Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 12:59:13 PM
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 12:59:13 PM
This site has helped me a lot with understanding my bike. I've seen many post that people ask what oil is 'good' for the gs. I'm just wondering what brand and weight you use on your own gs. Thanks
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: scratch on March 02, 2005, 01:11:49 PM
Post by: scratch on March 02, 2005, 01:11:49 PM
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3657&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4775&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12062&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12570&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13227&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4775&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5385&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12062&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12570&highlight=kind+oil
http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13227&highlight=kind+oil
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: sprint_9 on March 02, 2005, 01:47:06 PM
Post by: sprint_9 on March 02, 2005, 01:47:06 PM
Pretty much everyone uses a different oil as Im sure you will find by looking at all of those previous threads. I use Shell Rotella 15w40 in my bike, hasnt blown up yet.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 02:14:09 PM
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 02:14:09 PM
scratch, thanks ive read those post I just wanted to see what everyone uses, not why they use it or want the benifits are, just curious what everyone is running in their bike.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: tdan553527 on March 02, 2005, 02:15:55 PM
Post by: tdan553527 on March 02, 2005, 02:15:55 PM
Castrol 10W-40
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: se7enty7 on March 02, 2005, 02:34:12 PM
Post by: se7enty7 on March 02, 2005, 02:34:12 PM
I use actual motorcycle oil. on one hand, I don't believe the hype. On the other, the price difference is like $5 total or something...
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: callmelenny on March 02, 2005, 02:42:06 PM
Post by: callmelenny on March 02, 2005, 02:42:06 PM
Rotella 15W 40, temps here are hardly ever below 40 deg though.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: manofthefield on March 02, 2005, 02:46:48 PM
Post by: manofthefield on March 02, 2005, 02:46:48 PM
Mobil Devlac 15w 40
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: roguegeek on March 02, 2005, 02:54:46 PM
Post by: roguegeek on March 02, 2005, 02:54:46 PM
Is it ok to use a synthetic oil or no?
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: goat on March 02, 2005, 04:17:30 PM
Post by: goat on March 02, 2005, 04:17:30 PM
Quote from: roguegeekIs it ok to use a synthetic oil or no?
You can, and some do. I've been told that it can cause problems with the clutch, though
Personally, I put Shell Rotella-T 15w40 in my bike.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Frost on March 02, 2005, 04:23:22 PM
Post by: Frost on March 02, 2005, 04:23:22 PM
i've tried penzoil motorcycle 10w-40, castrol motorcycle 10w-40, rotellla-T 15w-40...
IMO...penzoil runs very hot, and not as smooth shifting...
castrol is better, but the stuff is really thin...(you'll see when you pour it out)...i use castrol in cold season...
rotella-T is very good...i found that my bike shifts better and runs cooler during summer...
i'm going to try delvac for next oil change...if the price is right...
IMO...penzoil runs very hot, and not as smooth shifting...
castrol is better, but the stuff is really thin...(you'll see when you pour it out)...i use castrol in cold season...
rotella-T is very good...i found that my bike shifts better and runs cooler during summer...
i'm going to try delvac for next oil change...if the price is right...
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: John Bates on March 02, 2005, 05:24:11 PM
Post by: John Bates on March 02, 2005, 05:24:11 PM
Castrol 10W40, year round. :cheers:
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Rippa_MD on March 02, 2005, 05:46:29 PM
Post by: Rippa_MD on March 02, 2005, 05:46:29 PM
came across this http://tinyurl.com/6afnt while searching/researching on Rotella T. I'm due for an oil change in about three weeks so Rotella T caught my attentioned. googled it and found the article 'cache' in google.
It mentions in more detail what Rotella T is if you're interested in knowing, it's a long read but read the parts about Rotella T . Interesting stuff..now where do I buy it?? google time! :thumb:
It mentions in more detail what Rotella T is if you're interested in knowing, it's a long read but read the parts about Rotella T . Interesting stuff..now where do I buy it?? google time! :thumb:
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: scratch on March 02, 2005, 05:51:51 PM
Post by: scratch on March 02, 2005, 05:51:51 PM
Quote from: Cusimanoscratch, thanks ive read those post I just wanted to see what everyone uses, not why they use it or want the benifits are, just curious what everyone is running in their bike.
You're welcome!
I use Castrol Actevo 10w-40.
