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Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 11:41:10 AM
Anyone ever heard of this? I heard about it in passing a LONG time ago. I am searching the web now and theres a few tips, I am just wondering if anyone has ever used this technique before?
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dgyver on February 11, 2005, 12:05:15 PM
I have tried it with no success. A lot will depend on the location and type of dent.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: GRU on February 11, 2005, 12:12:33 PM
well my buddy works at a body shop and i gave him my tank with 2 dents in it...he used a dent puller but the one that welds a rod on the metal and then pulls it out...i got the tank back yesterday and it looks perfect...
just go to a body shop and have them pull out the dents
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: scootr9718 on February 11, 2005, 12:37:44 PM
Check out this thread, I recently used one of those ding king 20 dollar dent removal pullers, and it worked really well-to my pleasant surprise! I have links to pictures in the thread...



http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14720&start=20
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 03:44:57 PM
I have heard people swear by dry ice and I have also heard people say it doesn't work. I think I am gonna try it, I'll be no worse off than I was before.

The dents not creased and if I could reach a finger down in there, I could probably pop it out. Some of the online resources say it will work on steel but not aluminum. Below is a pic of the dent.

I'll take pics of the process and report on how it worked.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v251/skrap1r0n/IM001770.jpg)
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2005, 03:52:30 PM
you call THAT a dent??...lol...j/k

that should be a easy fix....you should see mine...haha :lol:
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 05:04:53 PM
yeah it's teeny and shallow. But if a few bucks and dry ice may get rid of it then it's worth a shot.

Now if I could just figure out how to straighten the frame on my GS...
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2005, 05:11:47 PM
ouch...frame?...how did that happen
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 05:24:12 PM
Stolen, ran from cops, and wrecked.

That was the ONLY time that bike had ever been on it's side. I am original owner and still have it, I just need a titled frame. The guuy that stole it had a pocket full of drugs too. Since a crime was committed on it, it was in impound for 18 months as evidence.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2005, 05:36:58 PM
that sucks man...did you get compensation for it??
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 05:48:33 PM
Yeah, 268 bucks restitution, that was my insurance deductable, the Ins. Co. totaled the bike. I could have either taken the bike or got 2k from the ins co to make a down pyment on another one.

I kept the bike. The only thing wrong was the bent frame and the need for a new wiring harness. in all honesty, I garaged it and forgot about it for about 8 years. It wasn't until recently that I started getting the Itch REAL bad.

I was gonna buy a frame and move the rest of the parts over to it, I am just have a Buddha Loves You of a time locating one with a title. My wife finally said screw it buy a damn bike, so I got the EX500 last weekend.

The GS is still my sweetie though. I plan on having it running by this time next year and giving the EX to my wife. I just with I could find a POS basket case GS with a title for a few hundred bucks.

I want to powdercoat it, put an undertail exhaust and the full Aluizio body kit on it. Katana front end, Bandit rear wheel, and the GSX-R750 rear suspension and pegs.

Sorry, I started rambling... <sigh>
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2005, 05:54:08 PM
i'm sure frames aren't that hard to find...goodluck with it though...
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 05:57:08 PM
frames aren't...Titled frames are though. Like I said, I need to find a GS here in texas that I can pick up for a few hundred bucks. Once I get it, it will just be a matter of weeks before it's up and running...Getting it where I want it will take quite a bit more.

I am budgeting about 3 grand total to get the bike where I want it, I just need the damn frame...lol.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: Frost on February 11, 2005, 06:02:16 PM
why not just sell your parts and get a complete bike to save the hassel...

if your budget is 3G to fix it up...you'll find a used one in GOOD condition for sure...even a 01+...
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 07:09:50 PM
Sentimental reasons, mainly. That was the first vehicle I bought on my own. I know it sounds insane, but the bikes perfectly fine, with the exception of the bent frame.

I want a project that I can build over a few weeks with my kids in the garage. I have 2 boys, 9 and 12 and a 13 year old daughter. They love the bikes and would love to work on it.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dane_lindsay on February 11, 2005, 07:37:28 PM
i totally understand the sentinmental thing man. i have a 96 that i wrecked twice, same thing, insurance salvage deal, then i let it sit, and ive already put $1k into a 40k mileage bike, for not good reason other than it being my first. it's even hard to paint the damn thing, i feel ridiculous..
Title: Odd...
Post by: The Buddha on February 11, 2005, 07:47:48 PM
Odd you guys are ... Its a freaking bike ... Not a person ... nothing but a mass of steel, aluminum, rubber and plastic and whatever else they put in these things over in japan ... I made a deal to sell the thing and the clown that was buying it came to his senses or maybe the weed wore off ... and backed out ... Oh crap ... Its fun but, if it blows up its scrap metal ... ok I'll part it off and what is left I'll toss in the scrap pile ... You're all a bunch of girls ... Well probably some of Y'all are ... but the rest of y'all are as well ... Dont mistreat it, but dont put it on a pedestal either ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: se7enty7 on February 11, 2005, 08:17:08 PM
i am so attached to my vehicles it's insane.  First or last... I love em all... and treat them all like gold.


my g/f's hate me for it... lol.....
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 11, 2005, 08:51:37 PM
It's tough to 'splain. I still have my first car that needs an engine and tranny. It's a Fiat X-19. I got it at 16. That was 14 years ago. they may be inanimate objects, but they have a special spot in my life and I am not willing to just replace it. That just doesn't feel right to me.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dgyver on February 11, 2005, 09:04:36 PM
Doubt that dry ice will work on that dent. Too sharp. A paintless dent removal service may have good luck with it. Dents on the side, like yours, are easier for them to remove since they have very limited access through the gas cap.

