Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 08:10:54 PM
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 08:10:54 PM
how come I can't find this ANYWHERE!?!?!?!
went to 3 hardware stores, 3 auto parts store...no one have this size!!!
where can I get this...and is 10-32 1/2" a good substitute?
went to 3 hardware stores, 3 auto parts store...no one have this size!!!
where can I get this...and is 10-32 1/2" a good substitute?
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: coll0412 on March 11, 2005, 08:50:04 PM
Post by: coll0412 on March 11, 2005, 08:50:04 PM
hmmm that is really odd
what you are looking for is a M4X10X13mm or 12mm depending on application. Seems odd that you couldn't find them, try an auto parts store.
I don't think a standard would work unless you are also using a nut to hold in place.
what you are looking for is a M4X10X13mm or 12mm depending on application. Seems odd that you couldn't find them, try an auto parts store.
I don't think a standard would work unless you are also using a nut to hold in place.
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:04:02 PM
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:04:02 PM
As I understand fasteners:
The number following the letter "M" is the diameter in mm.
The second number is the thread pitch in mm. (the distance between adjacent threads)
It looks like the number 10 is in error, maybe should be 1.0.? :dunno:
If so, a #10-32 would not match since its pitch is .79 mm (1/32 in.). and its diameter is 4.8 mm (.19 in.).
The number following the letter "M" is the diameter in mm.
The second number is the thread pitch in mm. (the distance between adjacent threads)
It looks like the number 10 is in error, maybe should be 1.0.? :dunno:
If so, a #10-32 would not match since its pitch is .79 mm (1/32 in.). and its diameter is 4.8 mm (.19 in.).
Title: Ha ha
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 09:04:14 PM
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 09:04:14 PM
Ha Ha ... Welcome to my world ... Metric ... we get no respect ... no decent hardware ... no nothing ... hence I had to use Machine thread for carb bolts and we all remember what ensued and then of course one fine day I couldn't find those either and the dumb looks on the faces of the "experts" at HD and Lowes and their theories about me using a #10 wood screw instead were amazing ... So I gave up and ordered a box of 100 16's and 12's in 5mm X .8 ... just in time for some very screwed up carbs to show up ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Ha ha
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:11:26 PM
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:11:26 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath................. wood screw instead ..............
You are kidding, right? :dunno:
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: jakethesnake on March 11, 2005, 09:16:50 PM
Post by: jakethesnake on March 11, 2005, 09:16:50 PM
Depending on how many you need McMaster - Carr has every bolt I ever Needed. http://www.mcmaster.com/ or you can try Fastenal they cost more but can get about anything and they have lots of stores around the US.
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 09:21:44 PM
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 09:21:44 PM
M4X10X13mm
or is it
M4X10X12mm
so is it 10?...or is it 1.0 ??
or is it
M4X10X12mm
so is it 10?...or is it 1.0 ??
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:43:35 PM
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: FrostM4X10X13mm
or is it
M4X10X12mm
so is it 10?...or is it 1.0 ??
Actually, if M4 is correct then the standard pitch for that diameter is .7 mm. The closest standard length to 1/2" is 12mm. The next shortest is 10 mm. and the next longest is 16 mm.
Maybe M4x.7 12 mm long is what your looking for? :dunno:
Title: Re: Ha ha
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 09:49:51 PM
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 09:49:51 PM
Quote from: John BatesQuote from: seshadri_srinath................. wood screw instead ..............
You are kidding, right? :dunno:
No I am not ... dead serious ... They wanted me to use a #10 phillips wood screw ... Luckily I never listen to anyone ... not even if I am married to it ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :bs: :bs: :bs: But ... but ... but ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 09:52:50 PM
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 09:52:50 PM
0.7 and 1.0 is VERY different!!!
and 10 is even more far off!!!
and 10 is even more far off!!!
Title: OK different things ...
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 10:00:11 PM
Post by: The Buddha on March 11, 2005, 10:00:11 PM
OK we're talking about differnt things ...and this is what the differences are ...
1. 89-00 bike uses 2 5mm bolts per carb in place of the 4 4mm ones you have.
2. Your bolt is 4mm dia and .7mm pitch ... that what the 1.0 and .7 etc were referring to.
3. a #10 bolt is about 4.87mm dia, and 32 is the threads per inch whihc is almost the same as .8 mm pitch that the 89-00 bolts were ... so a 10-32 1/2 inch bolt is a mish mosh of SAE specs that is nearly the same as the 5 X .8 we needed ... Of course HD metric was total shaZam!, and I have bought bolts that were bent into a banana just cos that's all they had ... :x :x :x ... The SAE stuff is available in allen head stainless ... and very good tolerances made it a cool deal ... but when they ran out of that too ... I just snapped ... and ordered a couple boxes of 100's ...
You need 4 X .7mm in 12mm length ... OK take your crabs to the store and try say 8-36 machine thread ... I dunnot if it fits ... but check and see ...
Cool.
