Got my GS a couple months ago and it is the greatest vehicle to use living in Chicago. I want to put an aftermarket exhaust on it and can get the V/H exhaust for $250. I read some other posts with what people have done. Just looking to hear some more ideas, or what's best for this bike. How does a Yosh slip-on work out?, what model? Thanks. Great forum and website.
im wondering the same thing.
and another thing whats better the slip on or a full exhaust? :icon_rolleyes:
V & H doesint make that exhaust anymore, and it doesint fit on the F because of the oil pan or something not exactly sure.
Alfafire knows exactly why the V&H won't work. I think the bolts hit the oil cooler on the 04's and above. You can get the flage from Sinrath and a wileyco tho. Or if you want you can get just about any slip on and have a muffler shop fab you a mid pipe. Boss500 did that with a yoshi tri oval exhaust. Search yoshi you will find pic's of his bike.
Here's the link to his bike
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=21819.0
For the easiest exhaust on the GS500F just go with the Srinath exhaust flange and a Wileyco muffler. You will only spend ~$150.00 compared to the $200.00+ for the V&H. He is getting orders for some of his flanges as we speak. Go to this link for more info:
http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=24471.0
No one as of yet makes an bolt-on exhaust system for our F models. You can always modify something to make a slipon fit.
Laser deep tone fits... 480 smackers. :o
Quote from: un1261 on March 17, 2006, 04:38:03 AM
Laser deep tone fits... 480 smackers. :o
I forgot about the Laser... I haven't seen or heard of anyone who has it tho.
their was one guy, but he never posted back on it.
the v&h exhaust fits with no problems i have it on my 05
Quote from: jason1080 on March 18, 2006, 08:39:16 AM
the v&h exhaust fits with no problems i have it on my 05
really?
can you post good pics of the install?
Quote from: jason1080 on March 18, 2006, 08:39:16 AM
the v&h exhaust fits with no problems i have it on my 05
I'm calling BS. You had to have tweeked it in order for it to clear the oil pan bolts. There simply isn't enough room under there for it to work. Let's see it.
Hey guys,
Just do what i did, buy an exhaust for a yamaha yzf600r from 99-02. It will fit it just fine.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5488/exhaust0017ns3hx.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1197/exhaust0059eg0tj.jpg)
Stefan.
Quote from: stefman722 on March 18, 2006, 03:32:28 PM
Hey guys,
Just do what i did, buy an exhaust for a yamaha yzf600r from 99-02. It will fit it just fine.
Stefan.
Sure it fit for you, but with modifications... We're talking about just bolt-on.
Ah. The only mods needed to be done was for it to be welded on. Simple enough. But i know what you mean.
Quote from: stefman722 on March 18, 2006, 03:32:28 PM
Hey guys,
Just do what i did, buy an exhaust for a yamaha yzf600r from 99-02. It will fit it just fine.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5488/exhaust0017ns3hx.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1197/exhaust0059eg0tj.jpg)
Stefan.
That looks great, nice work. How does it sound?
Thanks, I like it very much. I get lots of compliments on the sound of the bike on cruise nights (weekly meeting of cars/bikes). A rider at a red light on a R6 told me he loves the sound. Its alot louder then stock, and doesnt sound like no sewing machine, has a deep tone to it. It even shoots flames sometimes. no joke haha. :thumb:
Stefman, that looks really really nice! I like the dual outlet thing it has going on, very good looking. As for the flame shooting though... sounds like you're in need of a rejet!
Hey,
Yeah i rejetting the thing, it does flames because i MAKE it produces them. If i told you guys how you would kick me in the face, haha. Its just a little backfire.
dude tell us
hey iw as just reading the post, i think last november i installed a vance and hines exhaust that was made for the gs500e on my 2005 gs500f. i had no problems with getting it to fit under the oil pan or obstructions with bolts. it just bolted right on. now the one problem i did have with it was where it bolted into the manifold. since there were no gaskets or a very good bolt on seal or what not. it leaked exhaust like there was no tomorrow. so i just went up to autozone baught some muffler repair cement, and some gasket material. slapped those on and now it works and sounds beautifully. i will get some pictures tonight or tomorrow and show you guys. other than were it connects i had no problems putting it on.
Quote from: cphillips83 on March 21, 2006, 09:13:28 AM
hey iw as just reading the post, i think last november i installed a vance and hines exhaust that was made for the gs500e on my 2005 gs500f. i had no problems with getting it to fit under the oil pan or obstructions with bolts. it just bolted right on. now the one problem i did have with it was where it bolted into the manifold. since there were no gaskets or a very good bolt on seal or what not. it leaked exhaust like there was no tomorrow. so i just went up to autozone baught some muffler repair cement, and some gasket material. slapped those on and now it works and sounds beautifully. i will get some pictures tonight or tomorrow and show you guys. other than were it connects i had no problems putting it on.
Yeah, I'd like to see it because I really don't think there is enough room in there for the header pipes.
Quote from: cphillips83 on March 21, 2006, 09:13:28 AM
now the one problem i did have with it was where it bolted into the manifold. since there were no gaskets or a very good bolt on seal or what not. it leaked exhaust like there was no tomorrow. so i just went up to autozone baught some muffler repair cement, and some gasket material. slapped those on and now it works and sounds beautifully. i
No exhaust header gaskets?? :o :o :o :o My '02 sure has them...
Just checked the '04 exploded diagram on Ron Ayers, it still shows the gaskets...
Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 21, 2006, 02:38:05 PM
No exhaust header gaskets?? :o :o :o :o My '02 sure has them...
Just checked the '04 exploded diagram on Ron Ayers, it still shows the gaskets...
When I took the exhaust off my '04 for the first time I didn't find any gaskets. No leaks or anything, but weird nonetheless.
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on March 21, 2006, 02:57:38 PM
Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 21, 2006, 02:38:05 PM
No exhaust header gaskets?? :o :o :o :o My '02 sure has them...
Just checked the '04 exploded diagram on Ron Ayers, it still shows the gaskets...
When I took the exhaust off my '04 for the first time I didn't find any gaskets. No leaks or anything, but weird nonetheless.
Sure they weren't just stuck in the exhaust ports? Can't imagine how it would NOT leak without something, especially given the extreme temperature range it has to seal over...
Quote from: Wrecent_Wryder on March 21, 2006, 03:28:59 PM
Sure they weren't just stuck in the exhaust ports? Can't imagine how it would NOT leak without something, especially given the extreme temperature range it has to seal over...
Maybe... I dunno. They could have been there. I might have missed them. Oh well.
Are most exhaust pipes the same size? I have no problem welding to fit a new can but I wasn't sure what I needed to order. I like the Scorpion Flame Titanium slip on but which one is the right size? Also what do I need to keep in mind as far as back pressure? I plan on using a K&N and having a shop rejet my bike. Do I need a shop to rejet or can I do that? Should it be done with a dyno or something?
Quote from: stefman722 on March 18, 2006, 03:32:28 PM
Hey guys,
Just do what i did, buy an exhaust for a yamaha yzf600r from 99-02. It will fit it just fine.
(http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/5488/exhaust0017ns3hx.jpg)
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1197/exhaust0059eg0tj.jpg)
Stefan.
So order the v&h slipon for 99-02 yzf600r right? What is the description?
i have 2006 gs500f and i just put the vance and hines exhaust on my bike,it took about 40 minutes and it fit fine with no modifications i only had to take the right side of the faring off and then had metric cycles custom jet my carbs with k/n filter the guy said i didnt need to waste money on a jet kit,he custom jetted them and they are dead on with smooth power at all speeds :thumb:
hears that pic of the v&h on my bike..... bs huh well i hate to say it fits :bs: :flipoff: :flipoff:
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8308/img09374ao.th.jpg) (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img09374ao.jpg)
Quote from: jason1080 on April 06, 2006, 08:41:07 PM
hears that pic of the v&h on my bike..... bs huh well i hate to say it fits :bs: :flipoff: :flipoff:
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8308/img09374ao.th.jpg) (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img09374ao.jpg)
How bout some pics of how you got the headers to fit under/around the bolts on the underside?
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLast on April 06, 2006, 09:36:28 PM
Quote from: jason1080 on April 06, 2006, 08:41:07 PM
hears that pic of the v&h on my bike..... bs huh well i hate to say it fits :bs: :flipoff: :flipoff:
(http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/8308/img09374ao.th.jpg) (http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img09374ao.jpg)
How bout some pics of how you got the headers to fit under/around the bolts on the underside?
Bingo. I want to see how the headers mate up flush with the engine, as well as their bend towards the midpipe. I'd also like to see the clearance with the oil pan bolts, etc...
ahh sux to be wrong huh the exhaust bolted up fine no modifacations at all . the only pain in the ass about that exhaust is that you have to drop your headers everytime you change your oil becuse its v shaped and not H shaped
Quote from: jason1080 on April 07, 2006, 03:07:43 AM
ahh sux to be wrong huh the exhaust bolted up fine no modifacations at all . the only pain in the ass about that exhaust is that you have to drop your headers everytime you change your oil becuse its v shaped and not H shaped
Uhh.. actually, I think we'd both be happy to be proven wrong. So how bout those pics, so we can see how it fits around the oil pan bolts (that's the biggest issue).. Hell, if you figured out a way to make em fit, that'd be a good thing. Not that it matters much to me, as the bike I'm looking at has a Cobra slip on already. :icon_mrgreen:
Quote from: jason1080 on April 07, 2006, 03:07:43 AM
ahh sux to be wrong huh the exhaust bolted up fine no modifacations at all . the only pain in the ass about that exhaust is that you have to drop your headers everytime you change your oil becuse its v shaped and not H shaped
Exactly. That V shape points it directly at the oil cooler's bolts in the oil pan. It significantly reduces the clearing between the header pipes and the oil pan. Let's see some pictures. I'd love to be proven wrong.
