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Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 02, 2005, 07:11:37 PM
I want to put in a new air filter, oil filter, and change the oil on my bike when I get back home.  

I wanted to know if there is anything better than K&N.  I hear very good things about them and by their price(about 45 bucks for an air filter) I believe they are top of the line.  

I read someone say something about a drop in and a lunchbox one.  Are they even better?

Any other suggestions to keep the bike in tip top order when I get back?
Title: Re: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: weaselnoze on August 02, 2005, 09:14:33 PM
Quote from: dablinkbostonI want to put in a new air filter, oil filter, and change the oil on my bike when I get back home.  

I wanted to know if there is anything better than K&N.  I hear very good things about them and by their price(about 45 bucks for an air filter) I believe they are top of the line.  

I read someone say something about a drop in and a lunchbox one.  Are they even better?

Any other suggestions to keep the bike in tip top order when I get back?

the drop in wont make much of a difference (none at all performance wise with the restrictor ring and no rejet) however the lunchbox with a rejet and a pipe makes quite a bit of difference.  sounds great and a definate performance boost
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 02, 2005, 09:38:22 PM
So the lunchbox air filter makes it louder too?  I already have the exhaust.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 02, 2005, 10:14:39 PM
not really louder, but if you put on luch box you will need to rejet to compensate for the large amount of air your carbs will be able to suck in. Otherwise you might end up with a lean condition.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 02, 2005, 10:33:36 PM
Will it definitely be noticeable the extra power?  From lower rpms? or what?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: brembo on August 02, 2005, 11:43:40 PM
What about just changing the jets and air filter, no change to the stock pipe?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: weaselnoze on August 03, 2005, 04:10:07 AM
Quote from: dablinkbostonSo the lunchbox air filter makes it louder too?  I already have the exhaust.

i had just a pipe too.  sounded good but when i did the rejet and put the lunchbox on it was definately louder and more throaty.  i can actually hear air being sucked in the filter right between my legs
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 09:09:32 AM
Wow, sounds great.  Do you think it's a better idea for my to do it myself or bring it to a shop to have it rejetted?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 12:18:41 PM
Quote from: dablinkbostonWow, sounds great.  Do you think it's a better idea for my to do it myself or bring it to a shop to have it rejetted?

You can do it yourself. It is not difficult if you have some experience with working with carbs.

I know some will scoff at me for saying this, but I reccomend the Dyno Jet rejet kit. It has instructions and is easy.

One thing to remember, dont loose the little o-rings on the top of the diaphram, and use the stock plastic spacers on the new needles. If you just put in new jets and use stock needles then you do not need to worry about the spacers.

I would suggest though if you are going to go to the trouble to re-jet, then put an aftermarked exaust on it. The exaust section is where the most flow restriction is on a stock bike.
Title: Scoff
Post by: The Buddha on August 03, 2005, 12:21:51 PM
Scoff ... Vfrocket ... scoff ...  :lol:
Buy Srinath Jet kit ... Oh ... 01 GS ... Never mind.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Scoff
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 12:25:48 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathScoff ... Vfrocket ... scoff ...  :lol:
Buy Srinath Jet kit ... Oh ... 01 GS ... Never mind.
Cool.
Srinath.

I didnt think you would be that fast!! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 01:32:23 PM
I don't have any experience with carbs! :(

Well I could get a friend or someone to help me.  I already have a V&H exhaust on it.  I wanted to get a nice air filter to go with it, but it sounds kind of hard.  I've read all the directions already.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: weaselnoze on August 03, 2005, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: dablinkbostonI don't have any experience with carbs! :(

Well I could get a friend or someone to help me.  I already have a V&H exhaust on it.  I wanted to get a nice air filter to go with it, but it sounds kind of hard.  I've read all the directions already.

i jumped in with no experience at all. i just went slow, followed some good directions and was careful.  honestly it didnt take me long at all.  it was really easy.  and to install the lunchbox just remove the airbox and put the lunchbox in place.  realllly simple.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 01:49:18 PM
already have vance and hines, awsome. That is good.

You can ask srinath what jets to use and what washers for the do-it-yourself version.

what year is your bike???
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 01:52:49 PM
here is a good link.

http://pantablo500.tripod.com/id23.html
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 01:54:56 PM
I've already read that!!  hehe, I told you I already read the posts.  Yeah, I have the exhaust and wanted to put in the lunchbox K&N although I think the hard part is the little washers and stuff putting in the right size and all.
Title: 01
Post by: The Buddha on August 03, 2005, 01:54:57 PM
Quote from: vfrocketalready have vance and hines, awsome. That is good.

You can ask srinath what jets to use and what washers for the do-it-yourself version.

what year is your bike???

Its an 01 ... I dont know first hand about 01+'s.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 01:56:37 PM
Mine is an 02.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 01:58:21 PM
If boston was within driving distance of Dallas I would come help you. It really is not too hard to do. You remove the seat, the side pannels, and the tank. then you can reach in and get to the airbox and carbs.

You may want to invest in a clymer manual. If you do not feel totally comfortable then take it to a dealer, but they will most likely want to put in a dynojet kit. ~$80 plus labor.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 02:00:45 PM
just went to the DJ site, and I dont see a kit for '01. I see one for 89-00 and one for '04-05.

I guess the question is does your carbs have a pilot and a main, or pilot, mids, and mains.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: weaselnoze on August 03, 2005, 02:01:43 PM
dyno jet sucks (says everyone)
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 02:03:24 PM
It's an 02, not an 01.

I think I can handle taking everything off and finding the pieces, but then it's actually changing things to the right sizes and checking the liquid to see if it's light brown to make sure it's the right sizes.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 02:05:14 PM
LOL, ok, what was the other kind?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: weaselnoze on August 03, 2005, 02:07:03 PM
what in the where now? ok its simple. find someone who has the same set up as you (filter n pipe) and same carb year (01+).  ask them what jet sizes they used.  find a few different ppl and use teh most common settings.  SIMPLE!  whats this hershey squirts ur talkin about?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 02:09:18 PM
I don't know, never tried it, but just seems like I could mess something up pretty easily....but hey, I'll try when I get back. :thumb:
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 02:14:15 PM
Quote from: weaselnozedyno jet sucks (says everyone)

I have DJ kit, and I like it.... so not everyone says they suck.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 02:16:35 PM
lol, well I think I'll go with the majority.  sorry
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: D-Day on August 03, 2005, 02:51:03 PM
The K&N filter that mounts directly to the carbs will make the bike sound a lot better.  I love the sound of the intake at full song.  You hear it more than the exhaust.

I used the Dyno Jet kit when I put on the V&H.  It worked perfectly.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: dablinkboston on August 03, 2005, 03:04:40 PM
So would it be a stage 3 jet kit that I buy because I already have the V&N exhaust and I want to get a K&N lunchbox.  Is there anything else needed for stage 3?
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: vfrocket on August 03, 2005, 03:14:31 PM
Yes with K&N Lunchbox, and aftermarket pipe, the stage 3 would be the way to go.
Title: K&N air/oil filters
Post by: D-Day on August 03, 2005, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: vfrocketYes with K&N Lunchbox, and aftermarket pipe, the stage 3 would be the way to go.

Ditto on what he said.