After one year and three months of riding my GS, without even a drop, it was my turn to go down last Saturday. I went for a quick Saturday morning ride about 11:00 am. I was traveling on a well marked, well known rural highway with a good surface. I was going at a leisurely pace, about 50 mph, just cruising along, when I can upon a smaller county road intersection. The smaller county road stopped on both sides with the main hwy I was on passing straight thru. As a came into the intersection, I met a blue Chevy Impala traveling approximately the same speed as I was. This 'older' lady, failed to see the stop sign, (and the stop ahead sign for that matter). She was not braking, not looking... totally not paying attention to her surroundings. She was not from the area, and was unfamiliar with the road. She said later that she was lost, maybe she was reading a map, who knows.
I saw the car coming at me in a blue flash, there was hardly any time to react as there was very limited sight distance at this intersection. I grabbed brake, and got my foot on the rear, and the bike wobbled. I saw there was no way to avoid a collision so I squeezed harder on the front until the front tire screeched and the bike flopped on the right side. The bike laid down right at the moment of impact.
I saw the hubcap on the car right in my face and heard that awful bang sound. I was pushed under the rear panel of the car, under the gas tank and bumper, and slid under the rear of the car before clearing the car and sliding a total of 115 feet further down the road. My bike made full impact with the rear tire, and this caused the car to spin around about 150 degrees in the intersection. It blew out both rear tires on the car and broke the rear axle.
I slid at what felt like mach 3 forever, I could feel my lower legs burning. I tried to get over on my back to slide. When I did, my pants slide down far enough for me to get a good rash on my hip. At the end of the slide, I rolled over about 5-6 times right before I stopped. I laid there for a few minutes, half on, half off the road, scared to death about what my injuries were. After a minute, I sat up, and removed my jacket, gloves and helmet. I was shocked that I didn't see any blood. My legs were really burning at this point and I was worried. I decided I would get up slowly to see if my legs were broke. I got up and took a few steps. Much to my surprise, my legs worked! The lady was pretty hysterical and was screaming, "are you ok, are you ok, I almost killed you..." This was the only time I spoke to the lady, she asked if I was all right, and I said "I don't know" then I said, "Lady... you ran that stop sign!" She replied, "I know I did, I almost killed you"
A lady came out of a house and asked if I needed an ambulance, and I said YES! I need one. Then I decided I better lay back down. I got my cell out of my pocket, and called 911, and then I called my wife. Now there are a few people at the scene, and there are some women gathered around me. One gets a umbrella to keep the sun out of my face. I asked one lady to loosen my boots because my ankle was hurting/swelling. I asked the lady to have some men move my bike out of the road as it was in the way of traffic. The State Trooper finally arrived at the scene and I told him what happened, he told me I was a very lucky man. My wife arrived, and ran to embrace me. I told her I was ok, and that I was sorry. She said I had no reason to be sorry, it wasn't my fault, but I just felt bad that she was so scared for me.
The ambulance finally got there and they checked me out. They then asked what I wanted to do. Said they could transport me, but they came from a different town and I wanted to go to the Winfield ER. So they told me to have my wife drive me, but that I definitely needed to go the ER to get checked out. So I had my wife carry home and I changed into a pair of shorts before I went to the ER.
I was wearing a HJC cl-14 helmet, Joe Rocket Reactor S jacket, JR Reactor gloves, Icon Barrier denim pants, and Icon Superduty boots. I was mostly injured in 4 places: a pretty severe rash on my knee(softball size) where the pants got a hole, a sprained ankle and mild abrasions on right ankle, a puncture wound over ΒΌ inch deep on my left shin (haven't figured out what did this yet), and a cantaloupe size rash on my hip where pants slide down. The weakest part of my gear was the pants, if I'd have had leather pants, I would have been better off.
My jacket and gloves are ripped to shreds. I cannot imagine what my arms and hands would look like without them. Joe Rocket saved my hide. My helmet didn't have a scratch. My boots held up well and I believe they kept my ankle from breaking. My pants were the cause of my entire road rash.
My poor bike looks bad. It snapped one of the forks in half. It pushed the front wheel into the exhaust and bent/broke it. It bent the frame on the lower left side. I guess that means the bike it toast. The gauges didn't break, the motor is fixable and the rear end and plastics are fine. The stem could be bent, its really mangled in the front.
My thoughts: First off, I'm very lucky to be alive. I know that. If I had impacted the car, or went under the wheels I would be dead, no question. Obviously it was her fault, but that wouldn't make my parents or wife feel any better at my funeral. Right now I don't know what to think. I wish it had never happened. I loved my bike. Now whether I like it or not, motorcycling has been changed for me, forever. That sucks. I took every precaution I could to try to avoid a mishap at all times when riding, and I still got ran-over. If she had stopped at the stop sign, and pulled in front of me, I would have had a much better chance at avoiding her than with her just blowing thru the stop sign. The thought that keeps me up at night is what would have happened if my wife had been with me. She was helping a friend of hers move that morning. Had she been home, she might have rode with me. I cannot hardly stand the thought of her being hurt.
I'd like to ride again, I enjoyed commuting to work. I could see myself on a new F, but we'll have to see. Right now I'm pretty apprehensive about getting my money back for the bike, gear, plus all the doctors bills I've had. I already sought out some legal council. I can only hope everything comes out smooth.
T-bone a car at 50mph and walk away... what can you say but the Good Lord was watching over me, no doubt. Wear your gear guys, it saved me.
Stephen
Glad to hear you are alright, damn 4 wheelers are out to get you...
I would rest, wait a bit, heal and discuss it with your wife, I'm sure you will be less nervous after the pain has died down.
Sorry to hear about your experience, and good luck healing.
Thanks for sharing a story that can encourage others to be carefull and wear gear.
way to walk away from a horrible misshap, im glad to hear you came out as well as you did.
Send Icon some hate mail or a claims letter
Thank the Joe Rocket company
Heal fast, i'm sure you will find the itch to ride again one way or another
Lucky to be alive :thumb:
Don't let this sour you on riding.
Glad to hear your ok, I too went down at 50-60mph, and walked away. Not quite the same way.
A guy here in North Little Rock t-boned a car 2 days ago and was killed, of course he had no gear.
My gear also saved my hide, and now it has changed my life forever too, but I still ride and enjoy it very much, just at a slower pace now.
I also hated to call my wife and tell her that I went down. That was worse than the wreck.
Go hug your wife again and heal up soon.
Praise God you're alive! Hope the rest of you heals up well and quickly. Take your time, you've been given a second chance.
And, thank you for posting. Good info. I may have to get a pair of those jeans to go under my overpants, the overpants will just come right down; there's a reason for jacket-to-pant connector zippers.
Glad to hear that you walked away in decent shape. Material thing can be replaced. Crashing can make you a better rider.
Best to settle this without a lawyer at first. If things do not go your way then hire one. I have been through this before but with more injuries.
Wowzer!! Worst bike wreck I had was at about 50-60...my fault probably. Problem was it was the first time with no gear...was trying a friend's new Softail out on an impulse (never loan yer bike and never borrow). I had to get skin grafts from the rash. Wow you are so lucky to have had an angel on your shoulder. I also had a similar incidence on my Glide when a car pulled in front of me; I went off the road to avoid the car that time and didn't get hurt too bad but it tore up the front-end of the bike. Wow...wow Stephen, God I'm so glad you didn't get hurt bad. And your written description was so good that I could see it all in my mind's eye.
Hey, this will make you even more aware than you were before. If you still want to ride, try to get back on the "horse" after you heal up and do it in a place where you can work out the willies. But believe me, this WILL make you a better rider. Love the little Baby G, this forum, and you too Stephen.
C.......
you need to call a lawyer ASAP about this. Her insurance company will screw you if you don't have full coverage.
Nooooooooo!!!! Trust me, you need a lawyer. The adjusters sing a different tune as soon as an attorney gets on the line. You go from red tape to smooth sailing and a lot of "Yes, sir. Yes, sir."
Glad your alright. But for grace, there go I.
Don't worry about what to think of the whole riding thing until you've assessed the damage and had time for the whole situation to cool down. Glad you're OK.
