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Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 12:46:39 PM
Hey, I just got my fathers hand me down 1990 GS500E last week.   What a great ride!  
Anyway I started having an issue two days ago with the bike dying when I put it in gear.    

Details,  bike is warmed up ,  started in neutral, pull in clutch, put into first gear ..... dies.    Seems like this is NOT a clutch problem since it works fine when it is cold.   I can even make it die without putting it all the way in gear.  As soon as the neutral light goes off the bike dies like I hit the kill switch.     I have ordered a manual today to trace out the wiring but I would appreciate any thoughts.


Collins.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: davipu on June 16, 2005, 12:50:38 PM
kick stand switch.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 12:53:13 PM
I would think that would cause it to die when I put the stand up.  Right now it only dies when I try and put it in first or second.   I will check it out anyway.... hold on a couple of minutes.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2005, 12:55:52 PM
Totally sounds like the side-stand switch...
Title: Stupid mistake.
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 12:55:57 PM
AUURGGG,  What an idiot I am.   Thanks a lot
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: davipu on June 16, 2005, 01:01:16 PM
just admit it to yourself that your a noob, and theings will be better.  then go hug your bike.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: JetSwing on June 16, 2005, 01:09:42 PM
great noob question...i've done it once or twice once a upon a time  :oops:
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: themaffeo on June 16, 2005, 01:14:07 PM
Quote from: JetSwinggreat noob question...i've done it once or twice once a upon a time  :oops:

I did it in front of other people.

At a bike parts shop.

Now that was embarrasing.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2005, 01:33:49 PM
I've done it too...  :oops:
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 01:36:35 PM
That is the sad thing.  I have been riding dirt bikes for 20 years .
Title: Re: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Kerry on June 16, 2005, 01:42:00 PM
Quote from: Chris.t.CollinsI have ordered a manual today to trace out the wiring
In case you need to do any other tracing before the manual arrives, here is a color wiring diagram from the Haynes manual.

(You bought a Clymer, right?  :roll: )
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: raylarrabee on June 16, 2005, 01:51:07 PM
Kerry, I'm citing you for excessive helpfulness.  You and your scanner get 2 minutes in the penalty box.

That said, that is a GREAT diagram.  The b/w one in the Clymer is much harder to make sense of.

now go to the box!
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: JetSwing on June 16, 2005, 01:58:31 PM
Quote from: raylarrabeeKerry, I'm citing you for excessive helpfulness.  You and your scanner get 2 minutes in the penalty box.

That said, that is a GREAT diagram.  The b/w one in the Clymer is much harder to make sense of.

now go to the box!
overruled!  :lol:
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 02:14:10 PM
Incredible diagram!    Thanks a lot.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: stefman722 on June 16, 2005, 03:02:21 PM
You know, this will the my 2nd summer with the gsf and i still do it all the time. I never remember. I do it at times with ppl around, but i really dont care, i am too used to it now. Good thing that switch is there, because i would always drive away with it down  :oops:
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: RVertigo on June 16, 2005, 03:28:50 PM
Yeah... No kidding.  I think half of us would have wrecked at least once for that reason.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: JetSwing on June 16, 2005, 04:07:42 PM
i think if the speedometer hits 1mph, it should automatically retract...! :roll:
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: pnaberhaus on June 16, 2005, 04:48:15 PM
I avoid that potentially embarassing scenario by NEVER using the sidestand! Back in the '60s  when I started riding (1st bike was the ubiquitous Honda 305 scrambler), I scared myself silly several times by being so-o-o cool as to smoothly pull away from a curb, only to hear an unsettling  :o  scraping sound, sometimes accompanied by a slight leveraging upward  :o  :o  of the rear wheel if that first left hander was taken too "hot". Whew! Have THAT happen a couple times and you learn real fast to check things before you motor off. Glad your "fix" was so easy, may they all be so in the future!
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: drvmystck on June 16, 2005, 07:10:08 PM
Free newb lesson #2 of the day:

That ignition past 'lock' that says 'P'? Don't leave your bike in that position and work for 11 hours. Bikey no startey. Stupid parking lights.

Ok, I feel better now. Had to get that embarrassment off my chest. Long day.
Title: Re: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Jazzzzz on June 16, 2005, 07:21:11 PM
Quote from: Kerry
Quote from: Chris.t.CollinsI have ordered a manual today to trace out the wiring
In case you need to do any other tracing before the manual arrives, here is a color wiring diagram from the Haynes manual.

(You bought a Clymer, right?  :roll: )

If you don't endorse the Clymer, why is it the one linked at Amazone under through the "Buy a Repair Manual" link at the top of the forums? :P
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Chris.t.Collins on June 16, 2005, 07:59:45 PM
What is wrong with Clymer?
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: Kerry on June 17, 2005, 01:00:35 AM
Quote from: JazzzzzIf you don't endorse the Clymer, why is it the one linked at Amazone under through the "Buy a Repair Manual" link at the top of the forums?
Not my fault!  I just work here.  :roll:

Seriously ... I can't remember john ever commenting on the Haynes manual.  Perhaps he never owned one for the GS.  :dunno:

As I understand it, john has somehow worked out a cool arrangement with Amazon.  If you follow the link provided, and end up buying a book, Amazon can tell that you were referred from this website and will kick back a small percentage of the purchase price to the GStwin coffers.  I think that this applies no matter what you buy from Amazon, as long as you initially get there by following the link above.  But I haven't been able to confirm that.  (john?)

If that is true, then you can also support the site by buying a (hardback!) Haynes manual if you:Amazon.com search for 1859609856 (the book's ISBN number), and
* Buy the book![/list:u]Maybe we can convince john to provide 2 links - "Buy a Clymer Manual" and "Buy a Haynes Manual"?   :thumb:  I'm sure he would go for it if we all promised to buy our next vacuum cleaner or digital camcorder by following the Haynes link....  :lol:


Quote from: Chris.t.CollinsWhat is wrong with Clymer?
There are a lot of things RIGHT with the Clymer manual, including more in-depth info when it comes to tearing the whole bike apart.  But for the average owner, I think the Haynes manual is much more accessible.  (I own both.)  For a couple of my previously-posted comparative observations, see this thread ... and especially this one.
Title: GS500 Dies when put into gear
Post by: pdg108 on June 17, 2005, 07:55:49 AM
Quote from: drvmystckFree newb lesson #2 of the day:

That ignition past 'lock' that says 'P'? Don't leave your bike in that position and work for 11 hours. Bikey no startey. Stupid parking lights.

Ok, I feel better now. Had to get that embarrassment off my chest. Long day.

Wow, you mean there used to be printing on the ignition? :P  Try it when your bikes has been worn off before you bought it.   :roll:  A little P might have saved me a bump start or two....  :mrgreen: