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Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Cal Price on April 21, 2005, 10:44:32 AM
A few months back I fitted some of those preasure indicator valves, yesterday I see the rear one is red, 22lbs and not 36lbs, ooops. Pumped it up and had a look and I have picked-up a small nail or tack about dead-centre. I have left it alone but I will not risk leaving it there for very long.

If I take it to a dealer I believe they are obliged to take off the tyre to inspect it which makes a simple repair fairly expensive. What is the best course of action ???
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: gazingwa on April 21, 2005, 11:01:50 AM
I'd plug it as long as there is not other tire damage, check the spot every time you ride jsut in case though... plugging a tire isn't hard, you just need to know someone with a kit, I work at an equipment dealership, we have many of these kits, very easy

I wouldn't ride on it with the nail in there, it could start to tear the tire and cause a blowout, leaving you one good tire...

Not ideal
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: tdan553527 on April 21, 2005, 11:24:43 AM
If it's in the dead center, pull the tire and plug it from the inside and you'll be good to go. I wouldn't trust any other type of plug.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: gazingwa on April 21, 2005, 12:20:22 PM
we use the gum plugs that you puch in from outside, then put 4000 lbs on each tire (equipment trailers) works fine
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 24, 2005, 11:52:21 AM
Does anyone else have experience with using plugs. I currently have a nail in my new BT-45 :x (1,000 miles) and I would like to plug it and keep riding like normal. Has anyone put a lot of miles on a tire with a plug in it?
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: gazingwa on June 24, 2005, 11:55:47 AM
Like i said... plugged  a few equipment and trailer tires no problem, plugging from the inside would be safer, so if you don't want to risk it, take the wheel off, dismount and plug from the inside... I don't know how this applies to bike tires though...
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Jake D on June 24, 2005, 12:31:47 PM
I've used plugs in my Jeep tires before with no problem, but they were 33 inches tall. . . so.  Should be no big deal though to plug a bike tire though, even in the center.  

I enjoy the etymology of words like tyre, or tire in the US. It is interesting how our spelling/slang evolved.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Roadstergal on June 24, 2005, 12:37:12 PM
Quote from: Jake DI enjoy the etymology of words like tyre, or tire in the US. It is interesting how our spelling/slang evolved.

One common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
Oh, why can't the English learn to set
A good example to people whose English is painful to your ears?
The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English completely disappears.
In America, they haven't used it for years!
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: TheGoodGuy on June 24, 2005, 12:40:08 PM
the problem on a motorcycle tire is that if the thing fails your in trouble. Also in most cars (atleast for me) the plugs were in between treads, so the plug never touched the ground. However I dont know about where yours is. Well get it patched, ride it for a while and be careful but be ready to change to a new rear when possible.

I like cyclegear, teh next set will be from them, they got a tire protection warrenty if you buy your tires from them.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: davipu on June 24, 2005, 01:31:26 PM
just pull the tire off, and put a tube in there then you'll be fine.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: gazingwa on June 24, 2005, 02:02:00 PM
Quote from: davipujust pull the tire off, and put a tube in there then you'll be fine.

Note:  he is known for "worse" advice.......
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: BUZZIN on June 24, 2005, 03:13:36 PM
I picked up a big mother nail in the radial tire on my Yamaha Warrior.  The tire only had a few thousand miles on it, and being the cheap ass that I am, I plugged her.  I even did it with the licorice stick from the outside.  It really could have been a dumb move, but it worked fine until I wore it out.  It did make me a bit nervous at 135 mph though.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 24, 2005, 03:17:02 PM
Yea the nail is in between treads so I guess that is the best spot. if i plug it i hope to run the tires there expected life span. is that insane or just not a good idea?
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 24, 2005, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: BUZZINIt did make me a bit nervous at 135 mph though.
that's what I call "Speed Rated"
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Cal Price on June 24, 2005, 04:12:19 PM
I only used the plug for a few weeks, I replaced both tyres at just under 6500 miles and have fitted BT45s. I find them a great deal better than stock.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: knowlsey on June 24, 2005, 05:27:15 PM
If anyone is going to plug a bike tyre, make sure you also put a patch on the inside over the plug for extra safety, as long as the nail whent straight in and not at an angle it is usually ok, but i put some of that liquid seal in as an extra precaution
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: brembo on June 24, 2005, 06:12:26 PM
I picked up a nail in the last couple of weeks int he rear tyre. Getting it plugged is easy, and the mushroom plugs (inside nes) will last just as long as  the tyres does. Last 2 rear's I've had have picked up a screw and nail respectively.