I'd hunt the Buddha Loves You down with my shotty if I were you, and I'd be like hell she tried once already to kill me, I am just making sure she dosn't do it again. but that is me, I don't have a wife to worry about. I'd sue her for 3 things:
money for the bike and gear
money for the doctor bills
permanant licence revocation
side question, was she cited in the police report for being at fault?
What about pain and time out of work, don't forget that.
Thanks guys... I already have a lawyer, don't worry. And I'll say there is more to this case that I don't want to post yet for legal reasons. But on the bright side, things are in my favor.
Quote from: davipu
I'd sue her for 3 things:
money for the bike and gear
money for the doctor bills
permanant licence revocation
side question, was she cited in the police report for being at fault?
That is a good start, but you should ask for 3 times your medical bills in addition to the property damage.
The only way you could get at her license if your state has a "financial responsibility" law that requires drivers to carry at least liability insurance. In the absence of insurance on her part, your policy's "uninsured motorist" clause will cover your damamges. They'll then sue her for subrogation, and if she fails to pay, take her license. But you're in AL, and I don't know AL.
Kinda funny how vicious this thread turned,
from glad to hear you are ok, relax, heal :kiss:
to... sue her for everything she's worth, then linch her :guns:
I'm so sorry to hear about your mishap but glad you're okay and that you had the brains to wear your gear! Another reason I dont like the "armored" denim...but still probably better than regular denim.
Your world will be different now, no doubt but take your time and decide what is best for you when you have some distance to the accident.
:thumb:
Stephen, I'm glad you made it through as well as you did. I hope that everything works out well for you .. health and otherwise.
And thanks for the inspiration to improve my lower body protection. I always wear gloves/jacket/helmet but have been pretty lax in buying pants/armor. I think now I'll get both.
Just goes to show how quickly a good day of riding can turn bad.
Dave
WOW! Glad to hear you're going to be ok. If you want to host pics, you can upload them at my site, here: http://octaneonline.com/ipw-web/gallery/readersrides
Good luck with everything, and heal quickly. I have a titled '93 GS frame too if you get the itch to build your GS back up!
glad to hear that you're ok, (for the most part). makes me wonder about my icon jacket. ah well... i hope i don't have to find out how my jacket will fare in an accident. seriously though, hope that you heal quickly and get back on a bike. (i understand if you don't though). :cheers:
-brian-
Pictures are UP! (Up in Stephen's original post, that is.)
Stephen, I remember well the "continuous replay" after sailing over that cow and compression-fracturing 2 vertebrae. It will take weeks for the images to stop playing, and months before you'll be comfortable going past that intersection again.
But (unfortunately??) the insecurities DO fade. I went on the first of my LONG trips 8 months after my accident. Cross-country! By myself!
Just give it time.... :thumb:
Thanks Kerry :thumb:
WOW :o :o Glad you're well enough to post.
Just try and heal man, mind and body. You're alive, not hurt badly, and everything else is negotiable.
Holy fun bags! One lucky dude.
One cashed GS.
Yo man, Glad to hear you are okay. God has a plan for you :) Your post really made me think!
Want to read something sad (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=145749#145749)? :(
I know you probably won't be up for that ride, but hopefully you will remember the kinds of plans you had ... and let 'em work on ya for a while. :thumb:
PS - Stephen, you thanked me just before I posted the addition to my first message above. :roll:
wow man, I am Glad the good Lord was watching over you! They should make it the law to take classes to watch out for cycle riders. people in 4 wheel vehicles just dont care half the time!!
if you can say any good came out of this. you have all showed us how important it is to wear the gear and have given me personaly a great confedants in my Joe Rocket gear.
I hope you ride again. good luck !
If I may add some levity here: picture no. 2...now that's a short wheelbase!
im glad your injuries wernt as bad as they could have been. i hope you heal well. nothing scares you more then a threat to your life from someone else.
As to the bike frame, the engine cradle looks to be the only thing that got dented, if the main mounts didnt shift/ break the engine mount lugs, you should be ok, you can heatup and hammer the cradle back without issue. the biggest concern in bent frames is steering stem,Main spine/perimeter box, and swingarm. you can cut the subframe off and still steer straigt if those 3 arnt bent. this might be the time to cosider that Katana 600 frontend Mod.