Now that I think of it it's kinda good that I put all those threads into one easy to search for post.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: manofthefield on March 02, 2005, 06:29:18 PM
Post by: manofthefield on March 02, 2005, 06:29:18 PM
Quote from: Rippa_MD...Rotella T . Interesting stuff..now where do I buy it?? google time! :thumb:You can buy it at walmart among other places, it's sold in 1 gallon containers. I want to try it sometime, but it's always sitting next to the very similar Mobil Delvac which is a few bucks cheaper... and I'm a cheapskate :mrgreen:
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Frost on March 02, 2005, 06:36:58 PM
Post by: Frost on March 02, 2005, 06:36:58 PM
delvac is cheaper?...i'm gonna use that for sure next time...
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: mp183 on March 02, 2005, 07:29:45 PM
Post by: mp183 on March 02, 2005, 07:29:45 PM
Castrol 10-40.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: juggernaught on March 02, 2005, 07:46:50 PM
Post by: juggernaught on March 02, 2005, 07:46:50 PM
Shell Advance Ultra 4 Synthetic
Info :
http://www.crescent-suzuki.com/accessories/listitems.asp?category=Shell%20Advance%20Oils
Info :
http://www.crescent-suzuki.com/accessories/listitems.asp?category=Shell%20Advance%20Oils
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: alexXx on March 02, 2005, 07:52:18 PM
Post by: alexXx on March 02, 2005, 07:52:18 PM
rotella 15w40
- alex
- alex
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 09:40:31 PM
Post by: Cusimano on March 02, 2005, 09:40:31 PM
wow im surprised that quite a few of people use rotella. thanks for everyones feedback.
Title: I use
Post by: The Buddha on March 03, 2005, 01:41:46 AM
Post by: The Buddha on March 03, 2005, 01:41:46 AM
OK I use the cheapest stuff I can get ... which is Accel 10W40 at walmart, used to be 74 cents a bottle, now its 88 cents a bottle ... But here is the thing ... I'd use it even if it cost more than the rest ... OK maybe not if it cost more than Rotella ... The reason is ... that oil is formulated to 1990 SAE standards, aka ... its like SF rated, not SG, or SH or SI or what ever ... aka lots of additives, like zinc, phosphorus copper etc as well as other cool stuff ... newer means less of that ... meaning less ashy exhaust cloggin up sensors ... WTF No sensors so I burn stuff that rich in ashy stuff ... :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Kerry on May 18, 2005, 09:27:36 PM
Post by: Kerry on May 18, 2005, 09:27:36 PM
It's true -- the GS500E owner's manual recommends oil rated at API Service SE or SF (minimum).
Unfortunately, I can't find my owner's manual at the moment. But the Haynes manual confirms it in the Recommended lubricants and fluids section of this Maintenance Specs page (http://www.bbburma.net/Scans/Haynes_MaintenanceSpecs.gif).
As for Accel oil, here's what the back of the bottle says:
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_2082_AccelOil_LabelOnBackOfBottle.gif)
Unfortunately, I can't find my owner's manual at the moment. But the Haynes manual confirms it in the Recommended lubricants and fluids section of this Maintenance Specs page (http://www.bbburma.net/Scans/Haynes_MaintenanceSpecs.gif).
As for Accel oil, here's what the back of the bottle says:
(http://www.bbburma.net/MiscFotos/100_2082_AccelOil_LabelOnBackOfBottle.gif)
Title: Amalie Oil XLO Fleet SHPD
Post by: marc on May 20, 2005, 01:09:56 AM
Post by: marc on May 20, 2005, 01:09:56 AM
Amalie XLO FLEET SHPD
Yep! it's a SHPD (Super High Performance DIESEL)! but its
formulation to work in lubrication of turbines (revved to 40Krpm)
and its weight of 15W40 makes me think that it's OK for my GS500.
meet or exceed the CI-4/SL API Service Classifications; Global DHD-1; and JASO DH-1. Amalie XLO Heavy Duty Fleet engine oils are recommended for use wherever MIL L 2104-G and MIL L 46152-E are recommended; wherever Allison C-3 and C-4 fluids and Caterpillar TO-2 are recommended or required; and are recommended for use wherever the following European approval standards are specified: ACEA A3, A2, A1 / B3, B2, B1 / E5, E3,E2 and E1.
