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Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: Slavik on June 12, 2005, 02:02:34 PM
I overtightened the oil filter cover nut, and the stud broke.. :( ....What do I do now?  Did I really screwed the bike up?  for the next time, is there a torque spec that I needed to follow?  

Here is what happened, I got the nuts pretty tight, but there were a couple of drops of oil on the floor after an hours of standing, I tried to tightened the three bots, the bottom one snaped....what is the right way of tightening the oil filter cover?

Please help, I am worried sick :o
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: Roadstergal on June 12, 2005, 03:42:02 PM
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18107
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: Slavik on June 12, 2005, 03:53:42 PM
Thanks, it seemed to work out.....I did find the same topic by searching, I was just to freeked out to search right away :) ..I feel much better now  :lol:

This time around I just did 1/2 turn past hand tight....it's not leaking so far

just an oil change, but so much trouble :), hopefully it will get easier as I go along
Time for a ide and a little  :cheers:
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: pantablo on June 12, 2005, 05:06:50 PM
Fix a broken oil filter cap bolt (http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id10.html)

link on my site...
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: Slavik on June 12, 2005, 07:19:55 PM
Thanks.....I just replaced with a screw, seemed to work...we'll see
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: werase643 on June 12, 2005, 08:07:33 PM
replace it with a stud in the near future
the reason for studs....
oil cover comes off often....every 3000 miles

if it was a bolt and you monkey fisted it.... you would mess up the threads in the case.
if you monkey fist a nut/stud....you break a $2 stud and you can reuse the nut after you get a new stud

bolt will work but you will have a bad day when the threads pull out of the case
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RVertigo on June 13, 2005, 11:20:50 AM
What werase643 said!

If you put the bike on the center-stand and weight it down so it sits on the back tire, when you pull the oil-filter cover off you will hardly loose any oil...

So...  Order or pick up the stud and get the right part in there.   :thumb:

They really should have the torque specs in the manual...  Well, I didn't see them anyway.  Mine just said, "Tighten securely" whatever that means...  :dunno:
Title: Been there before...
Post by: half liter on June 13, 2005, 12:58:47 PM
Bikebandit Oil Filter Schematic (http://houseofmotorcycles.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/oem_schematic_view~mp_id~~mscssid~PQGJBD5AH8AV9NPVR14JVFNXK76J8NPF~schem_dept_id~705465~section_dept_id~1~section_dept_name~OEM+%28Stock%29+Parts~dept_type_id~2~model_dept_year~2001~model_dept_mfr~Suzuki~model_dept_id~703275~model_dept_name~GS500K1.asp)

This is the schematic for the oil filter area. If you want the exact stud, this is a cheap way to get it. Considering the amount of times you'll use it, I wouldn't reccomend using a bolt. I did the same thing the first time i tried to change the oil.

PS (The stud is # 11 in the diagram.)
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: werase643 on June 13, 2005, 01:49:27 PM
use a 1/4" ratchet...and you probably won't over tighten it.
Title: Re: Been there before...
Post by: RVertigo on June 13, 2005, 02:51:18 PM
Quote from: half literBikebandit Oil Filter Schematic

PS (The stud is # 11 in the diagram.)
Might as well pick up a few...  I mean...  What's a couple extra bucks vs. needing to order one and WAIT.

I picked up two...  Just in case I ate too much spinach before I put the new one in.
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RedShift on June 13, 2005, 04:43:21 PM
Fascinating topic.  Thanks to all who contributed.

I didn't see it mentioned and wanted to add to this thread that you will help seal the oil filter cover and help keep that O-ring in the grove by packing that grove with grease -- lithium soap-base is preferred.

Although I have yet to break a bolt (knock on wood), I have struggled with oil leaks that in turn, had me reef on those little cap nuts.  Ever since I followed my Clymer bible (see page 68 item "f" ISBN: 0-89287-833-9), I've stopped fearing and now enjoy tightening these little babies.
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RVertigo on June 13, 2005, 04:55:07 PM
They have a torque rating?  Maybe I just missed it... Mine said, "Tighten Securely" and left it at that.
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: werase643 on June 13, 2005, 04:57:25 PM
i safety wire the nuts on...and they don't fall off.... :cheers:
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RVertigo on June 13, 2005, 04:59:07 PM
Well, I changed my oil about a week ago and have no leaks (yet)...  But, I check every night...  I guess I'm a little paranoid about my shoddy work.   :oops:
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RedShift on June 13, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
Quote from: RVertigoThey have a torque rating?  Maybe I just missed it... Mine said, "Tighten Securely" and left it at that.
Yea. I can't find any specific torgue spec either.  Believe Securely is a 1/4 turn past Snug.    ;)
Title: PLEASE HELP; oil filter cover stud is broken
Post by: RVertigo on June 13, 2005, 05:51:07 PM
So...  Not two full rotations.   :lol: