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Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: CanadianGS on July 12, 2005, 07:04:25 AM
Hi everyone!  I have not been on this site for a while, but it is good to be back. :thumb:   I just thought I would let everyone know about my new personal speed record.  I have heard that the GS has got to about 185km/h for a top speed, but my 05 just got to 199km/h yesturday.  I have only been rider for about 3 months so I'm glad i got the GS first cuz I would probably go even faster if I could.  Next year I plan to get a bigger bike, and then the real speed will come! :mrgreen:   Also the fuel was only regular, I don't know if that makes much of a difference, but we'll see.  Ne way, its nice to be back! :cheers:
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: vfrocket on July 12, 2005, 07:17:59 AM
was that indicated speed on the speedo, if so I dont mean to be mean, but you were not going as fast as the speedo indicated. I have used my GPS to calibrate my speedo, and I can tell you for a fact that indicated 100mph is really only about 91mph.

The speedo seems to be dead on until about 50mph, after that its error raises exponentially from there, i.e. indicated 80mph is actually 74mph, and so on.....
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: raylarrabee on July 12, 2005, 07:20:55 AM
Can I have your front fender after you wreck your bike?
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: Phaedrus on July 12, 2005, 07:38:17 AM
Quote from: vfrocketwas that indicated speed on the speedo, if so I dont mean to be mean, but you were not going as fast as the speedo indicated. I have used my GPS to calibrate my speedo, and I can tell you for a fact that indicated 100mph is really only about 91mph.

The speedo seems to be dead on until about 50mph, after that its error raises exponentially from there, i.e. indicated 80mph is actually 74mph, and so on.....

That makes sense. Sometimes I'll be on the highway doing 80mph indicated and I'll be getting passed like I am sitting still. I am like WTF? Now I have a better understanding.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: CanadianGS on July 12, 2005, 07:38:57 AM
1st, After I wreck the bike, why would u want the front fender? It'll be wrecked too! lol.  As far as the speedo goes, I've never heard of that.  I can't see an 05 having that kind of a glitch.  I could be wrong, but when it is made, it has to give accurate speed rates?  Does it not. Other wise it would be classed as unsafe.  Either way it was fast and and fun, but kinda scary, cuz it was like 33 degrees celcius, and I don't wear a jacket over 30.  All I had was my helmet! :o I know stupid, but I do a lot of dumb things!
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: chbix on July 12, 2005, 08:23:27 AM
i have to say that this post smells of disaster in the making.  lets analyze the situation, new rider on for 3 months, maxing out speed at 199 km/hr, no jacket, and relatively no grasp of stupidity.  And wants a bigger bike in a year.

Oh to be young and invincible again.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: CanadianGS on July 12, 2005, 08:33:46 AM
I understand that all of you think I am stupid, but I live life the way I like to, with excitement. If I die tomorrow, at least I had fun today.  To make a point also, I got perfect on the riding test at the course.  I know that is not an excuse to ride fast and dangerously, but also I was on an empty Highway, (401).  But I still do understand the risks.  Everytime u throw ur leg over the seat, ur taking a risk.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: vfrocket on July 12, 2005, 08:35:48 AM
Quote1st, After I wreck the bike, why would u want the front fender? It'll be wrecked too! lol. As far as the speedo goes, I've never heard of that. I can't see an 05 having that kind of a glitch. I could be wrong, but when it is made, it has to give accurate speed rates? Does it not. Other wise it would be classed as unsafe.

No need to get upset...

Look, I am just telling you the truth, it is a well known fact that there is speedo error, even in cars.

My bike is a 2000, yours is a 2005, there really has been no major changes in this bike in thoes years with the exception of the fairings, and a mid jet in the carbs, and a few other cosmetic things.

The speedo being off does not make it unsafe. It will keep you under the speed limit, if you always ride with the indicated speed.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: tdan553527 on July 12, 2005, 08:41:42 AM
05, same speedo as the 04 and 02 and 01, all wrong the faster you go.
My 04 is the same way, fastest was 125Mph indicated, which would probably be about 105 to 110 true speed, which I believe that is what they say is the top speed.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: vfrocket on July 12, 2005, 08:44:34 AM
QuoteOn most modern motorcycles, with factory speedometer error being as high as 10%, even a modest sprocket gearing change can have the speedometer off by 15%.
http://www.speedohealer.com/eng/intro.htm

there are plenty of little "black" boxes on the market to correct errors. Not sure they will work on the GS though.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: groff22 on July 12, 2005, 08:55:06 AM
Quote from: Phaedrus
Quote from: vfrocketwas that indicated speed on the spedo, if so I dont mean to be mean, but you were not going as fast as the spedo indicated. I have used my GPS to calibrate my spedo, and I can tell you for a fact that indicated 100mph is really only about 91mph.

