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Im thinking about purchasing a new bike.  Right now I pay $360 for my GSE a year.  I called up my Insurance Company and asked for a quote on a 2005 Suzuki GSXR-1000 and they said if i keep my GSE on the insurance plan (which i prob. will) they said my insurance will only go up $150 a year!  Idunno but that seems kind of low to me, shouldnt' it be more like $1400 a year or something?  I asked the guy to double check and he said he is positive.  By the way im 18 years old.

Anyhow I think i'm ready for a litre bike.  This past 5 months i put over 10k miles on my bike and went on three 800 mile trips to my mom's house in Delaware.  No accidents so far and when I first got my bike about 8 months ago i didn't know how to ride good.  I think i accomplished and learned a lot these past 8month.  I ride my bike everyday rain or shine to work and college.  So hopefully i can start riding a litre bike pretty soon!

if your goal is just to have a liter bike than your on it for the wrong reasons.   the rule of thumb with new bike purchases is never go more than double the HP of the previous one.    your looking at 180 hp  from 40.  you ever accidently blip the throttle going over a speed bump? do that with a ltr and it will plant you on your ass with the bike several hundred feet away.

COme on man im not scared of the front wheel coming up.  Ive dont hundreds of wheelies on the gs and no accidents so far.  The reason for the 1000 is that if i get a 600 gxsr i will out grow it, if i get the 750 i would want to trade itin for a 1000 later so why not the 1000.  After 2005 all bikes cant have modified mufflers or anything, a law is being past.  If you you purcahse a 2006 bike and alter the muffler or exhast system in any way you can get fined big time.  I dont need a lecture on how the bike will do wheelies in 1st or 2nd with a twitch of the throttle hand or how it can go 90mph in first gear.  The main reason for this post is for the insurance quote and how accurate it seems.  And who makes the HP rules anyway about not to double it on another bike.  If i get the 750 i dont want to go threw hassle of trading it in for a 1000 down the road.  I plan on keeping the 1000 for a very long time.

Quote from: Pinoy21337... when I first got my bike about 8 months ago i didn't know how to ride good.

Apparently you didn't and still don't know how to speak English "good"  :kiss:

D  :cheers:

I jumped up to a 600 relatively quickly. It was a bad move on my part, and I believe my inexperience was the ONLY factor in the wreck I had. I should have kept my GS, I firmly believe that. Just listen to a word of advice. IF YOU REALLY REALLY REALLY feel you are ready to move up, dear god dont go to a 1000....there have been so many returned to a local shop after literally 15 miles on the odo because the rider "wasnt scared about picking the wheel up". Have a frickin brain main...if you really want to get a 1k, hey its your life, go nuts...ride fast die hard apparently....

The more you guys tell me not to get it or tell me stories about people purhasing it and making the wrong decision makes me want to get it even more!  Everybody is diff. man, i was born to ride!

so why did you even get a 500 to begin with? if your just going to outgrow a 600/750?  you should have just gotten the 1000 first off and just been really careful.   the point of the hp doubling thing, is so you can adjust yoru riding style to the different accel rates of having a more powerful bike.  your looking at a 450% hp increase over the gs.  just from exprience being 18 once myself.  you can't handle it.  your young you don't think with the head on your shoulders.  but hey man, prove me wrong.

I personally never saw the appeal of an 1000cc bike. First off saying you will get tired of 600cc then 750cc and finally 1000cc. A liter bike cant do that much more then a 600cc then maybe a higher top speed and a second or 2 faster 0-60. So you'll get bored going 140mph and want to go 180mph? Also, it sounds like you just want to have the biggest there is only because you think for some reason you'll for sure get bored. Ha! So if there were 1500cc bikes ehh fuke it. I'll get tired of 600, 750, 1000, I'll just got w/ a 1500cc.  Because I'll just get bored w/ a 1000cc.  :lol:

    In my opinion a 1000cc bike is too heavy. Plus they guzzle gas which is why I love motorcycles for there great mpg.  Plus they cost too much to maintain. I wouldnt mind having a big displacement Cruiser maybe. But as far as sport bikes I'm sure I would be happy with a 600cc even dare I say, a 750. But who knows, maybe I'll have to upgrade to a liter and a 1/2 bike one day.

