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Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: Frost on February 16, 2005, 02:56:32 PM
anyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: goat on February 16, 2005, 03:21:52 PM
Why do you need 3? Would that be 1 for the front, 1 for the rear (caliper to cylinder) and the other for rear resivoir to the cylinder?

I bought a ss line from spiegler (~$60US i think for just the front, but I don't remember exactly. ill check once I get home), but I haven't put it on yet so I can't tell you how it changed the feel of the bike from personal experience.

I was told that a ss line will help decrease the amount of pressure that you need to put on the brake lever to stop the bike. It will make a difference on the front, but I imagine that it won't be the end all be all of bike mods.

I got it because I needed to replace my brake lines anyways and it isn't too much more expensive than the rubber suzuki lines are. I figure for the front, its worth $15-20 extra, but I don't think that its worth it for the rear.
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: Frost on February 16, 2005, 03:27:58 PM
comes in package of 3...

but these are not DOT approved...it's from a guy who makes them...should i trust it...or maybe i should just buy 1 front from a name brand to save money and be more reliable?
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: goat on February 16, 2005, 04:15:58 PM
Personally, I want to be damn sure that I'm going to be able to stop every time.

Are brake lines somewhere you want to be cutting corners? I'd buy the one name-brand one and keep the rest rubber. ~70% of your stopping power comes from the front brake anyways
Title: Re: steel braided brake lines
Post by: tkm433 on February 16, 2005, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: Frostanyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?

My person view is that you only need them for the front and with the GS500 having only a single front brake you should be able to find a stainless steel or kevlar line for less than $50.  

As for not being DOT approved it could be due to the use of alloy ends and not steel.  

For everyday use go with a stainless or kevlar line with steel ends and you will never have to worry about them again.

Again my person view you will never need the stainless line on the rear since for road use your front brake is the one that does most of your braking and the rear with a stainless steel line would become even more likely to make the rear brakes more sensitive to lock-up.
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: goat on February 16, 2005, 05:22:48 PM
This is the company that I bought my line from (http://www.spieglerusa.com/).

They list the GS line at $59.95US, and I think it was like $5-10US for shipping. I don't seem able to find the reciept at the moment, though so I'm not completely sure.
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: cummuterguy on February 16, 2005, 07:06:30 PM
I've actually heard of guys deliberately letting a bit of air in their rear brake system, simply because they felt it was too stiff. (stupid idea in my opinion, since that lets moisture in too)

the point is, though, it probably wouldn't be an 'improvement' to put the steel braided lines in the rear.
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: dgyver on February 16, 2005, 08:56:26 PM
Replacing the stock rubber lines is the first thing I do to any bike. There is a major difference in feel and control. Look around for some cheaper. I picked up (off of ebay) a brand new front set of Fastline braided lines for a TLR for $10 but they are going on one of my track bikes. Brake lines are pretty much the same between bikes, just different lengths and maybe slightly different angles on the ends.

Here is a good read about brake lines:

Brake Line Facts and Fiction (//www.1888fastlap.com/store/customer/pages.php?pageid=60)
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: Frost on February 16, 2005, 09:02:06 PM
what are the recommanded brands?
is DOT approved important?...or are they all the same

what length do i need for the GS
Title: steel braided brake lines
Post by: dgyver on February 16, 2005, 09:08:49 PM
Goodridge, Fastline, Speigler, Galfer and Russell are several of the better manufacturers that I can recall.

Someone else will need to post the length required.
Title: Re: steel braided brake lines
Post by: The Buddha on February 16, 2005, 10:19:22 PM
Quote from: tkm433
Quote from: Frostanyone have any experience with them?
I can get 3 for $125CDN...is that a good deal?

do i need it on a GS?...will it be significantly better?
i only ride street...and sometimes agressively in twisties...

worth the investment?

My person view is that you only need them for the front and with the GS500 having only a single front brake you should be able to find a stainless steel or kevlar line for less than $50.  

As for not being DOT approved it could be due to the use of alloy ends and not steel.  

For everyday use go with a stainless or kevlar line with steel ends and you will never have to worry about them again.

Again my person view you will never need the stainless line on the rear since for road use your front brake is the one that does most of your braking and the rear with a stainless steel line would become even more likely to make the rear brakes more sensitive to lock-up.

Wowee ... This might be a first ... I totally agree ...
The Dot thing I dont know about ... but I prefer to bolt a line together and I use Steel or stainless steel fittings over brass or other ... The galfer fittings are Usually brass I think .. I like galfer line and use earl's fittings ... of course being in nascar country earl's fittings are found on the side of the road like pebbles around here ...  :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.