i still need to take the msf, but for now i've just gone and done the on motorcycle exam to get my endorsement.
thank you small easy to handle gs.
i got a perfect score.
the examiner looked semi surprised and very pleased.
i grinned all the way home.
I've taken both the State of Ohio and MSF riding exams, and the state exam is ten times easier than the MSF. I can't believe how simple it is to get a motorcycle endorsement here.
I took the MSF with only four hours of previous riding experience on my then recently purchased GS. I did real well on the practice runs, but messed up the emergency stopping portion when I took the actual test. I failed the course. :(
I practiced at the nearby industrial park for a couple of weeks and then took the State of Ohio exam. I asked the guy there what the minimum stopping distance was for the same test. He told me I just had to stop the bike. Wow. So the State doesn't care if you stop in the middle of an intersection, as long as you stop the bike! :)
Needless to say, I passed the test without any trouble this time (and I did very good on the stopping this time!) It was a breeze compared to the MSF test. I kind of felt guilty, it was so easy.
Someday when I have time I'd like to take the MSF course again and pass it.
Good Job! 8)
how long have you been riding before you took the test?
I'm taking the test next week. What do I need to know, do you have any good tips or ideas for practicing for the test. :dunno:
BTW I live in Washington
ThanX in advance
First things first..
Congrats bro, and welcome to the brotherhood of legal riders.. :cheers:
To give away my age, I never had to take a motorcycle test.. Whan I started, your drivers license entitled you to drive a bike too.. You just went down to the tag office and told them you were buying a motorcycle and paid your $7 for a duplicate license and they took your picture and that was that..
Little brother. 13 years younger then I am, had to take both a written and a riding test.. :nana:
Here in Arkansas the test is so elementary, I had a friend just last month go down and take the motorcycle test and got a perfect score.. Hes 19 and has never driven a car or even sat on a motorcycle.. :?
Congrats again man!
QuoteBluebellylint
how long have you been riding before you took the test?
almost a year :oops: my temps would have expired next month.
QuoteI'm taking the test next week. What do I need to know, do you have any good tips or ideas for practicing for the test.
BTW I live in Washington
ThanX in advance
i'm not sure if washington is different, but tomorrow i'm going to the bmv to take pics of the "course" so i can draw arrows on it and instructions. i'll post them here this weekend.
as for practice, a week or two ago i just went to a local empty parking lot and practiced smooth low speed riding, with an emphasis on sharp turns.
QuoteI practiced at the nearby industrial park for a couple of weeks and then took the State of Ohio exam. I asked the guy there what the minimum stopping distance was for the same test. He told me I just had to stop the bike. Wow. So the State doesn't care if you stop in the middle of an intersection, as long as you stop the bike!
my examiner wrote on my score sheet that the max stop distance was 16 feet :dunno: i dunno what it really is?
QuoteHere in Arkansas the test is so elementary, I had a friend just last month go down and take the motorcycle test and got a perfect score.. Hes 19 and has never driven a car or even sat on a motorcycle..
wow! either he is reasonably lucky / good or your test is alot easier.
i'll get those pics up, newark has a very new and nice exam area.
in my hometown (mount vernon) the test area is really rough pavement, lots of small gravel from crumbling blacktop, and it is on a slope.
thank you all for the props, i feel guilty just taking the easy route, but i'm short on time at the moment (moving this weekend) and i needed to get it done. the M looks nice on my license.
(http://www.personal.kent.edu/~lhelzer/matt/BMVSCORE.JPG)
So its a golf score?
exactly like golf.
i forgot to mention to bring a caddy, and your 4 iron.
jk.
a bike and helmet will do (i also brought jacket and gloves, and pants, socks, shoes, wallet, glasses, watch, motorcycle keys, underwear, cellphone)
at any rate, the lower the number on the score sheet the better.
Quote from: Bluebellylint\I'm taking the test next week. What do I need to know, do you have any good tips or ideas for practicing for the test. :dunno:
BTW I live in Washington
Are you taking it at the North Seattle DMV? I dunno about the other places, but there, the course is painted out on the ground. Go there when the office is closed. With your back to the DMV, make the sharp left-hander without touching the lines. Then make another left and stop with your front wheel in the box facing the DMV. Then pull a U-y and do the cone weave - the squares on the ground is where the cones will be. Then make a right turn at the sharp left from before, and pull a U-y at the other end without touching the lines (three-sided box at the side where you started it all). Then go to the other side, and facing the DMV, get it up to 15mph and hit the brakes as soon as you get to the thick line (the thin lines are what they measure for stopping distance). Then go back and do the same thing, except swerve in between the red lines instead of stopping.
Drop the bike, you fail, so go over a line if you have to to avoid dropping the bike.
