how can i remove the gas cap without a key?
OK 01+ cap ... impossible wihtout key, has an added tounge on the bottom to keep you from wrestling the cap out with a crow bar, Yea older gs it was possible ... was hard on the cap but yea could be done.
Cool.
Srinath.
NO WAY?????
what are my options then
locksmith? :dunno:
DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x
can anyone teach me how to pick a lock? :roll:
those kind of locks are hard to pick. they have that little metal 'door' that covers the hole. google lockpicking and im sure u'll find stuff. i learned how to pick a house lock with a screwdriver and a saftey pin :)
did it work?
F**K!!!!!!!!!
call locksmith and show him your title.
i dont' have title...
i bought this tank off ebay...and the gas cap is stuck on :x
Don't know if this will help much but the lock on the first tank I had on my GS had been busted with a screwdriver so you could just put anything in there and turn it to open it up. If you don't care about the lock on the tank cap you might be able to just drill it out. Don't know... just a suggestion.
OK hard to pick ... nope ... Werase picked the 04 se7enty7 bought in about 4 seconds flat ... Next lock I am picking definetely need the practice ... he had a set of picks ... I believe they sell them on ebay for like 4-5 bucks a set ... buy one and start opening locks ... OK that opens a whole new can of worms ... so just stay away from my house ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.
wow...4 seconds!?!??!?
i gotta practice...
what picks do i need for the GS lock...
He used a little flat L shaped piece ... Like an allen wrench but was flat and had a twist in the short part whihc is what he preloaded the thing with, then he had a straight piece with a little bump in it close to but not at the tip ... that he used to sorta nudge the wafers ... I should start making them ... I do have some high temper stainless sheet lying about ...
Cool.
Srinath.
but the GS key is "both sided"
how would that work?
Quote from: seshadri_srinathOK hard to pick ... nope ... Werase picked the 04 se7enty7 bought in about 4 seconds flat ... Next lock I am picking definetely need the practice ... he had a set of picks ... I believe they sell them on ebay for like 4-5 bucks a set ... buy one and start opening locks ... OK that opens a whole new can of worms ... so just stay away from my house ... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.
hard for a newb that probably doesnt know how that kind of lock works? probably.. but it is worth a try
As a locksmith, I can tell you that the GS lock is easily pickable. As far as the two sided key goes, normally any given lock will only use one side at a time (in the case of Ford 5 cut keys for instance, the ignition uses the bottom cuts, and the trunk the top). I haven't been inside a GS lock, but I would assume it is the case here. Take the tank to a locksmith (or call a mobile guy like me) and have them impression a key for you, or at least pick it if you can't.
On a side note, its not wise to have picks in your posession unless you are a licensed locksmith, since in many states this alone is unlawful. It can be taken, in certain circumstances, as intent to commit burgulary.
Anyway, best of luck.
Aaron
The key is 2 sided, the locks are not ... its 2 sided just to keep you from confusing yourself. You've heard of 1/2 and 1/2 keys ... where someone has a gas cap or ignition replaced and they now have 2 keys for the bike, so they decide to cut 1 profile into 1 side and the other on the other side ... Its a cheap ass lock, anyone should be able to open it ... BTW ... I have opened up the thing from the inside ... its nothing much ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Quote from: seshadri_srinathYou've heard of 1/2 and 1/2 keys ... where someone has a gas cap or ignition replaced and they now have 2 keys for the bike, so they decide to cut 1 profile into 1 side and the other on the other side ...
That's exactly how my '99 works. (See the old
Finally had a key made! thread.) I put my thumb on the plain side of the key to insert it into the ignition and the gas cap, and on the stamped side to unlock the seat.
Yeah they aren't too difficult to pick - but as for buying picks off ebay....Nope....
Jus as Aplitz said---If you're a locksmith or have a job that is ok to have them ( repo man maybe or salvage guy or...) -no worries... In some states if you aren't in a profession that needs them and you get caught with them... Do not pass go go directly to jail..... Considered burglary tools .
I made my own set of picks- Next time you change out the wind shield wiper inserts on your car... save the inserts.... the stainless steel that holds the rubber is great for making picks... A dremel with the little cutting wheel shapes them great...
The tension bar is essentially what Srinath said... a piece of flat with a little L on the end....
I have borrowed a set of real pics that I copied (found a few favorite pics that worked well and copied those....) . I get bikes with no keys (but with Titles :mrgreen: ) that I have to get unlocked....So it's good to know how to do it....
If you don't need the gas cap you can always drill out the lock cylinder -that is if you just bought the tank for the tank....
how many picks do i need?...
just 1 pick and 1 tension bar?
what shape of pick should i make?
Quote from: aplitzits not wise to have picks in your posession unless you are a licensed locksmith,
Aaron
good thing i got the paperwork to go with the tools.... :mrgreen:
I LOVE CHEVY IGNITION LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:
Quote from: werase643Quote from: aplitzits not wise to have picks in your posession unless you are a licensed locksmith,
Aaron
good thing i got the paperwork to go with the tools.... :mrgreen:
I LOVE CHEVY IGNITION LOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cheers:
I like your sig, Smeg Head :nana:
And as far as having lock picks on you. The 5.0 can't do anything to you unless you are using them on something you are not supposed to. Other than a gun, or other classified weapon, it's not the item that is illegal it is the manner of it's use that CAN make it illegal.
<-spent a summer in the Police academy
QuoteThe 5.0 can't do anything to you unless you are using them on something you are not supposed to. Other than a gun, or other classified weapon, it's not the item that is illegal it is the manner of it's use that CAN make it illegal.
As to lockpicks, their designed use is for one purpose only to open locks without the use of Keys. If you are NOT a licensed or have On record that you were licensed as a lock smith, they are considered Burglery tools and it is arrestable should LEO wish to push.
chances are if your driving a locksmith truck it wont be an issue.
a Firearm has More then one useful purpose and even then you must have a permit to carry one on your person.
I have also see LEO's use creative writeing to label a Tire Iron as a burglery tool cuz the dude kept it between his seats. how it held up in court i do not know.
Make your own if you wish, dont go spreading word about it, just say you fixed the problem.
wow...never know it's that serious...
it's not like i'm gonna be carrying it around...
just because you have a nuclear weapon....not that you are going to use it....
but, it still pisses alot of people off....just having it
If you order some picks, and leave the package unopened until you're at home; and use them at home; then it seems OK to me. You probably don't want to walk around with them in a lockpick belt-pouch, but I think having them at home should be fine.
Quote from: Frostwow...never know it's that serious...
it's not like i'm gonna be carrying it around...
I wouldnt worry about them....
they arent illegal in canada...
351. (1) Every one who, without lawful excuse, the proof of which lies on him, has in his possession any instrument suitable for the purpose of breaking into any place, motor vehicle, vault or safe
under circumstances that give rise to a reasonable inference that the instrument has been used or is or was intended to be used for any such purpose, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/text.html <--- found here.. large page to load..
Basically, where no legislation exists in a province, there can be no crime of posession unless in association with another illegal activity. Unless that province has a provincial act saying you need to have a locksmith licence to carry a lockpick... which only alberta and saskatchewan have those laws.
If you order them from the states, customs may be an issue (they like to make their own fictionnal rules). But the odds your package is inspected is fairly small.
If you dont know how to pick it, well its fairly simple, with some practice you shouldnt have an issue
http://home.howstuffworks.com/lock-picking.htm .
Quote from: BlueknytQuoteThe 5.0 can't do anything to you unless you are using them on something you are not supposed to. Other than a gun, or other classified weapon, it's not the item that is illegal it is the manner of it's use that CAN make it illegal.
As to lockpicks, their designed use is for one purpose only to open locks without the use of Keys. If you are NOT a licensed or have On record that you were licensed as a lock smith, they are considered Burglery tools and it is arrestable should LEO wish to push.
chances are if your driving a locksmith truck it wont be an issue.
a Firearm has More then one useful purpose and even then you must have a permit to carry one on your person.
I have also see LEO's use creative writeing to label a Tire Iron as a burglery tool cuz the dude kept it between his seats. how it held up in court i do not know.
Make your own if you wish, dont go spreading word about it, just say you fixed the problem.
Once again ignorance is bliss. Having worked in law enforcement and having had to read and know the Texas code of Criminal Procedure and Penal law, I would say I know what I'm talking about.
Hell I can buy lock picks at the locksmiths shop.
QuoteOnce again ignorance is bliss. Having worked in law enforcement and having had to read and know the Texas code of Criminal Procedure and Penal law, I would say I know what I'm talking about.
Texas code, cool. Is it Reasonably possible that differnt states Might have More/less/differnt codes then others?
you may know what your talking about as your studying and wont dispute that as i dont live there and dont know squat about texas laws, but i live in florida and the 2 judges, 4 cops (one being my father for better then 27years) and former PA i know have all said the same thing.
dont get caught with them on your person unless your in the lock bussiness and are under license.
Ignorance? If you say so...
Think i'll take thier word for it.
Notice I did qualify their legality by saying most states. The laws vary, so does actual enforcement. If you are pulled over for a minor infraction, and an officer finds pics, and you aren't a locksmith he's really gonna wonder why you have them. You see, other than locksmniths, the onlt other people he sees with picks are usually theives. Now, he has a reason to look at you farther, and now your life could really suck.