The speedo seems to be dead on until about 50mph, after that its error raises exponetially from there, I.e. indicated 80mph is actually 74mph, and so on.....

That makes sense. Sometimes I'll be on the highway doing 80mph indicated and I'll be getting passed like I am sitting still. I am like WTF? Now I have a better understanding.

Figured as much... I get blown by on the highway all the time going 10-20 over the speedlimit... It's like these are running from something -- maybe the sound of my lawnmower... erm GS500 ... Whenever it happens I wish I could pull out one of those old school police cruiser lights, stick it on the top of my head and pull these wankers over cop style...
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: My Name Is Dave on July 12, 2005, 08:58:50 AM
I don't think anyone who spells "fastest" that way should be allowed to operate ANY sort of vehicle  :nana:

Dave  :cheers:

[KJB: Oops!  I fixed the spelling before I got your post.  Sorry if I "obsoleted" it.]
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: CanadianGS on July 12, 2005, 08:59:24 AM
Well thanks for the tip on the speedo. I didn't realize that manufacturers would miss out on such a detail, but i guess they did.  I didn't mean to come off pissed in my last statement, so sorry if I affended u.  I just have a mind frame that everything should be made perfect, especially if I'm riding it! lol.  I guess the only way I will know is when I get pulled over! lol. :roll: Thanks again.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: My Name Is Dave on July 12, 2005, 09:01:45 AM
Oh, so does this mean that a cop can't ticket you for speeding if the use the "pace" method? Seems if speedos are off an unknown amount, they need to do more than just follow you and check their speedo in order to cite you.

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: CanadianGS on July 12, 2005, 09:02:23 AM
So I can't type, whatever!  Forgive me for my akward fingers, but I can still go fast, ride, and race ne thing with an engine!
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: vfrocket on July 12, 2005, 09:12:38 AM
QuoteOh, so does this mean that a cop can't ticket you for speeding if the use the "pace" method? Seems if speedos are off an unknown amount, they need to do more than just follow you and check their speedo in order to cite you.

Speedo's on police crusiers that use that method are calibrated on a regular schedule.

you speedo will normally indicate a faster speed than what you are traveling. So if you go the speed limit by following your speedometer in your car you actually are not speeding.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: Roadstergal on July 12, 2005, 09:29:02 AM
It's not legal for manufactuers to make speedos that read low, but it is legal - and common! - for them to make speedos that read high.  The justification is that if you muck with your tires, you won't end up with a speedo that reads low; I think they also just want to make their vehicles seem faster.  :p

IIRC, the allowable BMW car speedo error is 10% +/- 4mph, which is pretty dang high.  They have a TSB on that.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: JMyrick on July 12, 2005, 09:56:10 AM
<---- Uses GPS all the time on my GS f***  that speedo

Joe
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: Jazzzzz on July 12, 2005, 10:25:01 AM
1) Get a mesh or perforated leather jacket to wear in hot weather -- why wait until after you've enjoyed the fun of road rash?

2) The guy who won the "golden cone" at my MSF course for a perfect riding score promptly dropped his bike as he was leaving, trying to show off.  Your perfect score on the endorsement exam means you do pretty well driving under 45km/h in a parking lot, not that you're invincible.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: gs500fromnb on July 12, 2005, 01:08:58 PM
i've had my speedo radared many times.. its about 10% high.

100km/h = 89-90km/h, 160km/h = 146km/h, 200km/h = 180km/h.....

sucks but as soon as you get a different profile of tires, it can affect the speedometer, so I guess the companies want to avoid getting in trouble for reading low.
Title: Fastest Yet!
Post by: half liter on July 12, 2005, 03:04:14 PM
There was a good Cycle World article on this a couple of months ago. According to it, the speedometer error is mainly a liability issue, though most of the bikes were off by under 7%. Suzuki could certainly build a speedometer that wasn't off, but it's a much safer bet for them not to.

I like it though: When else can you cruise at "90" without constantly scanning for that Crown Vic on the shoulder? :thumb: