(http://image63.webshots.com/63/5/8/33/406350833eStrxk_ph.jpg)
how would you guys suggest i go about painting the frame of this bike (either silver or black) because right now it has this wierd two tone thing going on, i dont know what the previous owner was trying to do there. would i go about it like i would the other parts of the bike? other than making sure everything that i dont want to get paint on is carefully covered up. has anyone else done this before?
make your pic work :(
i dont know why it isnt working but here is the link http://image63.webshots.com/63/5/8/33/406350833eStrxk_ph.jpg
It looks like he was either:
A) Trying to make a Cammo GS
or
B) Started painting and gave up half way through...[/list:u]
I think it's pretty uggo man... There are a few threads around here about painting... I think the frame is pretty straight forward. I.E. Sand, tape, paint...
You should match up that front fender too! :thumb:
Try again.. your link doesnt work either :dunno:
I pasted it into a new IE window... Worked for me.
Guessing what the old owner was trying to do is worth the view... :lol:
http://community.webshots.com/user/jeremy4u88 here this will work there are a couple of pics in there
150 Rear tire? :?
Did you get it for a good price? Some extra time and paint will be well worth it if you ask me.
yeah i did, i got it for $650 plus he delivered it to my house (about 80mi). when i got it, it didnt run but after a couple of days of work i have it running fairly well.
Sounds like a good deal to me... I got mine for a great price... $500 in tires and maintenence later, it just developed a new problem (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19575)
is a 150 not a good tire for the gs. the guy i bought it from said that was brand new so i guess that is a plus. also the front only has about 1000 miles on it.
The stock size is 130/70 -17... Everything I've read has said that a 140+ does nothing good but make it look cooler. Some have said it makes it a little harder to control, since the tire is being squeezed out of shape...
I don't know from experience though... I went from a nearly bald and square 130 to a brand-new 130... That was a WORLD of difference.
Who knows though, maybe the old owner found a different size wheel too.
about painting the frame would you put a clear coat or not?
Well I got my frame painted up matt black.
I decided to not clearcoat it. This left it a bit vulnerable to petroil spills
and perhaps more upen to scratches.
On the plus side however I can fix up the paint with a quick wash and respray the area once it's dry.
Clear coat is usually a good idea... If you want it to look dull you can get flat or matte clear coats...
Sand it down, put a coat (or two if you feel like it) of color, then a coat (or two if you feel like it) of clear...
But... You don't have to do a clear coat.... It's just one more thing to screw up. :lol: I rattle-canned by '69 bug. I screwed up so many times with the color that I decided to wet-sand it and skip the clear coat. Then put a nice coat of wax on it. The parts that I bothered to paint didn't look half bad.
I would do three or four thin coats, but that's me. :)
Yeah... 3-4 thin coats of color and 3-4 thin coats of clear... That would be :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
But, I'm lazy... I tried to get away with one coat. :lol:
should i use( on the frame) enamel paint or is lacquer paint better to use? what about the rest of the parts (tank, fender, ect.)?
bump!! also which type of paint is best for gas spills on the tank?
being the great rattle can artist I am :roll: I frist got an estimate from Maco for them to pain my frame a metalic red [I got a fling for red and black] but anyways they quoted me $110. that included paint prep, paint, labor, the ultra hard baking process [oven roasted :lol] and then clear coat. Only gripe is that you need to be mechanicaly inclined to dissassemble the bike completly down to every nut and bolt and every wireing harness then put it back together correctly after the frame is painted. If I was going all out I'd find someone to sand blast the frame too while I was at it so the finish will be mirror shine and the metal sealed :) Speaking of which I would also get them to shoot a coat on the cooling fins of the engine so it'd be pimped out :cheers: might as well as the motor is out of the frame
I also got a quote for powder coat on the frame.....YIKES....$450 for just paint
While I'm thinking about it You could also go the route of polishing the frame :thumb: just make sure you CLEAR COAT the metal or after 3weeks you'll have a rust job special :bs: :bs: dang on oxidation
Edit*
Forgot all about the gas tank situation....Nothing is going to withstand a gas spill. Gas is a great disolver and works very well to remove paint. The only thing to avoid this is to clear coat after clear coat folowed by some muscle elbow grease wax job. I personaly would suggest the Turtle wax brand that comes in the spray bottle. Water beads up instantly and has worked well on my bike. Just keep it off of plastic stuff as it de-colors them
i was thinking more along the lines of a good rattle can job. i was thinking about covering everything that i didnt want to get paint on with newspaper/plastic ect., and then spraying the frame first with some primer and then with a nice silver color. do you think that would work? i mean it doesnt have to be perfect but it would probubly be alot better than it is right now (look at the picture). my main question is which type of paint would be better for the job enamel or lacquer?
since we are talking about paint I also have a question for you rattle can artists.
I recently panted a faring I bought with primer before the top coat, but now I like the look of the flat black primer so much I want to keep it. Is that OK, will the primer hold up to the elements just as well as any other paint? :dunno:
primer is specialy formulated to stick to smooth surfaces and when it dries it has a rought surface so the paint will stick. Paint is made to seal and stand against the elements primer-no. What you need is flat black paint. not the gloss stuff :cheers:
my question??
Sorry for stealing this post but thanks for the answer.
and now back to this question...
Quote from: calvert0014i was thinking more along the lines of a good rattle can job. i was thinking about covering everything that i didnt want to get paint on with newspaper/plastic ect., and then spraying the frame first with some primer and then with a nice silver color. do you think that would work? i mean it doesnt have to be perfect but it would probubly be alot better than it is right now (look at the picture). my main question is which type of paint would be better for the job enamel or lacquer?
Quote from: calvert0014my main question is which type of paint would be better for the job enamel or lacquer?
enamel or lacquer? - enamel or lacquer? - enamel or lacquer?
That IS the question you asked, isn't it?
I dont know either :dunno:
Found this in a diferent post (http://gstwins.com/gsboard/index.php?topic=16147).
Quote from: 94suzuki500i sprayed enamel on my bike because of the gas tank being exposed to a drip or two of gas when you fill up, i didnt use enamel. on my friends car he used laquer and he also used clear coat on it. Laquer is easier to buff but enamel is alot tougher. I dont know much about the 2 stage and 3 stage i think that might be pertaining to the primer then paint then clear. I dont really know just a guess. Ya but i think it will be good with no clear coat, that way you have less of a chance of making a mistake and the little extra money and time it takes to spray it. But ya do whatever, your bike. Peace
Edit: Updated Link
hey red_phil,
i have a couple of questions for you. first of all, how difficult was it to paint the frame of your bike? how long did it take? is it really necessary to remove the wheels and chain (if you just wanted to paint the frame, nothing else)? also i was planning to go from a black to a silver frame, is it nessicary to use primer?
oh, and for the rest of you, how much do you think it would cost to get Maaco or some other auto body shop like it just to paint my tank, side panels, and fender all one solid color? it shouldnt be that much, should it?
You should look through the User's pics for a Flat Black bike...
If mine was a wacked out color, I would go for Flat Black... or Yellow! :)
bump
If your frame is to really be painted ... I mean a decent paint job on it ... you'll have to take the motor out and literally strip the frame bare. I'd suggest you go the extra step, and weld up the gaps and incomplete welds there by shutting the elements out (do not weld the drainage holes in the main spars shut) but the mounting tabs and the brackets and gussets have plenty of gaps ... you want to shut it and lock the elements out and prevent water collecting in the crevices. In fact I'd do one extra mod (if you aren't going to install the stock air box back in) and make a shock top mount that will take a GSXR 01+ shock straight in. I know it fits a stock one, but the extra features like ride height etc are not available in stock ... Then I'd take it to a powdercoating shop and have them blast it ... or acid dip it and a good shop should be able to clean up the frame well of all past corrosion ... my guy does synthetic sand blasting ... and then powdercoat it. I'd have to take some pics when Danny's frame is done.
Cool.
Srinath.
i have nowhere near that kind of money, but my frame needs something bad (see the pictures)
My welder charged me (Danny) $100 ... and powder is another $100 I believe. Blasting is included in powder coating. I mean elbow grease also has a price as does the better quality of finished product. It will take you forever to sand and paint the frame and the result will not be as good. Heck if I had a bad frame I'd do it in a jif ... and I am cheapskate #1. Honestly this $200 will push the value/desirability of your bike up by over 2-3-4 times that ...
Cool.
Srinath.
yeah, $100 for sandblasting and powdercoating the frame is not bad at all. ill probubly get that done in the future, but i just looking for something sort of temporary to make that frame look a little better. also, i dont really have a place where i can really dissasemble the entire bike and keep all of the parts (nope not even a garage). i have been doing all the work on my driveway.i dont think it should be too difficlt to just remove the tank, seat, side pannels, ect. and cover everything else up w/ plastic or newspaper. then, spray the frame with some primer and paint.... what do you guys think?
i finally did it, here are a few pics:
here it is with just the primer:
(http://www.photodump.com/direct/calvert0014/DSC00856.jpg)
(http://www.photodump.com/direct/calvert0014/DSC00857.jpg)
and here i put the silver base coat on:
(http://www.photodump.com/direct/calvert0014/DSC00860.jpg)
(http://www.photodump.com/direct/calvert0014/DSC00864.jpg)
i decided not to do the rear swing arm cause it would have been alot more work. but, i might go back and do it later. over all it turned out pretty good. probubly the only thing i would have changed would have been not using a primer color that was so similar to the top coat, i could hardly tell where i had already painted.
Nice... I'm too lazy to pull the whole bike appart.
Is that shadow near the handle bars? Looks a little darker.
yeah its a shadow i got it pretty evenly covered. how do you think it looks without the swing arm painted?
I think it's kinda slick actually... With the black wheel.
I've seen a few people that painted the sub-frame black and the rest silver...
Good work; I guess you REALLY don't like camo! I had the frame of my '99 GS powdercoated black right after I bought it, because I dislike the original color so much. I see nothing wrong with your black swingarm, but you can decide what to do about it some other time.
To be honest, I liked the camo paint job, but that is probably because I spent so many years in the Army; that came out much better than I thought it would when you first started this thread. Any minor scratches in the paint will be less noticeable because you used grey primer, which IMO was the right choice.
Thanks for the pics.
Sorry for not getting back to you, I missed the thread bump.
Looks good.
I found I needed to strip off the wheels & chain etc mainly so I could clear the rust off the swingarm pivot and back of the exhaust.
Also took out the air box to get the back side of the frame as it was bad too on my bike.
I had it easy with the engine as I was spraying the whole lot black.
I just used Hammerite BBQ spray paint on the whole lot at once.
One thing I found dead useful for masking fiddily bits was clingfilm.
I tested with my paint and it didn't react to it.