Srinath.
1. 89-00 bike uses 2 5mm bolts per carb in place of the 4 4mm ones you have.
2. Your bolt is 4mm dia and .7mm pitch ... that what the 1.0 and .7 etc were referring to.
3. a #10 bolt is about 4.87mm dia, and 32 is the threads per inch whihc is almost the same as .8 mm pitch that the 89-00 bolts were ... so a 10-32 1/2 inch bolt is a mish mosh of SAE specs that is nearly the same as the 5 X .8 we needed ... Of course HD metric was total shaZam!, and I have bought bolts that were bent into a banana just cos that's all they had ... :x :x :x ... The SAE stuff is available in allen head stainless ... and very good tolerances made it a cool deal ... but when they ran out of that too ... I just snapped ... and ordered a couple boxes of 100's ...
You need 4 X .7mm in 12mm length ... OK take your crabs to the store and try say 8-36 machine thread ... I dunnot if it fits ... but check and see ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Ha ha
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 10:12:47 PM
Post by: John Bates on March 11, 2005, 10:12:47 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinath..................... I never listen to anyone ... not even if I am married to it ... :lol: :lol: :lol: :bs: :bs: :bs: But ... but ... but ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Boy your'e in trouble if your marriage partner sees this stuff! :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 10:21:52 PM
Post by: Frost on March 11, 2005, 10:21:52 PM
so i need 4 X 0.7 X 12mm ???
Title: I think so ...
Post by: The Buddha on March 12, 2005, 07:16:02 AM
Post by: The Buddha on March 12, 2005, 07:16:02 AM
Yea I believe so ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: DerekNC on March 12, 2005, 08:05:07 AM
Post by: DerekNC on March 12, 2005, 08:05:07 AM
If you can find the right size bolt but it's too long a dremel cutting wheel works great for cutting it down. I had to do that to install cabinet pulls in my kitchen remodel.
Derek
Derek
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: denman on March 12, 2005, 08:42:30 AM
Post by: denman on March 12, 2005, 08:42:30 AM
the true value down the street from me has all the mm nuts and bolts i can think of in ss. see ya.
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 12, 2005, 10:21:09 AM
Post by: Frost on March 12, 2005, 10:21:09 AM
went to 2 more hardware store today...and no luck...NOBODY HAVE THIS SIZE SCREW!!!!!
Title: Re: OK different things ...
Post by: tkm433 on March 12, 2005, 06:30:04 PM
Post by: tkm433 on March 12, 2005, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK we're talking about differnt things ...and this is what the differences are ...
1. 89-00 bike uses 2 5mm bolts per carb in place of the 4 4mm ones you have.
2. Your bolt is 4mm dia and .7mm pitch ... that what the 1.0 and .7 etc were referring to.
3. a #10 bolt is about 4.87mm dia, and 32 is the threads per inch whihc is almost the same as .8 mm pitch that the 89-00 bolts were ... so a 10-32 1/2 inch bolt is a mish mosh of SAE specs that is nearly the same as the 5 X .8 we needed ... Of course HD metric was total shaZam!, and I have bought bolts that were bent into a banana just cos that's all they had ... :x :x :x ... The SAE stuff is available in allen head stainless ... and very good tolerances made it a cool deal ... but when they ran out of that too ... I just snapped ... and ordered a couple boxes of 100's ...
You need 4 X .7mm in 12mm length ... OK take your crabs to the store and try say 8-36 machine thread ... I dunnot if it fits ... but check and see ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: hey
Post by: coll0412 on March 12, 2005, 08:15:17 PM
Post by: coll0412 on March 12, 2005, 08:15:17 PM
If you cant find them, send me a PM I have a couple good friends who work at an Industrial Fastner supply, tell me how many bolts you need and all you pay is the shipping okay?
Th size is going to be for that bolt
M4X1.0X**MM
or M4X0.7XX**MM
where ** is the length in millimeters, remeber 25.4mm=1 inch
also tell me what pitch you need, or If your not sure I can get both. I wont have access untill monday however.
You also can reply to this message because I forget to check my PM's sometimes
Th size is going to be for that bolt
M4X1.0X**MM
or M4X0.7XX**MM
where ** is the length in millimeters, remeber 25.4mm=1 inch
also tell me what pitch you need, or If your not sure I can get both. I wont have access untill monday however.
You also can reply to this message because I forget to check my PM's sometimes
Title: WTF??? M4x10 by 1/2" long METRIC
Post by: Frost on March 12, 2005, 08:17:11 PM
Post by: Frost on March 12, 2005, 08:17:11 PM
i found them...M4 X 0.7 X ~12mm
Title: hmm..
Post by: coll0412 on March 12, 2005, 08:17:23 PM
Post by: coll0412 on March 12, 2005, 08:17:23 PM
so after reading the posts closely you need
4MX .7mmX12mm
I wil also check to see if they have it in stainless steel
4MX .7mmX12mm
I wil also check to see if they have it in stainless steel