Yep! it's a SHPD (Super High Performance DIESEL)! but its
formulation to work in lubrication of turbines (revved to 40Krpm)
and its weight of 15W40 makes me think that it's OK for my GS500.
meet or exceed the CI-4/SL API Service Classifications; Global DHD-1; and JASO DH-1. Amalie XLO Heavy Duty Fleet engine oils are recommended for use wherever MIL L 2104-G and MIL L 46152-E are recommended; wherever Allison C-3 and C-4 fluids and Caterpillar TO-2 are recommended or required; and are recommended for use wherever the following European approval standards are specified: ACEA A3, A2, A1 / B3, B2, B1 / E5, E3,E2 and E1.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: gsJack on May 20, 2005, 06:53:54 AM
Post by: gsJack on May 20, 2005, 06:53:54 AM
Mobil Delvac 1300
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Jarno on May 20, 2005, 01:34:12 PM
Post by: Jarno on May 20, 2005, 01:34:12 PM
I'm running Castrol GPS 15W40 MC engine oil. Horribly expensive, but my uncle told me to use it. They use the same stuff on the nearly-street-legal R-bikes that frequent his bike shop.
For that bit of oil and some other work-up I did a day's worth of slave-labor for his shop... he runs bike import business and does maintenance work on most of the bikes he's imported - and some odds'n sods like mine. :)
I really can say that he's The Authority I listen to when it comes to motorcycles, though I've seen some really solid info on this fine board too!
-J
For that bit of oil and some other work-up I did a day's worth of slave-labor for his shop... he runs bike import business and does maintenance work on most of the bikes he's imported - and some odds'n sods like mine. :)
I really can say that he's The Authority I listen to when it comes to motorcycles, though I've seen some really solid info on this fine board too!
-J
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: nathanael on May 21, 2005, 12:33:17 AM
Post by: nathanael on May 21, 2005, 12:33:17 AM
Cool, I think I'm going to try that Accel stuff next time I change my oil. At 88 cents a bottle you can't really beat that price, and Srinath's explanation makes a lot of sense about why it would be a good oil to use for our bikes too. I like when things can be both good and cheap (yes, it is possible!), instead of buying that 4 dollar Suzuki oil from my dealer. :cheers: [/i]
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: banner on May 21, 2005, 02:56:10 AM
Post by: banner on May 21, 2005, 02:56:10 AM
hmm..that says minimum rating though. I wonder if the accell stuff is healthy for the engine since it hasn't been fully purified.
who knows though...
A question i had though..does 10w 30 work well on the gs500e engine??
who knows though...
A question i had though..does 10w 30 work well on the gs500e engine??
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: snap-on on May 21, 2005, 09:22:02 PM
Post by: snap-on on May 21, 2005, 09:22:02 PM
what does the w stand for "10w-40"
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: weaselnoze on May 21, 2005, 09:39:41 PM
Post by: weaselnoze on May 21, 2005, 09:39:41 PM
i think it stands for weight.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Kerry on May 22, 2005, 12:01:45 AM
Post by: Kerry on May 22, 2005, 12:01:45 AM
Actually, it stands for Winter.
Multi-viscosity oils are thinner when cold, and then thicken as they heat up. So, a 10W40 oil starts out acting like 10-weight (which is good when you're trying to give the engine parts their initial coating of oil at startup). By the time you've ridden a few miles, it's acting like 40-weight.
Multi-viscosity oils are thinner when cold, and then thicken as they heat up. So, a 10W40 oil starts out acting like 10-weight (which is good when you're trying to give the engine parts their initial coating of oil at startup). By the time you've ridden a few miles, it's acting like 40-weight.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: Venom on May 22, 2005, 01:19:11 PM
Post by: Venom on May 22, 2005, 01:19:11 PM
I Use shell Rotellla-T 15w-40. I seems to work great plus its not all that expensive if you buy it in the gal container. Picked some up yesterday at Wal Mart for 6.87 a gallon (4 quarts)
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: gs500fromnb on May 22, 2005, 07:49:27 PM
Post by: gs500fromnb on May 22, 2005, 07:49:27 PM
Amsoil here... I like the results and wont switch back. Expensive but I figure IF it really does improve my engine life its worth it.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: rtcpenguin on October 30, 2005, 02:48:54 PM
Post by: rtcpenguin on October 30, 2005, 02:48:54 PM
Why do people use 15W40 as opposed to 10W40? Is 15W40 better for winter?
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: ashman on October 30, 2005, 07:22:57 PM
Post by: ashman on October 30, 2005, 07:22:57 PM
Just call me an idiot but I still go to the dealer for my 10-40 suzuki brand oil. Yes it cost more, but it keeps me in good standing w/ the guys down there. They are always more willing to help you w/ advice and what not when they see you regularly and drop some $$$ each month.
-ash
-ash
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: natedawg120 on October 30, 2005, 07:44:54 PM
Post by: natedawg120 on October 30, 2005, 07:44:54 PM
I use 10w40 castrol full synthetic.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: callmelenny on October 30, 2005, 07:52:57 PM
Post by: callmelenny on October 30, 2005, 07:52:57 PM
Quote from: rtcpenguinWhy do people use 15W40 as opposed to 10W40? Is 15W40 better for winter?
A lot of people are using Rotella which only comes as 30W or 15/40 as far as I know. Rotella is favored by some folks like me b/c it has a long history of favor by diesel engine folks. So I think it is more of choice of Rotella than a choice of 15/40
Title: oil
Post by: JustinNoob on October 30, 2005, 09:52:17 PM
Post by: JustinNoob on October 30, 2005, 09:52:17 PM
Gotta go with the baby oil, ooh yea..... :P
Title: Re: oil
Post by: pandy on October 30, 2005, 10:13:31 PM
Post by: pandy on October 30, 2005, 10:13:31 PM
Quote from: JustinNoobGotta go with the baby oil, ooh yea..... :P
Sesame-seed oil...it doesn't have as "greasy" a feel to it...the Baby G like that smooth, non-greasy feeling. ;)
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: rtcpenguin on October 30, 2005, 11:02:51 PM
Post by: rtcpenguin on October 30, 2005, 11:02:51 PM
Quote from: callmelennySo do you think adding 15W40 would be a bad idea since winter is coming (or already here)?Quote from: rtcpenguinWhy do people use 15W40 as opposed to 10W40? Is 15W40 better for winter?
A lot of people are using Rotella which only comes as 30W or 15/40 as far as I know. Rotella is favored by some folks like me b/c it has a long history of favor by diesel engine folks. So I think it is more of choice of Rotella than a choice of 15/40
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: phire on December 04, 2005, 06:43:57 PM
Post by: phire on December 04, 2005, 06:43:57 PM
Quote from: KerryAs for Accel oil, here's what the back of the bottle says:
Hey, cool it was bottled here in Omaha, Nebraska. :cheers:
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: phire on December 04, 2005, 06:50:08 PM
Post by: phire on December 04, 2005, 06:50:08 PM
Quote from: rtcpenguinWhy do people use 15W40 as opposed to 10W40? Is 15W40 better for winter?
Actually, the colder the weather gets, the lower you want that first number to be. That's roughly the temperature in which it's still considered "pumpable" if I'm not mistaken. Modern multi-weight oils were designed to be thinner when cold so as to get oil to vital parts of the engine quicker. Let's say it was 5 degrees out and you had a straight 30 weight oil in your engine... You're really risking doing damage to your engine because a 30 weight oil is fairly thick and obviously the colder it gets the thicker oil will get... Anyways, rule of thumb is to base the oil you put into your engine around the temperatures you expect to be riding/driving in. So for summer, 20w50 wouldn't be a bad oil to use because it's thicker and won't thin out quite as much as say a 5 or 10w30 would... And when does the temperature drop below 20 degrees in the summer? :P Heck, when does it drop below 50?!?
Anyways, hope that was helpful and anyone more knowledgeable please feel free to correct where I may be wrong.
Title: OILS... just a little poll
Post by: mjm on December 05, 2005, 04:38:29 PM
Post by: mjm on December 05, 2005, 04:38:29 PM
Quote from: phireQuote from: rtcpenguinWhy do people use 15W40 as opposed to 10W40? Is 15W40 better for winter?
Actually, the colder the weather gets, the lower you want that first number to be. That's roughly the temperature in which it's still considered "pumpable" if I'm not mistaken. ....
It is a viscosity ("thickness") measure - do not remember the scale off hand - there are several. You set up a container with a clibrated hole and measure how long it takes a reference liquid to drip through, then compare other liquids to the reference liquid. Lower number is thinner (drips through faster and will be easier to pump). Higher number is thicker and will take longer to drip through. The viscosity of many liquids, like oil, changes dramatically with the temperature. In oil speak the first number is "winter" viscosity (thus 10W- or 5W etc) and the second number is thickness when hot - which used to relate to how well it lubricated in a hot engine. Now it mostly tells you how fast it will leak out of a hot motor. Other aspects of the API standard relate to how slippery and how much cushioning the oil will give under given conditions. Older engine designs need thicker oil at running temperature. Newer ones do not. My new MX5 uses 0W5 oil according to the manual. Thinner oil also gives a bit better milage and easier starting. I use 0W40 Mobile 1 in the GS500. No idea what the dealer puts in the Miata -oil changes were included with the car.