I have the VH exhaust on my 04 and it has issues. It is too close to the oil cooler bolts and the clearance under the oilpan can only be measured in mm's. It rubs against the centerstand swingarm bolt, too. Also, the flange fit of the header is not flush.
With that said, I think with some slight mods I can make it work. It sounds awesome and acceleration is better.
What I would like to do is use the stock header and cut off the stock single pipe and try to fit the second VH piece over the stock pipe. Has anyone tried this? I think I can do it without welding. Any help on this?
And yes, I'm new on this site!
im taken the pictures tomorrw of my o6 with the vance and hines ,the guy with the clearence issue must have install it wrong because you install it first with the bolts loose then when you have it fitted properly then tighten everything up,why would i fib about this i have no reason.
Can't wait for the pics :)
Quote from: galahs on April 09, 2006, 07:13:20 AM
Can't wait for the pics :)
YES!!! DETAILED PICS!!!
The two RED ROBOTS (APLHA & NICEGUYSFINISHLAST) are both very knowledgable, and they called BS based on past experiences AND past threads. Trust me when I say this...
They (and everyone on this board) are happy to be proven wrong about the V&H system bolting directly with NO MODIFICATIONS. I have an '04f, and I'd be thrilled to find a system that bolts on.
I'm thinking that the V&H system you purchased was a new model for models '04 through '06 (these have the additional oil cooler, therefore this was the original obstacle). What model did you purchase? Any item numbers? Where did you purchase?
Quote from: fordtech on April 08, 2006, 08:32:51 PM
im taken the pictures tomorrw of my o6 with the vance and hines ,the guy with the clearence issue must have install it wrong because you install it first with the bolts loose then when you have it fitted properly then tighten everything up,why would i fib about this i have no reason.
Umm, I did NOT install it wrong. Trying to get the headers to mount up flush with the engine wasn't PHSYICALLY possible because of the clearance issues I described earlier. I'd like to see it because that would open up new options for a bunch of people on here... just like I said...
Quote from: AlphaFire X5 on April 07, 2006, 10:17:17 AM
I'd love to be proven wrong.
and ---
Quote from: annguyen1981 on April 09, 2006, 07:26:40 AM
I'm thinking that the V&H system you purchased was a new model for models '04 through '06 (these have the additional oil cooler, therefore this was the original obstacle). What model did you purchase? Any item numbers? Where did you purchase?
I've never seen one for an '04+ on any site ever. I have heard from other people on the board that it took some modification to get the V&H exhaust to fit onto the '04s.
Quote from: fordtech on April 08, 2006, 08:32:51 PM
im taken the pictures tomorrw of my o6 with the vance and hines ,the guy with the clearence issue must have install it wrong because you install it first with the bolts loose then when you have it fitted properly then tighten everything up,why would i fib about this i have no reason.
I think this was directed at me, not you, AlphaFire. And I think I installed mine correctly, too.
As for the flange: It is not physically possible to have it mount flush on the engine. HOWEVER, mine is doing just fine with the bolts exposed...no leaking, yet. The flange simply hangs about 1.5" out from the engine. One spacer per bolt b/w the engine and the flange would be perfect. I maintain that the stock headers are a better fit and a combo of the V&H pipe and stock headers would be best.
With that said, I would recommend the V&H for the '04 (given the price of alternatives), but only if you own a dremel (or similar metal trimmer), as I had to shave a bit of the centerstand + bolts. I just installed a jet kit today and it rocks mated with the V&H. I don't regret either purchase!
yo so we never got those pics?
Well, today I married the stock headers to the V&H pipe. :kiss3:
The V&H headers were too close for my comfort and they did not allow for an easy oil change. I made the switch after nearly 500 miles with the full V&H system (plus dynojet kit). I used the stock large pipe as a flange (mig welded) over the stock small pipe.
Here is the V&H header:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/2e362e87.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/71c93fd9.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/db468b34.jpg)
Here is the stock header...ahh, room to breathe and change oil!
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/2cae3ddb.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/66454c6b.jpg)
Finally, the stock header mated with the V&H pipe:
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/30630353.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g285/pbcronin/9b04cb59.jpg)
would you like to sell the vance and hines header pipe
Very nicely done. Is there much difference in sound between the two installs?
Quote from: fordtech on April 28, 2006, 09:28:48 PM
would you like to sell the vance and hines header pipe
Already snatched!
Quote from: lumpoffire on April 28, 2006, 10:50:19 PM
Very nicely done. Is there much difference in sound between the two installs?
Thanks. There is no sound or performance difference that I can tell between the two headers. :cheers:
-Patrick