Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 05:58:32 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 05:58:32 PM
anyway i can remove my chain without taking off the rear wheel or cutting the chain?
I need to remove it to completely soak it in motor oil to remove a kink...
I need to remove it to completely soak it in motor oil to remove a kink...
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: GRU on February 07, 2005, 06:02:49 PM
Post by: GRU on February 07, 2005, 06:02:49 PM
there is a couple ways....most of the time you will have to remove the wheel and swingarm, but if you can find the master ling and dremel the edges, then slide it out....when you're finished you would just buy a new master link...if your chain has a "clipon" style master link then you can do it in no time
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:04:16 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:04:16 PM
Take out the master link. Put the bike on the center stand and spin the wheel in neutral until you find the master link on the chain. Pry off the retainer clip and slide the link out. It might take a little coaxing but you'll get it in time. :cheers:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:07:35 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:07:35 PM
Hmm, didn't know there were chains without master links. :dunno:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: werase643 on February 07, 2005, 06:18:48 PM
Post by: werase643 on February 07, 2005, 06:18:48 PM
if it is a stock chain... there is no master link
4.5 inch angle grinder with a cut off wheel....is easiest and fastest
4.5 inch angle grinder with a cut off wheel....is easiest and fastest
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:22:29 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:22:29 PM
it's stock chain...
so there's no way of removing chain without splitting the chain in half?
so there's no way of removing chain without splitting the chain in half?
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: cummuterguy on February 07, 2005, 06:24:19 PM
Post by: cummuterguy on February 07, 2005, 06:24:19 PM
yeah, what wera says... just buy a new masterlink to put in place of the link you grind off... but really, chains arent too expensive, why not just get a new one while your fighting with it?
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:27:49 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:27:49 PM
chains ARE expensive...after installation and everything...it comes to around 150 bucks...
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: werase643 on February 07, 2005, 06:37:43 PM
Post by: werase643 on February 07, 2005, 06:37:43 PM
i paid 40 for the one on my SV....could have got the o-ring for 75.....
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:40:42 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:40:42 PM
I see chains on Ebay all the time for around $50. Ten minutes install time and $50 bucks ain't too bad.
Around here we call the Suzuki dealers "stealers". They wanted $250 to jet my bike. I spent $20 dollars in parts and a few hours trying to sort out an unforseeable and uncommon petcock problem but now I can rejet carbs in under 15 minutes. What do you think is a better deal? Getting ripped off and remaining clueless, or putting in a few hours and learning something, and at the same time saving yourself boatloads of cash. :dunno:
Around here we call the Suzuki dealers "stealers". They wanted $250 to jet my bike. I spent $20 dollars in parts and a few hours trying to sort out an unforseeable and uncommon petcock problem but now I can rejet carbs in under 15 minutes. What do you think is a better deal? Getting ripped off and remaining clueless, or putting in a few hours and learning something, and at the same time saving yourself boatloads of cash. :dunno:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:48:50 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 06:48:50 PM
ebay chains are no name chains...
i want DID...or at least some good quality name brand chains...and they usu cost more than 100 bucks...
i want DID...or at least some good quality name brand chains...and they usu cost more than 100 bucks...
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:55:48 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 06:55:48 PM
Are the x-ring really that much better? They make alot of claims on their website but is it all hype? They say half of the power loss of an O-ring but I find that really hard to believe... what does that mean anyway? Extra horses? How many?
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: JetSwing on February 07, 2005, 07:15:09 PM
Post by: JetSwing on February 07, 2005, 07:15:09 PM
Quote from: Frostebay chains are no name chains...
i want DID...or at least some good quality name brand chains...and they usu cost more than 100 bucks...
the stock can't be much better... :dunno:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Ed89 on February 07, 2005, 07:53:51 PM
Post by: Ed89 on February 07, 2005, 07:53:51 PM
I don't know if it is worth trying to fix it once it is already sticky on one link. Chances are that other links will freeze soon as well. DIY is not hard at all--probably less time than to clean the chain. However, the general advise is to replace the front sprocket as well if you get a new chain.
