http://www.big-boys.com/articles/newbrakes1.html
Bet that didn't feel too good.
One reason I have no interest in stoppies. :thumb:
sorry but that was funny :lol:
they never show the aftermath on those clips...I always wanna see if they walk away or not.
wow though....the tail of that r6 slaming down on the ground didn't miss his balls by much. So you figure a few hundred pound plus the momentum...and that's enough to crush your nuts into a pulp....which is always nice :thumb:
Jonah
incase you didn't know,
his front tire popped while doing the stoppie
sucks, but shaZam! happens
ever checked out www.uponone.com it has some cool videos
DAM all that nice plastic really likes to explode! :o
Quote from: '04gs500fincase you didn't know,
his front tire popped while doing the stoppie
sucks, but shaZam! happens
Yea you can hear it blow right before he takes off on his flight.
Maybe he should get some icyhotstunt tires for his xxxtreme lifestyle :lol:
nice sig
I think he was alright.
Anyway. . .They taught us in the MSF course that if your front tire blows out during a stoppie that you need to ease off the break, settle your weight back onto the seat, signal to your friend that you may be having a problem and that your bike my enter his path of travel, calmly tuck your head between and begin your dismount. This usually happens pretty fast so, some of the steps can get rushed.
The acronym they gave us for this procedure was: KYAGB.
QuoteMaybe he should get some icyhotstunt tires for his xxxtreme lifestyle
Ahhh....IcyHot Stuntaz :mrgreen:
OK, this is just my opinion on this subject so if you dont like it, oh well...
This has got to stop, a biker just wrecked because of a blowout and all you guys can do is crack jokes? Granted the video is old, and he is stunting. But I own the video this happened in, they are on a closed road havin fun. So their riding styles differ from your own, what gives you the right to judge them. I hate how every time someone brings up the topic of stunting everyone jumps on the calamari wagon. Grow up...
Well I think if you take the risk of stunting then you also accept the risk of people laughing at you when you fall. Don't cry buddy.... :(
Sorry Danny.
I was under the impression that these guys are the type of guys that have an accident like that, get up and laugh it off and put a video of it on the internet. Didn't know we had to be so sullen. I wonder what those guys would say if they knew that people were so mamby pamby about the subject?
We were all very concerned when you wrecked, so it isn't as if we don't have compassion for those that go down. I loath the day that ever happens to me. * knocking on wood *
But I've got a lot of respect for people that can do that. I hope he was uninjured.
Now can anybody tell me the best way to dry off when you get a bucket of cold water dumped on you?
Oh no, i apologize, you dont need to be sullen. I know when i went down playin around on my bike i got up right away and was laughing at my mishap, hell i even laughed about my major crash (which im remembering less and less of, lol). No, my major concern is that every time someone posts a pic of or vid of someone stunting (regardless of crashing or not) people run to yell squid, or make fun of them. Sorry if my post came out wrong, and no, there is no reason to be sullen, i to hope he was ok.
Quote from: DanielyOh no, i apologize, you dont need to be sullen. I know when i went down playin around on my bike i got up right away and was laughing at my mishap, hell i even laughed about my major crash (which im remembering less and less of, lol). No, my major concern is that every time someone posts a pic of or vid of someone stunting (regardless of crashing or not) people run to yell squid, or make fun of them. Sorry if my post came out wrong, and no, there is no reason to be sullen, i to hope he was ok.
I was going to say somthing but thought i would keep my mouth shut cause they seem to want to tell me the same thing. But I agree with you on this one. The bashing of others who might ride wheelies or stoppies is getting really old now.
A. F'ing up your bike is no more a "riding style" than hitting yourself in the crotch with a hammer is a sexual position. It might be fun the first couple of times you do it, but you'll eventually find yourself in a cast wishing you had never swung that hunk of metal.
B. Stunting in a safe place is okay because it doesn't affect most of us. That is, unless he has his insurance pay for the bike in which case he makes it more expensive for the rest of us to insure an R6.
Quote from: 94suzuki500Quote from: DanielyOh no, i apologize, you dont need to be sullen. I know when i went down playin around on my bike i got up right away and was laughing at my mishap, hell i even laughed about my major crash (which im remembering less and less of, lol). No, my major concern is that every time someone posts a pic of or vid of someone stunting (regardless of crashing or not) people run to yell squid, or make fun of them. Sorry if my post came out wrong, and no, there is no reason to be sullen, i to hope he was ok.