-ash

Quote from: ashmanI personally never saw the appeal of an 1000cc bike. First off saying you will get tired of 600cc then 750cc and finally 1000cc. A liter bike cant do that much more then a 600cc then maybe a higher top speed and a second or 2 faster 0-60. So you'll get bored going 140mph and want to go 180mph? Also, it sounds like you just want to have the biggest there is only because you think for some reason you'll for sure get bored. Ha! So if there were 1500cc bikes ehh fuke it. I'll get tired of 600, 750, 1000, I'll just got w/ a 1500cc.  Because I'll just get bored w/ a 1000cc.  :lol:

    In my opinion a 1000cc bike is too heavy. Plus they guzzle gas which is why I love motorcycles for there great mpg.  Plus they cost too much to maintain. I wouldnt mind having a big displacement Cruiser maybe. But as far as sport bikes I'm sure I would be happy with a 600cc even dare I say, a 750. But who knows, maybe I'll have to upgrade to a liter and a 1/2 bike one day.

-ash

Actually the 2005 model of the gxsr-1000 is lighter than the older 600cc models.

Just get the Hayabusa GSX1300R...  Then you'll have even longer before you outgrow it.

You'll have to wait for someone to make a faster bike.

Oh wait...  Screw that...  Get a top-fuel drag-racing bike.  There's no way you could outgrow that...  At least for a few years. :thumb:

You're getting yourself in WAAAYYYY over your head. Ride a CBR 600RR; I guarantee you won't feel like you have grown out of it. Ever. Get a buddy to let you borrow his. Don't have this cocky little attitude- it'll get you hurt at the very least.

Dave  :cheers:

Hayabusa GSX1300R!!!

I don't think it's possible to outgrow that thing.  Especially if you kill yourself on it.

You dont need a litre bike especially coming from a 500 you are making your coice no matter what i tell you. But wait what the hell are you going to do on a litre bike that can't be done on a 750? Most of the people i know riding litre bike have 15 years experience and recomended the gs as my first bike then several others before trying to buy an r1 exc. Sure there are stories about people learning on litre bikes exc. Trust me I have a few freinds that are paying off big bikes that were crashed from inexperince.  Oh yeah one of them did thousands of wheelies throughout the years.  He came down on one wrong and that was the end of the bike.   You will not know what the hell to do when that front wheel starts lifting when you power out of a turn to early and you are still leaning.  Oh yeah then the whole top speed thing over about 150 you are outdriving your sight.  This means you will see something and if you havent started moving upon sight Wham.  Just trust everybody here and get a 600.  PS the gsxr 750 is a favorate bike even of many litre bike owners.

Hmmm.. maybee the 500cc GS is too much ehh?? Should we all start off on 50cc bikes? Why chastise everyone who wants a bigger bike? I have only been riding 3 months and I rode my friends busa for 200 miles. I didnt die, I wasnt even remotley scared of it.. yea its fast but if you have a good head on your sholders you can ride any bike. I am still plenty happy with my little GS but I dont see the point in being affraid of a bigger bike. If you are comfortable on it buy it.. But ride one first! I dont think that all that power is worth it.

Quote from: Pinoy21337The more you guys tell me not to get it or tell me stories about people purhasing it and making the wrong decision makes me want to get it even more!  Everybody is diff. man, i was born to ride!

So was Rossi but he didn't jump on a liter bike... he slowly worked he way tru the cc classes like anybody with half a brain does... You better than Rossi?

Quote from: Pinoy21337The more you guys tell me not to get it or tell me stories about people purhasing it and making the wrong decision makes me want to get it even more!  Everybody is diff. man, i was born to ride!

You were born to crash too. Lets see, you've done 10k miles in 8 months, "commuting". thats just over a thousand a month...I did that riding once a week. If all you've done is do short trips around town commuting and thats all you're going to do then a liter will be okay. but get it out of your head that you'd outgrow a 600 or 750. I regularly spank liters on my 600 at the track, just like I used to spank 600's on my gs500 in the canyons. Its not the size of the bike, its the rider.

You'd be better off getting a 750 actually. best all around bike. even the magazines have said the gsxr 750 is a better bike than the liter gixxer. the liter has too much power to get on the gas as early as the 600 or 750 so you can run faster lap times on the smaller displacement bikes.