I did mine not long ago, replaced my old chain (multiple frozen links, made funny noises all the time :) ) with an X-ring (Parts Unlimited, about $60). Night and day.
Check out Kerry's chain list (http://www.bbburma.net/Documents/GS500_Chains&Sprockets.txt).
Cheers,
e.
I did mine not long ago, replaced my old chain (multiple frozen links, made funny noises all the time :) ) with an X-ring (Parts Unlimited, about $60). Night and day.
Check out Kerry's chain list (http://www.bbburma.net/Documents/GS500_Chains&Sprockets.txt).
Cheers,
e.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: cummuterguy on February 07, 2005, 08:14:34 PM
Post by: cummuterguy on February 07, 2005, 08:14:34 PM
you can get DID chains on ebay also... i got an x-ring chain for $65 shipped . Just gotta keep your eyes peeled for them... you are looking for a 520-110 link x-ring.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:24:26 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:24:26 PM
thanks...i'll keep an eye out...
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 08:36:00 PM
On Ebay: DID 520VM X-Ring Motorcycle Chain *Brand New* (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4524180343&category=35600) $82, Buy It Now
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:45:10 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:45:10 PM
is that good??
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:47:18 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 08:47:18 PM
how 'bout this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35600&item=4524180337&rd=1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35600&item=4524180337&rd=1
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:00:45 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:00:45 PM
That's 120 links and it's a good deal. Do you have a chain breaker? Here's a cheap one that will do #520 chains. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46092&item=4524545918&rd=1)
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/56/52/07_1_b.JPG)
(http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/03/56/52/07_1_b.JPG)
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: sprint_9 on February 07, 2005, 09:07:59 PM
Post by: sprint_9 on February 07, 2005, 09:07:59 PM
Take a hack saw to your stocker. Worked for me. I got a RK XSO 520 / 120 chain off ebay last week for $52 shipped, so look around when you get one, it took me awhile to find that deal though.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:10:20 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:10:20 PM
OK, I checked. That is the right chain. I thought it might have been the 520VT which is a #520 chain but it is rated for 250cc dirt bikes. You might still need the chain breaker though....unless werase knows a way to break 'em on a bench vice or whatever. :mrgreen:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 09:19:01 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 09:19:01 PM
chain breakers are so expensive...
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:20:38 PM
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:20:38 PM
Quote from: Frosthow 'bout this:You didn't check my Chains & Sprockets listing like Ed89 said ... didya. :roll:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=35600&item=4524180337&rd=1
Chaparral sells the same chain for $57.20. In fact, that's the same replacement chain that I put on my bike:
Granted, they're not immediately available from Chaparral, but they ship in 2 to 5 days. You might want to "Buy It Now" for a couple dollars extra and get it sooner.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:26:16 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:26:16 PM
...and you wouldn't have to get the chain breaker either.
I mean, you could buy one at your local cycle shop but they would proly charge you an arm and a leg for it...some cnc machined anodized purple piece of crap that does the same job as the one I showed you. Then again...alot of cheap deals come up on Ebay and it might come in handy in the future. You might be able to drive a pin out by some other means but they are really easy to kink and really should come straight out the box and onto the bike.
I mean, you could buy one at your local cycle shop but they would proly charge you an arm and a leg for it...some cnc machined anodized purple piece of crap that does the same job as the one I showed you. Then again...alot of cheap deals come up on Ebay and it might come in handy in the future. You might be able to drive a pin out by some other means but they are really easy to kink and really should come straight out the box and onto the bike.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:34:59 PM
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:34:59 PM
Frost, take a look through the Cant figure out how to remove old chain. HElP? (http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11925) thread.
It may help to illustrate what has already been said about Dremels and angle grinders.
It may help to illustrate what has already been said about Dremels and angle grinders.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:39:51 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 09:39:51 PM
Quote from: Frostchain breakers are so expensive...
Is $16 expensive? :dunno:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:53:07 PM
Post by: Kerry on February 07, 2005, 09:53:07 PM
Quote from: DomNaw, but you can put a Dremel to SO many more uses! :) J/KQuote from: Frostchain breakers are so expensive...Is $16 expensive? :dunno:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 09:57:12 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 09:57:12 PM
16 dollars? where?...
what's a dremel used for?
what's a dremel used for?