Good thing your alright. A girl skipped a stop sign and i hit her the same way you did, but i was only going 60 KMPH. One lane, couldnt avoid her, i tried, but i couldnt stop and went over the hood haha, i didnt get hurt at all, but i yelled like hell at her. Made her cry :thumb: Anyways. GOod thing your alright. :cheers:
Sorry to hear about your wreck, Stephen. Keep that road rash clean and use a lot of neosporin. Soak it when it feels tight.
I went down in regular jeans and a t-shirt a long time ago, lot's o' rash and a broke shoulder. I hung out by the pool all day, soaking when it started to pull against the skin, and then neosporin after getting out.
My doctor was really amazed at how well it healed, smooth, no bumps, or heavy scarring. Considering I had a hole all the way to my shoulder blade, all turned out well. Give it a try if the rash is heavy enough to need it.
Good luck with the settlement part of it, I think you'll do ok, cause she really can't pull 'I didn't see you ' card, she was in the wrong before she ever collided with you.
You moved the car in an arc...lot of weight to move. Your bikes kinetic energy was around 40-50 thousand FT-LB. Baby G held up pretty good I would say. And from the sounds of it, you too. Ah, but wait till all the shock and adrenaline wears off. Smoke 'em if you got 'em. Love the mighty Baby GS and this forum.
C.......
glad you got away with only mild injuries. I hope your body and your spirit heal up quickly.
Holy crap. Just thinking of the image of you going UNDER the car gives me the jitters. I am so glad to hear you came out of that more or less in tact. Take is easy and heal well. It's good to see your gear (most of it, at least) did its job.
WoW :o Very visual description and you know, u had a guardian angel with you there on the back of your bike ;) ... It's great to hear you made it out of that in one piece.
Heal quick.
JG
I'm glad you came out of the incident relatively unhurt. Driving on the roads is always a system of trust, no matter what anyone says. You trust people not to blow through stop signs, you trust people not to cut across a couple lanes of traffic cause they decided at that moment they needed to make a left turn.
On another note, good on ya! Your GS took out the rear axle of the car and spun it around? Sweet! :thumb:
You made it out quite well for what you described as happening - and your gear isn't as shredded as you said, but hell, it did its job and that's what counts.
I also like how important your wife is to you. It's amazing how many people resent their wives/husbands for one reason or another, and it's refreshing to read about how much they love one another. Good on ya. ;)
Glad you're ok. Hope you won't give up riding forever, though a break is certainly in order. :P
And the woman admitted she made a mistake - your odds of being compensated are good, but why does everyone get so murderous over this? She made a mistake - it happens. You were lucky and she was lucky for not killing you. She will be punished (and hopefully learn her lesson) and you will be compensated accordingly. There's no need to go talking about guns and lynching...geezus. :nono:
Bravo Jen. Everybody makes mistakes and, luckily, this woman's mistake didn't get someone killed. I'll bet it's a long time before she ever makes that same mistake again. I'm sure it's playing over in her head also. Now, if she had done it on purpose... Love the little twin and this forum.
C.......
yeah, it sounds like you got lucky as far as the type of person who hit you. Only problem is, she won't be writing the check, her insurance will.
That being said, no reason to be a hater just because she drives a car. All of us have driven a car at some point, and I'd bet all of us have had moments where we didn't pay attention and did a stupid move while driving.
It was her bad luck to have done it when someone elses life was at stake. As for those of us that got away with our stupid moves, we were luckier, not smarter or better drivers.
Again, heal quick, Stephen :cheers:
thanks for sharing your experience and your thoughts. i'm with jen that your thoughts about your wife were very touching. i just took my girlfriend to get some gear this past weekend, but the bike shop was closed by the time we got there :dunno: thanks to your post, i'm not letting her on the bike with me again until we get her proper gear. i hope you heal up well and you don't have to go through too much crap with the litigation. good luck :thumb:
QuoteBravo Jen. Everybody makes mistakes and, luckily, this woman's mistake didn't get someone killed. I'll bet it's a long time before she ever makes that same mistake again. I'm sure it's playing over in her head also. Now, if she had done it on purpose... Love the little twin and this forum.