I was going to say somthing but thought i would keep my mouth shut cause they seem to want to tell me the same thing. But I agree with you on this one. The bashing of others who might ride wheelies or stoppies is getting really old now.
I was, briefly, a stunter apologist, out of respect for Danny. Get this through your head: Stunters make fun of stunters. Stunters laugh at other stunters, beat up other stunters, share good times with other stunters, show concern for other stunters, and yes, even defend the practice of stunting. Don't get your panties in a twirl just because we ALSO have a laugh at a stunter's expense. They think it is funny too.
No one get offended but this is like a white person calling a black person a n*gger but they can call each other that all day, and also like brothers can beat up each other all day long but if someone elses messes with the other they both stand as a unit. maybe look at it that way?
Quote from: conflicttheoristA. F'ing up your bike is no more a "riding style" than hitting yourself in the crotch with a hammer is a sexual position.
I'm a complete noob, so take what I say with the appropriate measure of salt:
I don't see why one group's activities are not a valid riding style simply because they involve a greater measure of risk. It would appear to me that if someone wants to assume more risk to themselfs in order to show off, feel cool, or whatever - that is up to them. In my opinion, stunting is just as valid as driving 10mph under at all times. Both might be extremes, but neither are heinous.
Maybe I just haven't been riding long enough to feel such aversion towards stunters, just like I haven't developed a dislike for Harley Riders either.
It would seem to me that this sport, like all sports, has room for the defensive, the aggressive as well as the middle of the road types.
if you believe that stunters only stunt in enclosed/ limited access areas and never do that kind of thing in a public right -of-way, then I got some ocean front property in AZ to sell you....
seriously though, if they did than it would be cool that they do what they do. but they don't - even the highest paid ones will do the interstate stuff just for the thrill and that's why they get hated on. because they are out there fking it up for the rest of us, giving ALL riders a bad name. you don't see the headline "member of starboyz stunt team while off duty wearing just a helmet died in an at fault accident on local interstate while preforming unsafe manuvers." instead it's " motorcyclist dies in tragic accident today running several cars off the road. more to fallow after the commercial break........ ... today, a young 20year old male died on I-() while preforming "stunts" on his motorcycle (sobbing mother of some other kid who just bought a bike, "blaw blaw blaw" "motorcycles are so bad, i wish they were never invented" "blaw blaw blaw" related to this story is a study on local riding habits of motorcycles, we found that riders are evil, blaw blaw blaw.......
does that help clarify why everyone hates on stunters?
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does that help clarify why everyone hates on stunters?
I understand....thnx for clarifying.
Still not sure if I totally agree with hating on stunters - though I certainly understand where you are coming from. From your clarification, I think age and perspective play a large part in this as well. My age and position are probably decidedly different than yours.
I can see how stunters projecting the image they do to the general populus would be detrimental to the image many riders might wish to portray. However, that "bad ass" image is the sort of image that others are seeking and is therefore useful to them.
Heh, I never realized riding was so political - though I guess it makes sense that it is. =)
I point and laugh, and I don't see any problem with doing so.
I would also point and laugh if these guys were bungee jumping and hurt themselves, or their equipment.
Likewise, if I engage in an activity that is considered stupid and risky, I'd expect to hear some snickers when I got hurt. That's life.
Doesn't mean I won't appreciate seeing stunts done, or hanging out with stunters, or even maybe try them myself occaisionally.
It just means I'm not gonna coddle someone who has decided to take a risk and messed up.
just for the record, I would stunt. I hope to one day and everyone takes a risk honestly. if you want to talk stupid you can name anything to be stupid really, why do people eat to much? why do people drive cars and get in gridlock traffic, hell why do people ride motorcycles at all "seems kinda dangerous" to the general population.
while some bikers may say stunting is stupid, alot of non bikers say riding a motorcycle in general is stupid, all levels of risk . its all the same thing.
i guess when a guy breaks his arms and ribs at a moto-cross event he was stupid for riding a dirt bike?
and as far as having fun on public streets. id say go for it. life is all a risk anyways. cant walk on eggshells.