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:03:15 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:03:15 PM
What was that quote? You can lead a horse to a tequila bar... :dunno:
16$...look at the 2nd ebay link I showed you, on the 1st page of this thread.
But Kerry is right. Chain breakers are overkill. I'm a little slow sometimes. :lol:
What is the Dremel for. Read the second thread that Kerry showed you, the one about removing a chain. :thumb: You would use it to shorten 120 link chain that you might buy off Ebay.
16$...look at the 2nd ebay link I showed you, on the 1st page of this thread.
But Kerry is right. Chain breakers are overkill. I'm a little slow sometimes. :lol:
What is the Dremel for. Read the second thread that Kerry showed you, the one about removing a chain. :thumb: You would use it to shorten 120 link chain that you might buy off Ebay.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:12:54 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:12:54 PM
wow...now i feel stupid...
if i dont' have any kind of vice grips or clamps...is the only way of clipping the clip on is with a chain breaker?
if i dont' have any kind of vice grips or clamps...is the only way of clipping the clip on is with a chain breaker?
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:16:35 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:16:35 PM
No. The chain breaker is used only for removing those little pins that hold the links together. You clamp it on the side of the chain and twist the top handle until the pin just pops out.
You can probably get that clip on with a pair of $4 pliers from Safeway just might take a little work. Vice grips or Channel-Locks just give you a little better leverage so you don't have to squeeze as hard.
You can probably get that clip on with a pair of $4 pliers from Safeway just might take a little work. Vice grips or Channel-Locks just give you a little better leverage so you don't have to squeeze as hard.
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:20:37 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:20:37 PM
so you're saying that all i need to change a chain is:
dremel
chain breaker
pilers (for putting clip on)
then what's a chain breaker KIT for???
dremel
chain breaker
pilers (for putting clip on)
then what's a chain breaker KIT for???
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:31:28 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:31:28 PM
No chain-breaker required. You would be using the dremel instead of the chain-breaker.
A chain-breaker kit...I suppose it is for riviting the master-link on. There are two different types of master-links: the rivit-type and the clip-type. The kit would include both a chain-breaker and everything that you would need to rivit the rivit-type master-link on.
Pliers and a dremel...that's all. Don't get the chain breaker. Put your money toward a dremel.
:cheers:
A chain-breaker kit...I suppose it is for riviting the master-link on. There are two different types of master-links: the rivit-type and the clip-type. The kit would include both a chain-breaker and everything that you would need to rivit the rivit-type master-link on.
Pliers and a dremel...that's all. Don't get the chain breaker. Put your money toward a dremel.
:cheers:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:33:03 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:33:03 PM
nice...i'll get a dremel then...
is it secure enough though???
is it secure enough though???
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:37:28 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:37:28 PM
The chain you buy off Ebay will probably come with the clip-type master-link. Yes, it will be secure enough. Kerry uses the clip-type fer Christ's sake! :mrgreen:
I'm sorry, I lied. You might also need to devise a way to squeeze the master-link on. You really need to read this thread right now...or at least look at the pictures. (http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11925)
:cheers:
I'm sorry, I lied. You might also need to devise a way to squeeze the master-link on. You really need to read this thread right now...or at least look at the pictures. (http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11925)
:cheers:
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:42:52 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 10:42:52 PM
what's the difference between a dremel and a drill anyways??
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:46:15 PM
Post by: Dom on February 07, 2005, 10:46:15 PM
Dremel is smaller and hand-held. It spins at higher rpms, has a smaller chuck than a drill, and is compatible with all of the fancy dremel bits...like the cut-off wheel pictured below.
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_1709_ChainSwap_OldChainBeingDremeled.jpg)
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_1709_ChainSwap_OldChainBeingDremeled.jpg)
Title: easiest way to remove chain?
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 11:07:52 PM
Post by: Frost on February 07, 2005, 11:07:52 PM
thanks Dom...really appreciate it...