I've only done about 2500km on this rear tyre, and I'm too cheap to replace it when it's good for another 8000km+.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: ashman on June 25, 2005, 12:03:35 AM
I plugged my ole metzler tyre w/ a outside walmart plug. It leaked down after a few days and I just got a new tire for 40 bux. A internal plug may have worked but for the price of a shop to remove the tyre for me I am just better off getting a new tyre.

-ash
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 25, 2005, 10:28:55 AM
Here is the F-ing Nail :x
(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a172/bluebellylint/0b1d2cd4.jpg)
so that is what it looks like in my new BT-45. Do you think a good plug will hold it?
I am on my way to the store right now to get one so I will keep you posted on how it works.
ThanX for all the advice!
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: gs500fromnb on June 25, 2005, 12:15:52 PM
well if you plan on not speeding and not cornering aggressively, then plug it from the inside with a patch that also has a plug (its like a round thing with a spout in the middle), make sure to put enough glue to seal it. If you plan to ride even somewhat agressively, buy a new tire, they are cheap. No shops will place a plug for you... and for good reason, no one wants to be held liable.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Blueknyt on June 25, 2005, 10:25:31 PM
ill give you 20$ for the tire, ill run a tire with a 1inch through and through cut.

QuoteOne common language I'm afraid we'll never get.
Oh, why can't the English learn to set
A good example to people whose English is painful to your ears?
The Scotch and the Irish leave you close to tears.
There even are places where English completely disappears.
In America, they haven't used it for years!

My Fair Lady? Henry Higgins? :mrgreen:

oh god, i am old :?
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 26, 2005, 01:58:56 AM
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on June 26, 2005, 03:32:10 PM
This seems to have done the trick. Air pressure remained at 35psi in my back tire but now I will have to check it before every ride just to make sure.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: mp183 on June 26, 2005, 03:37:55 PM
I picked up a small screw in my rear at about 3,000 miles.
Used RideOn and changed the tire out at 8,000+ miles.
I carry that and a mini compressor with me all the time.
The RideOn worked all year round.  Does not freeze, stays liquid so it keeps on working.  I used the bike all winter with the stuff in it.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on October 19, 2005, 05:59:12 PM
I said I would keep you posted so for anyone who will search for this.  I have put 2300 miles on the tire sence the slime was applied and the tire is still holding air. I ride just as aggressive as always and I'm fairly confident in my tire, but I still check it once in a wile to make sure.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: dhgeyer on October 20, 2005, 05:32:03 AM
Advantages of RideOnTPS over Slime:

More effective - Slime relies on consistency, while  RideOn TPS has thousands of microfibedrs that actually form a pemanent patch in the hole.  Very much like the way blood clots and forms a scab.

Stays liquid - I had to throw away a wheel that someone had put Slime in and left it there for years. It eventually formed a substance much like concrete that I could not get off without damaging the rim. RideOn TPS will not do this.

RideOn TPS will not corrode metal as it has anti corrosives in it. Slime will  eventually corrode aluminum or steel.

RideOn TPS can be used as a preventive measure. Put it in when you originally mount the tire. That way, you don't get the flat to begin with. Just make sure to check your tires regularly so you'll know if you do pick up a nail or whatever.  Over half the major trucking fleets in the country keep the stuff in all their tires.

Point about plugs that no one has made as yet: in steel belted radial tires, plugs can fail fairly quickly as a result of being cut by the belts, if the hole is too close to the belts. If you want to keep the tire, you need to get a patch on the hole from the inside.

Dave Geyer
Merrimack, NH
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: Bluebellylint on October 20, 2005, 09:08:24 AM
yea, I read about that stuff to and if I could do it over I would have used RideOn.  The only reason I didn't was that my local dealership didn't carry it and I would have to search around to much.  My bike wont be sitting for any long period of time so hopefully it'll be alright.
Title: Nail in tyre
Post by: dhgeyer on October 21, 2005, 09:22:35 AM
http://www.ride-on.com/index.html

Takes a week or so to get it.