I give her two weeks after the end of the court stuff to do something really stupid again.
Dav, you're as cynical as Bebe...she said the same thing. Ok, place yer bets ever'body. Love the GS and I like this forum too.
C......
it's human nature to forget that kind of thing after a fortnight or so. if we are lucky she will be in like a fast food drive through and realize she is rolling foward and rear ends the idiot in front of her, and that fattie is too close to the wall to get out of his car and goes on a subway diet. therefore starting a new diet craze that rocks the nation. all because of you getting hit on your moto-scooter.
Stephen,I hope you understand where this is coming from. If you really enjoyed riding before, the desire will return. My dad for instance rode his ST 1300 from Rose Bud, AR up to Alaska this past summer. Had a great time except for a lot of forest fire smoke that ruined the view most of the time. Anyway, not two weeks back home he was almost done in by a guy pulling out from the right and turning left in front of him. Dad was beside a big SUV that was turning right at the intersection. The guy couldn't see Dad so just pulled out because the SUV had his signal on,(unheard of around here, how about where you are from?) All of a sudden there is a car in front of him. Grabbed all the brakes he had and went down on the left side. He hit the road pretty hard. Tore everything loose from his shoulder blade. It hangs rather funny now below a sticking up collar bone. Nothing they can do about it!! He spent a couple days in the hospital and it hurt bad for a while. He still hasn't and probably won't get all of his strength back in his grip. It happened on a Monday and on Friday he hopped up on his KLR 650 and rode to Quitman for a Church fish fry. He is 67 yrs old this year! He wants to try a 48 state ride this summer!! Just can't figure out the route yet I guess or when would be the best time to try.
The damage was $4,000 to the machine, mostly plastic. Helmet and leather jacket saved his skin. Just a little rash where his shirt grabbed the flesh on impact.
I have been run off the road twice in one morning, been pulled out in front of numerous times, high sided in a panic stop when two pickups pulled out like they were glued together. The first one was no problem but the second should have waited. When we all came to a stop I opened my eyes to look up at the bottom of his front bumper with his front tire almost touching my helmet!! Scary indeed. The first guy called the police on his radio. It was cold out so I was really covered up. No injury to me and only accessory damage to the bike which he paid me for in cash after I got prices. Many, many, many close calls. The point is I still go outside, drive (well, ride again now that I once again have a bike) to work where I use punch presses, press brakes, spot welders, operate mig welders, plasma torches, and sundry power tools. I could get maimed badly at work at any time if I wasn't careful or properly trained or wearing the proper protective equipment. I get the odd cut now and again, smash my fingers or thumb with a hammer etc., but I still need to go to support my wife and six kids. You do what you have to do and a lot of what you want to do. I hope you will want to ride again. Nothing better for me than a ride home after work to make it all better. Now after reading most of this before going to sleep and then waking up wondering where you are I hope you get better soon and get back after it. KEEP THE GEAR ON!!!
Quote from: Stephen072774it was my turn to go down last Saturday.
what a bummer dude... heal well bro :cheers:
Woweee ... scareeeee ... Glad you're OK, rashed and bruised ... but OK.
Bike ... yea can be replaced ... pretty much contrary to what some people think ... its a mass of metal and plastic and rubber and other material.
Cool.
Srinath.
A real eye opener for noobz like myself. Today was the first day I rode a few miles without my leather... Suddenly this gives me a totally new perspective on riding.
Get well...
Jonah
Thanks for all your well wishes... I knew that telling you guys and gals would make me feel better. You can imagine what all the non-biker folks I work with are saying... its nice to hear from people that understand. I'm gonna be fine, and tho I'll be bikeless a while, I'll be around here, with a smile on my face :mrgreen: .
Well glad that you are still alive, and sorry to hear about your bike. Hope you heal quickly.
wow, sorry to hear man...i'm glad that you made out as well as you did, get better soon...
- alex
Stephen,
I can totally relate to your feelings regarding making that call to your wife. My heart was pounding when I read that. The emotion of your experience reminded me of a story.
When I was a teenager I got into a rollover accident in my mom's van. I was driving and had a friend in the car with me. We were going too fast (not wrecklessly, but too fast) and I hit something (I think it was a large pothole, or a big broken chunk of asphalt, but I can't remember which) as I was going (too fast) into a sharp right hand curve. (the curve sign was obscured, and I didn't notice it coming up) The van fishtailed, and I couldn't get it back under control. It spun ~90 degrees and started going over.
As the car started spinning, my friend had his window down and his arm and palm resting on the widowsill. When the van started to roll he braced himself by gripping the sill harder, and the van came over and crushed his knuckles into oblivion. I remember the feeling of the van rolling and my head hitting the headliner. I closed my eyes at that point and everything went muffled.
When I came to, I was dangling from my seatbelt. I looked over at my friend. He was clutching his right arm by the wrist below what was left of his right hand, and he was staring at me with this panicked expression. The sound kind of faded in a few seconds afterward, and I realized he was screaming. Screaming and staring at me. I climbed out of the car and ran to the nearest house for help. an ambulance came and my mom (who's pretty nervous to begin with) met us at the hospital.
A few things have stuck with me from that:
1) The look on my friend's face as he was clutching his mangled hand, staring at me and screaming.
2) The look on my mom's face when they gurneyed me into the ER.
Needless to say, That accident comes to my mind when I'm riding. I never want to see another loved one looking over me with that expression on their face, and even more so, I never want to see another person I hold dear get hurt in a situation where I was controlling the vehicle. I don't think I could ever forgive myself. Tahera (my wife) has gone for rides with me and she's enjoyed it, but I've gotta say the sense of responsibility in those situations is just awesome. The thought of her getting hurt really is more than I can bear. It's bad enough when I relate a near miss to her.
I'm glad that it was you making the phone call. I'm glad your wife wasn't riding with you. I'm really really glad. Even if she didn't get hurt, it would've been something I'm sure that would weigh very heavily on you.
Heal up quick, and thanks for the lesson to all of us. I know I'll think of it the next time I'm riding on a backroad somewhere.
Regards,
Riz
IF there is anything I can do let me know, even if it's just more prayer, good luck with healing and I'm glad you're still with us!
What struck me while reading your story was your positive attitude. You mentioned you probably will be back on a bike sometime in the future, you were glad about your gear working, and although saddened by the GS, were thinking of an F model to replace it.
Glad to hear you will be alright, and I hope you get what you need out of the driver. As said before, hug your wife!
Just read this
I'm glad you are okay and all of my best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Take care, Stephen.
I dont personaly think (Most) cagers set out to kill those of us on bikes. The problem is, most cagers who do cause the accidents with bikes are so complacant (sp?) and allow themselves to become distracted from the enviroment. this i find very stupid, mistakes happen but i have a very hard time forgiving STUPID Mistakes. not paying attention to what is around you while operating a heavy machine is stupid. not much differnt from fireing a gun at a target without know whats behind it. Or ligting a smoke while pumping fuel. Runing a stopsign..........
glad you are (mostly) ok. heal well.
everything else -- the bike, the insurance, the lady -- is secondary, really.
edit: oh yeah. those paramedics should be put in front of a wall and f%$king shot. goddamn assholes trying to get out of doing their jobs at the expense of your health.
Quote from: crashoh yeah. those paramedics should be put in front of a wall and f%$king shot. goddamn assholes trying to get out of doing their jobs at the expense of your health.
Hey "crash" those are some insightful and intelligent comments you have made!
I have been a professional firefighter for 27 years and the department that I work for also provides paramedic service.
There are rules and regulations that dictate where the paramedics can transport patients. They are not at liberty to just transport to any community that they wish.
If you reread "Stephen072774's" account of the accident it is clear that he was not seriously injured. He even made time to go home first and change into shorts before going to the hospital. The paramedics offered to transport him to the hospital they were required to go to but he wanted to go to an emergency room of his choice.
Quote from: stephenThe ambulance finally got there and they checked me out. They then asked what I wanted to do. Said they could transport me, but they came from a different town and I wanted to go to the Winfield ER. So they told me to have my wife drive me, but that I definitely needed to go the ER to get checked out. So I had my wife carry home and I changed into a pair of shorts before I went to the ER.
I am personally offended by your profane, ignorant and offensive remarks, and I do not think the majority of the membership of this forum appreciates them either!
