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Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: pprider on July 02, 2005, 12:15:55 PM
So the battery was bought less then a month ago, but about a week ago i went to start my girl up and it acted as if the battery was almost dead. I have a charger so i hooked it up and charged it till she was full. Upon finishing this charge i went to start her and the same thing happens i might get one good crank if that and then it dies and wont barely crank.

does my bike have an alternator?  :x
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: Faxxxy on July 02, 2005, 12:21:42 PM
I would start by taking the battery connections apart and scrubbing them with a wire brush..
Title: Re: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: John Bates on July 02, 2005, 12:51:20 PM
Quote from: pprider..................
does my bike have an alternator?  :x

It has the equivalent of an alternator.  

An AC generator located under the left engine case cover feeds power to the rectifier/regulator located under the left plastic cover.

:cheers:
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: pprider on July 02, 2005, 02:32:35 PM
battery load tested... result = dead GRRRRR :x
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: Faxxxy on July 02, 2005, 03:01:11 PM
Quote from: ppriderbattery load tested... result = dead GRRRRR :x

Bad battery from the git-go...
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: RedShift on July 02, 2005, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: ppriderbattery load tested... result = dead GRRRRR :x
= Need to buy new one.   :(   Was it under warranty?

After you get a new battery, check that you're not overcharging.  It may be that your rectifier circuit is the cause.  A brand new battery should not go bad that quickly.

Roy...
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: pprider on July 03, 2005, 05:33:40 PM
well it was a bit shady from the get-go. i bought it in a little dealership out in maryland in the boonies where i go to school (45 mins from Frostburg Md.) guy brings battery out, looks like an old box... i go out put it in and no go, i mean NOTHING. take it right back in as im in the parking lot and he goes oh the new guy brought it out it needs to be filled with acid and needs charged ill brb. comes back 30 mins later hands me it and it fires right up.

1 month later battery = no start  :x

so im off to buy a new one tuesday.. advanced auto doesnt carry the battery neither does auto zone... so the stealership that does isnt open till tuesday :dunno:
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: RedShift on July 03, 2005, 07:57:38 PM
Since you're stuck 'til Tuesday anyway, any chance you can give that battery a good charge yourself?  

Maybe they just gave it a 6 amp push charge and it wasn't enough chemical change to get you anything more than an immediate start.

If you can get the use of a 2 amp Auto battery charger, I'd suggest you put the battery on it for a good 4-6 hour charge.  If the charger has an amp meter, go until there's little to no more amp load.  If the amp meter goes to full charge (no amp reading) in less than 10 minutes starting from a point it won't turn over your motor, then your battery is crap and you'll know for sure.
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: pprider on July 03, 2005, 09:59:14 PM
sadly i only have a trickle charger that auto shuts off when the battery is "Charged" which it said it was after about 3-4 hours... at least i think it auto shuts off

my battery tender looks just like the one in the picture in the following link, not sure if its this exact one though, but sure looks like it.

http://www.motorcyclebatteriesusa.com/battery-chargers-details.asp?battery=95

so in summary i already charged it to "full" according to my charger
Title: Battery advice
Post by: marc on July 04, 2005, 12:56:35 AM
Just stay away from "white-box-brand" batteries and old batteries.

Some batteries are not intended to be used in cars o motorcycles,
they are not designed to give the needed discharge to move a
starter motor (over 300A in a car, over 80A in a bike). They are
used (for example) in Uninterruptible Power Supplies (UPS)
ant other applications.

Battery age is important too:

Batteries used to have a sticker where you mark the date you
installed it in the car or bike, but it is used to to know how old
is the battery, that is, how long has it been sitting at the dealer shelves.
A old battery will be more likely to fail than a newer one.

For example: A battery manufactured Jul.2005, will have a sticker
with the months (Jan, Feb, Mar...Dec), and the stickers 05, 06, 07.
A battery manufactured in Feb 2002 will have a sticker with the months
and the numbers 02, 03 and 04. The years 02, 03 and 04 stand for
"intended to be installed within 2 years".

This is specially important in gel/sealed batteries, where acid is dropped
inside the battery at manufacture time, and are ready to use right out
of the box. Batteries that are sold completely dry, with a separate
acid bottle (this is illegal in come countries) will have a longer
storage time.

BTW: A dry battery is ready to use (no charge needed) when acid
is dropped inside it. The reason is as simple as the chemistry that
they use to work: When charged, you have lead plates and H2SO4
acid. When discharged, you have PbSO4 on the plates and H2O liquid.
Discard any dry battery that's not able to start an engine just after
dropping the acid into it.
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: 97gs500e on July 04, 2005, 01:00:37 AM
Can't go wrong with a new Yuasa, and if your bike still doesn't start after that, check the main fuse, and do the spark test..
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: pprider on July 04, 2005, 06:15:47 AM
yup thats what im getting i think on tuesday from a stealership near by, they sell Yuasa's :cheers:
Title: Battery is fully charged...bike barely starts?
Post by: Faxxxy on July 04, 2005, 06:31:13 AM
if you can handle a weeks wait, you can usually cut the dealers price by 2/3 by ordering one off the internet..

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=motorcycle+batteries