You are buying a new, biggest/baddest bike for all the wrong reasons. You have not outgrown your gs. You will not outgrow a 600.

Quote from: scottpeelyea its fast but if you have a good head on your sholders you can ride any bike.

That's the determining factor, and appears to be the one lacking in this case. Cocky as hell, he is.

Dave  :cheers:

Heck im thinking of buying a second bike...A GS500!! I'm thinking of nabbing a cheap gs500 to ride around again. Shelf the CBR for a bit and progress more as a rider. ive been entertaining the Idea, and its very easy financially...just gotta clean my garage....grr....

let the boy get a gsxr 1000
i'm waiting for the INS CO to figure out what he got...
and the INS goes up to...2500-3500/year
how can you out grow a 600....it's the same f%$king size as the 1000
just 2/3 the HP....


blah  blah  blah blah........

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXCocky as hell, he is.

:cheers:

Quote from: Pinoy21337The more you guys tell me not to get it or tell me stories about people purhasing it and making the wrong decision makes me want to get it even more!

Okay man...get the Gixxer thou'---whatever gets your rocks off.  But whatever you do...don't, under any circumstances send all of your money to me before you crash.

I speak from experience here son, do NOT send any money to the following address:

219 Village Circle
Santa Cruz, CA 95060

And please, for the love of God, don't let me sleep with your girlfriend once you're in the hospital recovering.  I repeat, you are making a big mistake.  DON'T LET ME SLEEP WITH YOUR GIRLFRIEND.

*patiently waits for check in the mail* :lol:

Quote from: scottpeelHmmm.. maybee the 500cc GS is too much ehh?? Should we all start off on 50cc bikes? Why chastise everyone who wants a bigger bike? I have only been riding 3 months and I rode my friends busa for 200 miles. I didnt die, I wasnt even remotley scared of it.. yea its fast but if you have a good head on your sholders you can ride any bike. I am still plenty happy with my little GS but I dont see the point in being affraid of a bigger bike. If you are comfortable on it buy it.. But ride one first! I dont think that all that power is worth it.

Was the 200 miles on the highway, or in the canyons?  (My point being that it doesn't take much to ride in a straight line.)

I work with a guy who owns a 2002 'Busa and just bought one of the new 05 GSX-R 1000s, and he swears up and down that the GSX-R is a goddamned monster and has scared him more than once with the power it has on tap all over the dial.  He loves his new bike, don't get me wrong, but I get the distinct impression it's not exactly a ride for the inexperienced.

Quote from: Jazzzzzit doesn't take much to ride in a straight line.

Even I can do that!  :thumb:

What insurance company is this?

I called a ton of insurance companies, and I pay ~$800 a year for my GS500 and my Speed Four.  I don't have full coverage on either of them.  I'm 31, no speeding tickets, no accidents, but have 100/300/50 coverage in case one of the uninsured motorists around here hits me.

I knew someone that was given the wrong info before he bought his bike.  He bought it, then when he went to insure it, they gave him a much higher price.  If you're 18, I can't imagine why your insurance would be so low, unless it's liability only.  On a GSX-R 1000, I'd definitely recommend full coverage.

I read somewhere that the average life-span of a GSX-R 1000 was like 60 days, anyone know if its true?  They're supposedly either crashed or stolen quickly.

I believe the #1 most-often stolen and crashed bike for this year is anything in the GSX-R series. Do a Google search and you'll find the same. Why? God, I don't know...

"I am a big boy, let me ride a big boy bike, mommy, I am big now!"

:cheers:

Quote from: scottpeelHmmm.. maybee the 500cc GS is too much ehh?? Should we all start off on 50cc bikes? Why chastise everyone who wants a bigger bike?

No, we chastise the people who think they've "outgrown" their bike.  After less than a year of commuting. :P  Even the GS is more of a bike than most folk out there are riders.

Why ask us if it's the wrong choice if you've already made up your mind?

Price tires when you've run through your first set at 3000 miles.

The scavengers will be waiting for spare G1k parts.

Quote from: Pinoy21337COme on man im not scared of the front wheel coming up.  Ive dont hundreds of wheelies on the gs and no accidents so far.  The reason for the 1000 is that if i get a 600 gxsr i will out grow it, if i get the 750 i would want to trade itin for a 1000 later so why not the 1000.  After 2005 all bikes cant have modified mufflers or anything, a law is being past.  If you you purcahse a 2006 bike and alter the muffler or exhast system in any way you can get fined big time.  I dont need a lecture on how the bike will do wheelies in 1st or 2nd with a twitch of the throttle hand or how it can go 90mph in first gear.  The main reason for this post is for the insurance quote and how accurate it seems.  And who makes the HP rules anyway about not to double it on another bike.  If i get the 750 i dont want to go threw hassle of trading it in for a 1000 down the road.  I plan on keeping the 1000 for a very long time.

for practical purposes, it is impossible to outgrow a 600 on the street, even doubtful on the track...

that remark is filled with so much bullshit, even the salesmen where i work (Barney's) talk to customers about outgrowing 600s etc etc, pretty damned retarded...you want a bike you can spank near anything with and will never outgrow? -> Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R 636ccs ...if you "outgrew" the 636 on the street you are breaking too MANY da*$% laws and will inevitably increase my yearly insurance rates!!!!

oh and when the 1000 is in a chop shop my theft coverage will go above the already sky high $1000 a year..... :nana:  :nana:  :nana:  :nana:

speaking of which, we just sold a 1000 cc bike yesterday and it was stolen today from the buyer who is now in debt for $11000 for something that doesnt exist....last christmas we sold 2 men red yamaha yzf-r1's before they even rode 200 feet out on to the main road they both wrecked, half a year ago a man purchased a hayabusa (aka pee pee mobile) and wrecked it into the place where employees park and never even got out of the parking lot....sold a ninja zx-6rr to a guy who wanted to ride it home, after we saw that he didnt know how to start it, it took 3 salesmen to convince him let us deliver it...every day i get AT LEAST one call from an insurance company looking to get a quote on replacement parts for wrecked ninja zx-6rs (636)...

statistically i will be looking forward to your post about your stolen gsxr or totalled gsxr, but whatever your decision may be, it is yours and all I have done was impart to you everday facts..

best of luck...

cheers,
alex

Quote from: JazzzzzWas the 200 miles on the highway, or in the canyons?  (My point being that it doesn't take much to ride in a straight line.)

 Hmmm.. yea, I was on a 200 mile long straight road !?!?! Never turned once....

Wow... I pay $76/ year on my 2001 GS500 for insurance.  Male, married, 33, no kids, gainfully employed, Texan.

i take it Scott you have never been to nebraska.

Quote from: '04gs500flast christmas we sold 2 men red yamaha yzf-r1's before they even rode 200 feet out on to the main road they both wrecked,

That's a good trick...

Quote from: davipui take it Scott you have never been to nebraska.

Or North Dakota. Either place - forget 200 miles, you can go all day without seeing a turn.

Quote from: Roadstergal

Quote from: '04gs500flast christmas we sold 2 men red yamaha yzf-r1's before they even rode 200 feet out on to the main road they both wrecked,

That's a good trick...

they were each going the opposite direction on highway 60, of course they wanted to show off, we warned them about new/cold tires and cold roads near christmas, but they both hammered it and ended up on their asses

Ho Ho Ho...

Quote from: RoadstergalHo Ho Ho...

santa didn't pay their repair bill that, they were bad little children

before we turn this into a 15 page thread... is this guy actually serious??

He is either joking or missing a chromosome :?

Either way... is it worth all of this effort to continue... if he is serious... you all have given him the information that he should take into account..  after that... good luck hope he wears gear

Quote from: gazingwaafter that... good luck hope he wears gear

If by gear you mean flip-flops, t-shirt and frat-boy reverse baseball cap, then yeah. He'll be all geared up.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

What a waste of good metal. And plastic. And rubber.

you forgot to mention the extremely protective docker shorts :thumb:

It's a good thing he's taken the MSF class, though, right?  I mean, he has taken the class, hasn't he?  :roll:

Quote from: aaronstjIt's a good thing he's taken the MSF class, though, right?  I mean, he has taken the class, hasn't he?  :roll:

If by MSF course, you mean Merely Speeding Forth, then yes. He's taken the MSF course.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Try the veal.

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Try the veal.

1 point for hulap0pr  :cheers:

Quote from: Pinoy21337Im thinking about purchasing a new bike.  Right now I pay $360 for my GSE a year.  I called up my Insurance Company and asked for a quote on a 2005 Suzuki GSXR-1000 and they said if i keep my GSE on the insurance plan (which i prob. will) they said my insurance will only go up $150 a year!  Idunno but that seems kind of low to me, shouldnt' it be more like $1400 a year or something?  I asked the guy to double check and he said he is positive.  By the way im 18 years old.

Anyhow I think i'm ready for a litre bike.  This past 5 months i put over 10k miles on my bike and went on three 800 mile trips to my mom's house in Delaware.  No accidents so far and when I first got my bike about 8 months ago i didn't know how to ride good.  I think i accomplished and learned a lot these past 8month.  I ride my bike everyday rain or shine to work and college.  So hopefully i can start riding a litre bike pretty soon!

haha your funny, haha this is a joke right...is it?...oh no he is serious.

have you even ridden a 600?  they will put you on your butt on the highway runnin 70.  and the new 1000 is just as small as a 600 and ten times the bike. and i thought i made my self look like a know it all, thanks for taking my place. :thumb:  :lol:

I still think he should get a 'busa.   :thumb:

Quote from: thirdmanWow... I pay $76/ year on my 2001 GS500 for insurance.  Male, married, 33, no kids, gainfully employed, Texan.

Which company?  I am in Texas too, and I haven't been able to get any cheaper than Progressive.

Quote from: Pinoy21337Im thinking about purchasing a new bike.  ...
Anyhow I think i'm ready for a litre bike.  This past 5 months i put over 10k miles on my bike and went on three 800 mile trips to my mom's house in Delaware.  No accidents so far and when I first got my bike about 8 months ago i didn't know how to ride good.  I think i accomplished and learned a lot these past 8month.  I ride my bike everyday rain or shine to work and college.  So hopefully i can start riding a litre bike pretty soon!

Troll.  :roll:

And in the slight case that you are serious, you have no idea what you are in for. Everyone is telling you this for a reason, I'm sure a few of them have "been there done that" ... and you haven't. Do the math. :roll: I havent heard a single person that has said a litre is better than a 600 on the street.

I say go for it! :thumb:

He must be one of those gifted riders.....

8 Months on the GS and less than 50 posts and everyone trying to tell you what you should really be thinking about.....everyone here is right. I know from first hand experience.....I really don't want to give all the details but....lets just say I bought me a new 2005 1k Yellow and Black toy sitting in my garage the has less then 100 miles on it that I'm not ready to be riding.....I thought I was but I'm not....I've been on the GS500E for two years and have put lots of miles on it....well...25,000 and have taken the MSF and still...I thought I was ready. NOPE! I got it because it looks cool and I though I would look cool on it. I should have went to a 750 or maybe a 600. Think about it before you do it. Everyone here is just trying to help you and keep you alive. :cheers:

Quote from: scottpeel

Quote from: JazzzzzWas the 200 miles on the highway, or in the canyons?  (My point being that it doesn't take much to ride in a straight line.)

 Hmmm.. yea, I was on a 200 mile long straight road !?!?! Never turned once....

I'm just talking about taking a turn that required leaning more than 15 degrees over at a decent speed :P

I test rode the gsxr 750 and am in love with it. I dont want a 600 and i dont want a 1000. The 750 is all i need, and its what i will get in the winter. If you want the 1000 and think you are ready for it, why not buy it, its not our decision. If i wanted the 1000 i couldnt care less what ppl thought.  :cheers:

I dont ride agressively. I Dont feel the need to.  :mrgreen: I just go out and cruise, look at the sites... High speed cornering is best left for a controlled track environment  :thumb: There is too much gravel lurking in the turns, and old ladys driving on the inside of my lane here in PA  :mrgreen: So my point was.. If you can ride one bike you can ride most any bike, just dont ride it like your on the track.  :thumb:

Top Speeds from Cycle world Aug 2005

CBR600RR = 146 mph
ZX-6r = 149 mph
gsxr600 = 145 mph
daytona 650 = 146 mph
yzf-r6 = 148 mph
rsv1000r = 157 mph
999s = 153 mph
gsxr750 = 152 mph
cbr1000rr = 157 mph
zx-10r = 164 mph
agusta f4 1000s = 159 mph
gsxr1000 = 161 mph
r1 = 162 mph

So you're telling me that for a bit more torque  and about 10 more mph that you probably won't use that often unless you track ride or you don't mind losing your license that a litre bike is worth the higher risk and insurance if you think so and you feel confident in your riding skills go for it, if you don't then take some track school courses and work your way up to it. You get one shot at life and you get to choose how to live it. Good luck.

when it comes to street riding I believe that there is a point when you can get from 0 to the posted speed limit TOO fast....

my concern is never how quickly I can go from 0-60....but rather from 60-0....

The current Motorcyclist has a comparo between the ZX-6R and the GSX-R1000.  Their final take?  If you're a superbly talented balls-out rider who plans on spending a lot of time at the track, go for the GSX-R.  If not, the ZX-6R is the better choice.  

jeff

After a year on the gsxr he will have outgrown it anyway and will be asking the gsxr forum if he is ready for a trubo kit and nitrous.  If he is still around.  He is exactly like some of the people i saw on the dyno at carlise.  Big bikes young guys and no idea how to ride them.

Quote from: Pinoy21337..........The main reason for this post is for the insurance quote and how accurate it seems..........

If that was true then you would not have included the second paragraph in your first post.

I have been thinking I want a bigger bike too.  I don't want it to drag knees with and hang corners.  I want something that has more power to ride 2 up, could be taken to the drag strip to have a little fun, and to take on some road trips.

If I stick with Suzuki then the 750 Katana will be my next step up.  A little more comfortible than a gixxer and a better for 2 up riding for me.



Go ride a 1000 then make your choice.  I have recently rode a older 1100 Honda.  Plenty of power but not that comfy.  Look and think before you buy.

If you accidently blip the throttle on a GS 500, worst case: unload the front fork, but not lift the tire.

Accidently blip the throttle on a GSX-R: high side baby!  

Sounds good!   :thumb:

Yeah, but that is a pretty good insurance rate.  What is your insurance company?

Quote from: xtalman

Quote from: thirdmanWow... I pay $76/ year on my 2001 GS500 for insurance.  Male, married, 33, no kids, gainfully employed, Texan.

Which company?  I am in Texas too, and I haven't been able to get any cheaper than Progressive.

Mine is Progressive.  Weird.

He hasnt replyed in a while, think he crashed?

Quote from: 8lbsofboostHe hasnt replyed in a while, think he crashed?

UPDATE: I got this picture of him from his dad (I know him personally):



By the way, the pics are out of order. The order is from bottom left to top right, top middle, top left, bottom right, bottom middle.

He had 15 miles on the odometer. But he had fun!

Dave  :cheers:

Why bash him? let him get it if he wants it.

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Quote from: xtalman

Quote from: thirdmanWow... I pay $76/ year on my 2001 GS500 for insurance.  Male, married, 33, no kids, gainfully employed, Texan.

Which company?  I am in Texas too, and I haven't been able to get any cheaper than Progressive.

Mine is Progressive.  Weird.

Damn!  Do you have an agent you go through?  I feel like I'm getting taken advantage of.

Just my 2cents. I had an 01 GSXR750, and my big bro had the 1000. I loved both, but the only complaint I had about the 750 was that for one, (this is a big one) the 600 had 5 less hp and was just as fast, especially when you put a sprocket and exhaust, and jets on it. Two, I burned through gallons of gas with my 750 totally wraped out chasing my brother through north Texas on his 1000. I only rode the 1000 a few times, and it was a lot of fun. For the money and performace, you just can't beat the 600.

Quote from: xtalman
Damn!  Do you have an agent you go through?  I feel like I'm getting taken advantage of.

Nope...  I did it online.  I should have mentioned that I have the barest minimum insurance to be legal... no extras.

Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDX

Quote from: 8lbsofboostHe hasnt replyed in a while, think he crashed?

UPDATE: I got this picture of him from his dad (I know him personally):



By the way, the pics are out of order. The order is from bottom left to top right, top middle, top left, bottom right, bottom middle.

He had 15 miles on the odometer. But he had fun!

Dave  :cheers:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  lmao it's funny because hes on fire. but im glad he's ok.....