Here is the last dent I used dry ice on without success. Heating up the area first should help.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/dgyver/SV650/2002SVtank.jpg)
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: sprint_9 on February 11, 2005, 10:34:57 PM
You could bondo it too if your gonna have body work done.  I had my tank bondo'd up a few weeks ago and it lookes awesome.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: se7enty7 on February 11, 2005, 10:41:16 PM
Quote from: skrap1r0nIt's tough to 'splain. I still have my first car that needs an engine and tranny. It's a Fiat X-19. I got it at 16. That was 14 years ago. they may be inanimate objects, but they have a special spot in my life and I am not willing to just replace it. That just doesn't feel right to me.

hah... my first car.... a 64 'vair... I rebuilt those carbs mroe time than I can count...


ugh.... who came up with the idea that the ONLY way to remove the left bank middle sparkplug is by removing the carbs... ugh



then my 73' 914... loved that damn car... got stolen/totalled

89 crx. While slow, it handled well.  stolen/totalled

95 grand am.  not as bad as it sounds... had the perf. package... decently fast, VERY comfortable

now I have a 98 200sx se-r... LOVE IT.  fast, handles well, everything a car should... I REALLY wish it had leather or something though
Title: Treating them like gold...
Post by: The Buddha on February 11, 2005, 11:13:59 PM
See Oddly I treat them very well and I care for it and it lasts and lasts and lasts with me wrenching and riding it ... Once its beyond the point of useable service its going to get tossed ... or hocked with full disclosure ... Yea that whole sentiment and memories thing ... OK that's what Pictures are for ... Funny thing the GS or hack any of the GS'es dont mean that much to me ...
Best ride For me was once many many years ago 2 months after I got married my first bike a ninja 600 and I took my wife on her first bike ride ...
Hocked the ninja, repeated that with the second bike I owned ... a nighthawk 650, then for the next instance of a memorable bike ride ... was with my vulcan 750 in 2000 or 01 ... I was just so depressed for some reason dont remember ... I went to fill gas in it, and I started the bike sunday ~10 am and planned to come back and spend the day laying about and she said ... Shall I also come ... and I go Ooooh OK .... We came back home past midnight ... fun ... A boring bike otherwise ... it was a cool bike due to its lack of doing anyhting wrong ... leaving you to just enjoy the rest of your senses ... BTW I sold it last year to a friend, and later helped him sell it to someone else ... didn't even blink ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dane_lindsay on February 12, 2005, 12:21:09 AM
you are absolutely right, srinath, treat them well(ding), but it's just rubber, metal, etc., ....well, i have a huge guilt complex for not treating it well, i mean, when i t was new, i was convinced this shiny red pile of plastic, steel, and other odd parts was going to be my key to getting laid, and not suprisingly, it wasn't, but it gave me a chance to experience some pretty amazing things alone, like i piled a bunch of shaZam! on it and drove a gs to california, via canada, i drove up to nyc(scary with saddlebags, tank bags and a back pack, you can imagine how well it handled), to ontario, to LA, and back to GA. not as profound an experience as kerouac, pirsig, et. al. would like us "disaffected youth" to believe, but it was still something, and it's hard to just let even something material go, when it didn't let you down.. it's corny, but that bike really didn't. it's not as pathetic as it seems, it's more like i feel like reconstituting it is a part of maturity or something. anyway, i fully understand what it is, but sometimes, what something represents is important as well, art as something unto itself has become the domain of specialists, so that something such as a mechanic must be considered a "technical trade". well, i'll take my cue for those dorky french students from may '68, and try to take art back from mainsteam culture anyway i  can, and making this trashy pile of molecules run is what i choose...you can tell i'm a bit drunk, can't you,,,
Title: Oh well
Post by: The Buddha on February 12, 2005, 04:38:48 PM
Oh well I got the first part, the second part was clear over my head ... Anyway ... I can rebuild them just fine and I have ... but if it is un rebuildable ... like I can swap the motor, I can fix many of its problems ... but say its run over by a truck ... I'd not even blink ... Take the $$$ hopefully there is $$ and buy some else ... maybe another GS ... But still ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dane_lindsay on February 12, 2005, 04:51:24 PM
it's over my head too...damn bowmore scotch...
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 12, 2005, 08:27:14 PM
The front of the frame is twisted. The rest of the bike was in good condition, with the exeption of the wiring harness. If I can locate a frame, I can swap it all over and be on the road again.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: dane_lindsay on February 12, 2005, 08:31:06 PM
i don't know how bad you mean by twisted, i assume you already looked into repairing it, but i took mine to GMD computrac, and they did a great job on it, but mine was mostly the subframe. anyway, just a thought.
Title: Dry-Ice dent removal?
Post by: skrap1r0n on February 12, 2005, 08:52:22 PM
I have looked into it and they couldn't gurantee frame integrity. It's farily subtle, yet severe. If you look down the length of the bike, it's twisted, The front wheel and back wheel are on different planes, not in line.
Title: I had one
Post by: The Buddha on February 12, 2005, 09:47:10 PM
hey I had a twisted frame, whihc I carried around for 3 years, and traded to werase and he had it for like a week before spotting that it was twisted ... it was pretty hard to spot it ... which is our line of defence for carting it about ... anyway ... we stripped it off all its essentials and tossed it ... OK selling it far scrap may have netted up to like $5 ... but we didn't bother ... Yup its toast ... Those GMC guys ... maybe they are good but ... well its too much money for doing that anyway ...
Cool.
Srinath.