Bob
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You are one lucky dude! Heal up fast and good luck with everything! :thumb:
Accident scenario is similar to the Janklow incident.
I'm on the highway every day and am in the habit of easing off the throttle a bit and covering the brake at intersections when vehicles are present--moving or not. Definitely pays to be a defensive driving obsessive-compulsive when motorcycling. :roll:
well "Bob", considering i am an EMT, i hardly consider my remarks ignorant. they were, in fact, "insightful and intelligent".
he could have had a fractured spinal column, or internal bleeding, or a myriad of other problems, none of which can be diagnosed in the field, and most definitely not by the patient.
the fact that they told him to "definitely" go to the ER means that they suspected that he could be seriously injured. the fact that they suggested his wife drive him there means that they are, in fact, f%$king assholes who were too lazy to do their jobs, and while shooting them is not an option, firing them seems just.
they were damn lucky that Stephen, by some stroke of luck or devine intervention, was _not_ seriously injured. because you would be singing a different song if he went into shock on his way to the ER with no one but his wife there to help him.
spare me the professional courtesy bullshit.
Good to hear you're not heavily damaged. It certainly isn't every day somebody walks away from hitting a car at that speed! You have some damn good luck on your side. :o
Heal up soon, but be careful not to heal to your sheets. :?
They're all in such a damn hurry to get to Wal Mart for a can of beans. I nearly flattened a girl a few months ago pulling out of there. Yakking on the cell and doing her makeup. You'd think a bright orange dump truck in a full slide would make an impression. Didn't have a clue. Never even saw me. Luckily for her I saw her "inching" as I was approaching.
They're not so much out to kill us. They just don't have a clue. They kill themselves more often than not. :roll:
Quoteand most definitely not by the patient
while true to a point, even you As an EMT can not FORCE someone onto a backboard and transport them against thier wishes if they are lucid and mentaly stable enough to answer EMT questions.
Even the Police cant do that leagaly unless he broke the law and was under arrest.
Massive bleeding,missing limb, gunshot wound, you cant touch him if he refuses treatment in a mentaly coherent mannor. you can Visualy monitor and attempt to convince him its for the best. but you cant touch him. Once he can no longer answer or isnt controling himself, then you have free rein to stablise the subject for transport. otherwise they sign off refusing treatment.
But as an EMT you would know this already. :mrgreen:
Thank you "Blueknyt". I appreciate the support.
I stand by my previous comments, as they were certainly substantiated by "crash's" last refreshing message.
Bob
i doubt they would have had to force him. it's all a matter of having to accept a patient refusal AMA vs working a refusal out of the patient.
i have lurked this forum for a while and dont even own a bike yet, but after reading your post it has given me a lot to think about. Im glad to hear that you are ok. and thank god you were wearing your gear. i live in myrtle beach and during bike weeks it is so scarry to see so many people in teeshirts and shorts and girls wearing next to nonthing. this was a bad mishap, and i hope when you heal up you feel like riding agine.
Glad to hear you're OK Stephen. It got my heart pounding just reading your post.
I'm a new rider, and found that the costs for all that protective gear can really mount when you're first starting out. I've not yet forked out the cash for protective pants, but I'm sure thinking about it now.
Heal fast!
Neil.
Crash, the biggest issue i see with your whole comment is shown in stephen 's discription. That being the Lack of your name or you showing up on site as a rider or EMT. Like Me, you wernt there. Unless you were there to know what was asked,check,looked at poked proded and articles of clothing cut to get the answers that you would ask. you insulting another EMT,paramedic,or any other medical response personel when you wernt there to wittness the examunation, is beyound un professional and deserves retraction and apollogy to stephen.
I'm glad you're going to be okay, Stephen.
Stephen, I'm glad to hear that you're ok. :thumb:
I had a crash back in 07/03 that had me out of work for 8 months.
My wife knew how much I missed riding, so she brought me my 2001 GS back in 10/04. I'm glad to be back in the saddle.
Just take all the time you need, but don't let this crash keep you from doing something that you love: RIDING.
Once you get back to it, you'll love it even more.
Take care.
Steve aka TPR5699