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and as far as having fun on public streets. id say go for it. life is all a risk anyways. cant walk on eggshells.
Ever heard the saying "your right to swing your fist ends at my nose"? Stunting on public streets puts other people at risk for nothing more than the sake of your adrenaline addiction or desire to look cool. Yes, they're taking a chance just getting on the road anyway, but that chance shouldn't include having to deal with anyone trying to prove they've got a pair by riding wheelies at 80mph in the middle of traffic, traveling at triple-digit speeds, or any other quote-unquote unsafe behavior. Reckless op is a felony in most states for a reason.
I have no problem at all with people stunting on private roads, parking lots, airstrips, or what have you. But when I get passed by a pack of squids doing wheelies and jumping off their bikes to catch air while some guy in an SUV tails them to get it all on camera, my blood pressure shoots through the roof. If you aren't worried about hurting yourself, fine -- better to burn out than fade away or however you want to justifty it -- just have the common courtesy to not involve any unwilling participants in your shenanigans. I don't want to be the guy driving the car that's in your bike's way when you put your front end down in a wobble and flip it into my lane.
Jazzzzz, I think I may have to agree with you. In addition, let me give some more pointers on various activities that a few people do (and shouldn't) : "Smoking 15 cigars a day is bad." "Drinking a lieter of Vodka a day can kill you," "Sprinting down a construction zone with a blindfold on is dangerous."
Now before you say "those are extream, ridiculous examples" I want you to look at your post. What examples did you give? Popping a wheelie "in the middle traffic" at 80MPH? Ok, not only have I never seen that, but no one, not even a stunter is going to tell you that you should pop a wheelie while lane-splitting and doing 80mph. Like I said, that is an extreame, borderline absurd, example.
What else did you say? A "pack" doing wheelies and "jumps" while they are being recorded by a speeding SUV? Oh, I see that every freakin' day.
What I'm trying to say is; if you use the extreams of a behavior to discredit the entire behavior, you are being disengenuos. Especially since the topic started about a guy falling over doing a stopie. How dangerous is a stopie to you as a car driver? I suppose a burnout would be a little dangerous to you nose and lungs, but I seriously doubt it would have you calling 911.
Sure, a wheelie in anything but the lightest traffic is stupid, and if a cop sees it, the person WILL get pulled over. But, uh, going 80mph in trafic is stupid too, and if a cop sees it, he'll pull you over.
I don't think it's necessary to equate "stunting on public roads" as categorically evil and dangerous. To be sure, if executed at the wrong time, in the wrong way, it can be severly hazardous - but to imply that all stunters are squids and posers is a gross generalization and does not take into account numerous factors that are involved.
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and as far as having fun on public streets. id say go for it. life is all a risk anyways. cant walk on eggshells.
That's fine when YOU are walking on eggshells. Don't involve other people in YOUR risks.
This is why the general public tends to have a distaste for 'bikers'. When some moron goes up the highway at 130mph inbetween traffic they are endagering people, people's kids, etc. that is TOTALLY different from these stunters on private roads or whatnot
themaffeo, I have several times been witness to groups of stunters doing exactly what I described (only saw the chase van once). If you live in a metropolitan area you'll run into it eventually. There aren't many people "riding to the exxxtreme" out there, but they are there. The vast majority of motorcyclists don't ride that way, but they aren't the ones the public focuses on, as was pointed out earlier in the thread.
There's no valid reason to do a wheelie on a public road, period. There is no valid reason to do a stoppie on a public road, period. If you like riding wheelies and stoppies, riding "superman" or whatever it's called, etc. that's fine -- I'm not saying you shouldn't ever do it (they're fun). I 'm just saying don't do it on public roads where other people could get hurt if there's a mishap.
For reference, I don't have a problem with what the guy featured in the video that started this thread was doing -- he accepted the risks of what he was doing, as did everyone else present, and they were all in a confined area with no one else around. The majority of the stunter videos that I have seen were filmed on public highways where traffic can be clearly seen in the background, and THOSE are the guys I have a problem with.
Quote from: JazzzzzIf you like riding wheelies and stoppies, riding "superman" or whatever it's called, etc. that's fine -- I'm not saying you shouldn't ever do it (they're fun). I 'm just saying don't do it on public roads where other people could get hurt if there's a mishap.
Sounds good to me =)