 Your bars are going to get added to the shipment ... Lemme order it if you guys wnat it ... I have 2 now but they need to go in the guy's carbs that showed up today ... early next week I'll get them and send out I think ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Yea I dont even want to piss with the bleeders so you can just send me some when you get my bars done. PM me or post on here whenever that is and Ill get you paid.
Srinath, do you want my 37.5 bleeders to see if you can make them work?
I had some 37.5 bleeders I got to work last year ... forgot what I did to it ... somehting simple I am sure ...
Anyway you want pilots too ... I have to order them ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Sure I'll take some, tell me your Paypal address again.
Please send me check or something ... $7 ... anyway paypal is seshadri_srinath@hotmail.com ... they prolly take like 50 cents ... so maybe the same as cost of stamp+envelope+pain of mailing ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Money sent. :thumb:
Be sure to set two aside for me too, just didnt want you to forget about me. :cheers:
$0.28 is 4% of $7 so it is officially cheaper than sending it with a stamp if sent it via snail mail. The $0.28 is the PayPal transaction fee. I'm a big nerd for calculating that.
Yea smart ass ... big nerd ... but its not always 4% ... someone once told me he sent like 250 and they only took $6-7 ... now for $50 they take about $2 ... for $10 they ate like 70 cents If I remember ... so I am guessing they eat a larger percentage if you send less ... now gimme 1 sec ...
They took 52 cents from the $7.50 leaving me 6.98 ... Good ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Damn sliding scale...
The last time I checked, if your PayPal account is set up to accept credit card payments they skim off $.30 + 2.9% of the total.
those bastards... i went through so much crap to get my paypal acct workin up to order again. i dont even know how it works anymore.. u know how there is three accounts u can sign up for? personal, premier, and business. well here is the link anyway..
https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_registration-run#
(click low fees under premier account)
my question is what is the difference between revieving funds and withdrawing funds?
btw lemme know if the link doesnt work
"Receiving funds" is when your PayPal balance goes up because someone sent you money.
"Withdrawing Funds" is when you tell PayPal to transfer some of that balance to you in some way, usually straight to your bank account.