But IMO, take the Seattle motorcycle safety course (it's not MSF in WA). The one at Gray's Harbor is less crowded, but don't make my mistake - the guy's a duck, which is probably why it's not so crowded. A good learning experience, and you get an insurance break.
sounds like the same test we have here. i'll take pics from a nearby hill tomorrow and draw on the arrows for each exercise.
msf or similar would be better. this wasn't real hard, i was worried cause i get nervious during driving tests, something about the Ohio state highway patrol officers.
Im sorry but those are the sloppiest/ugliest lookin zeros I have ever had the privilage to look at. Was he writing with his feet?
Oh yea congrats on the passing score!
For the layout of the Ohio Skills Test see my post in this topic (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18266)
:cheers:
The "Alternate MOST" test which fits the score sheet above is located http://clevelandrides.com/On-Cycle%20Test.htm
This post came at a good time....I was not sure if Ohio used this test or not...hopefully I can get in to take my test next week. My MSF class is in August....fills up quick around here. i know I could wait and get the test waived by the Flying Tire Salesman but I like to ride to work and I work 2nd shift (no night riding or interstate on temps which I find flawed but that is a whole different topic.)
Edit: Fixed link
Quote from: cobalt135The "Alternate MOST" test which fits the score sheet above is located http://clevelandrides.com/On-Cycle%20Test.htm.
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The link doesn't work because of the period a the end.
See my previous post for more details on the test.
:cheers:
excelent diagrams in that other thread john. much better then me taking a pic and using microsoft paint to try to draw the paths in.
interesting thing, i called the bmv today to schedule, but their phone was busy, it wasn't far from my home, so i rode down there. when i asked the lady at the desk she said "well, tomorrow would work....hmmm... actually are you ready to take it today?"
i said "i'm as ready as i'll ever be" five min later i was lined up at the first T.
it was crazy. i had no idea i was going to get it today.
Quote from: Church6360...................... i had no idea i was going to get it today.
Waytogo! :cheers:
oklahoma was easy...
ride around the block with a cop behind you using his signals to tell you where to turn...
pull into the dmv parking lot... park the bike... and you are done.... :)
Quote from: 84TAVeRToklahoma was easy...
ride around the block with a cop behind you using his signals to tell you where to turn...
pull into the dmv parking lot... park the bike... and you are done.... :)
wow...that's just too easy. does he at least turn on the siren just to rattle you a bit? :mrgreen:
Quote from: 84TAVeRToklahoma was easy...
ride around the block with a cop behind you using his signals to tell you where to turn...
pull into the dmv parking lot... park the bike... and you are done.... :)
Jenks?
I cheated a little on the Ohio test.... I went to the BMV on Alumn Creek Dr. after they closed and practiced....
Aced it the next day...
Church6360 - So they do have a max. stopping distance. Hmmm, maybe the guy I had was just lazy. It was early on a Saturday morning. We were told to meet at a church parking lot. This guy pulled up in a retired police cruiser, stood in front of it, and just barked orders from there the whole time. I only saw one guy fail, but that's because he couldn't ride in a straight line!
Quote from: fettcolsI cheated a little on the Ohio test.... I went to the BMV on Alumn Creek Dr. after they closed and practiced....
Aced it the next day...
That's not cheating... It's studying!
Quote from: Roadstergal
Are you taking it at the North Seattle DMV? I dunno about the other places, but there, the course is painted out on the ground. Go there when the office is closed. With your back to the DMV, make the sharp left-hander without touching the lines. Then make another left and stop with your front wheel in the box facing the DMV. Then pull a U-y and do the cone weave - the squares on the ground is where the cones will be. Then make a right turn at the sharp left from before, and pull a U-y at the other end without touching the lines (three-sided box at the side where you started it all). Then go to the other side, and facing the DMV, get it up to 15mph and hit the brakes as soon as you get to the thick line (the thin lines are what they measure for stopping distance). Then go back and do the same thing, except swerve in between the red lines instead of stopping.
Drop the bike, you fail, so go over a line if you have to to avoid dropping the bike.
Yes I am taking it at the North Seattle DMV. Thanks for all the advise I will go there next week and practice before the test.
ThanX
:thumb:
here is just a repost of the diagrams that John put in the other thread
(http://www.personal.kent.edu/~lhelzer/matt/MOSTLAYOUT.JPG)
(http://www.personal.kent.edu/~lhelzer/matt/MOST.JPG)
and for scottWV. i think the stopping distance is determined by your speed that you decide to maintain between the two lines in run 3. the guy that examined me used a stopwatch for a few parts, by timing me at a constant speed through two marks a known distance appart he could calculate the "appropriate" stopping distance. just my guess.
Just for the heck of it, I looked in my "Motorcycle related' folder in my files, and found my test sheet. It says I stopped in 10 feet, and 10 feet were allowed. Hmmm. Personally, I still think the guy really was just too lazy to care. I did get points for hitting a cone. :oops:
thanks to the advice and a little practice on the course I scored 100% on my skills test. :thumb:
ThanX