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Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 04, 2005, 10:10:47 PM
So i have a radar detector in my car... but find myself speeding more often on the motorcycle...  i am getting a tank bag and have thought of a way that i could have the detector in the tank bag with the indicator lights visible.. the question i have is.. would that decrease its ability to pick up a signal by being in the bag?  i wouldn't think so because it can pick up a signal from behind thick auto glass

so if you have any idea or if you know of any other good ideas let me know

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: my00forest on August 04, 2005, 10:30:10 PM
i too have been throwing around the idea of putting a detector on my bike. i was gonna go to wallmart and get a cheapo detector to try some things out. maybe hard wire it and split it open, mount the sensors under the headlight and the indicator lights on the tank or gauge cluster somehow. just theorizing, havent researched it yet or looked into it too deeply. if you figure out a good way to mount it let us know
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: rclz on August 04, 2005, 11:07:11 PM
remember that guy on this forum who works for adaptiv technologies that was talking about the radar detector for a bike. Word on the street is that they are still seeking investors.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: Roadstergal on August 04, 2005, 11:10:36 PM
When I saw the title of the thread, I was thinking, "can't you just look and see?"
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: davipu on August 04, 2005, 11:24:44 PM
It 's all in how you mount it. I'm tto drunk to tipoe more  mp me later
e
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: my00forest on August 04, 2005, 11:32:21 PM
Quote from: davipuIt 's all in how you mount it. I'm tto drunk to tipoe more  mp me later
e
hehe, i wish i was drunk enough to read this  :cheers:
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: kimo3825 on August 04, 2005, 11:43:10 PM
I can't remember what site I say it. There is something similair out there but it connects to your handle bars or gets mounted like the vr. I'll try and look for it again and let you know what I find.
Title: Re: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: RedShift on August 05, 2005, 03:39:22 AM
Quote from: JoChan23So i have a radar detector in my car... but find myself speeding more often on the motorcycle...  i am getting a tank bag and have thought of a way that i could have the detector in the tank bag with the indicator lights visible.. the question i have is.. would that decrease its ability to pick up a signal by being in the bag?  i wouldn't think so because it can pick up a signal from behind thick auto glass

so if you have any idea or if you know of any other good ideas let me know

- Jordan
I say put the detector on the bike and keep riding fast.  If you get caught before the device tells you the "boys in blue" are watching, you will need to go to Plan B.  :)

Of course you could always slow down and avoid this problem all together.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: RedShift on August 05, 2005, 03:43:24 AM
Quote from: RoadstergalWhen I saw the title of the thread, I was thinking, "can't you just look and see?"
:lol: I had to learn more too...  :lol:
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: scottpA_GS on August 05, 2005, 08:16:05 AM
JC Whitney has a cordless radar detector for bikes, and a cool mount  :thumb:  :thumb:

(http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/10029516.gif)

http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/Product/showCustom-0/Pr-p_Product.CATENTRY_ID:2001711/c-10101/Nty-1/p-2001711/Ntx-mode+matchallpartial/N-10101/tf-Browse/s-10101/Ntk-AllTextSearchGroup?Ntt=radar
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 05, 2005, 09:35:52 AM
But of course you redshift have never exceeded the speed limit in your life right?  :dunno:

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: vfrocket on August 05, 2005, 06:40:50 PM
radar detectors dont work. Dont waste your money.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: calamari on August 05, 2005, 07:08:53 PM
...
straight and lonely road, no cars on view, look around... no helis on view either, look back... nothing.

I say go for it and go fast for a few seconds.

In the city/crowded freeway/town... why would you want to speed more than a safe 'speed' ? (posted)
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 06, 2005, 05:03:29 PM
Im not suggesting it is "ok" or "acceptable" to speed but where i live cars are pulled over constantly for exceeding the speed limit by just 5 miles/hr.

i am not suggesting that i need a radar detector to protect me from getting pulled over while going dangerously fast... for two reasons..

1. i realize that radar detectors do not make you invinsible.  The only prayer you have with a detector is if you are approaching a patrol vehicle on a straight road and he is either going the opposite direction, or sitting with his k, or kx band detector constantly on.  radar detectors will pick up the signal in most of these cases before he can actually read your speed, especially in traffic.

2. i do not think 30 in a 25, or 40 in a 35 is unsafe or "more than a safe speed"  :dunno:

mostly what i use the detector in my car for is to know if i am approaching a patrol vehicle in situation 1. or to know if the police vehicle i just passed knows how fast i was just going.  

so in short, my feeling is that radar detectors do work.. for what they are intended to do.. they do not work however as some people expect, and tha is why i am sure to tell all of my customers this when they purchase their detector.

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: vfrocket on August 06, 2005, 05:35:41 PM
Quote1. i realize that radar detectors do not make you invinsible. The only prayer you have with a detector is if you are approaching a patrol vehicle on a straight road and he is either going the opposite direction, or sitting with his k, or kx band detector constantly on. radar detectors will pick up the signal in most of these cases before he can actually read your speed, especially in traffic.

That is true, but i would point out that most departments, including mine, which is a small department, do not use the constant on systems anymore. we usually will not turn it on until we see you, and then it is too late if you are speeding. It does not matter if you are going in the opposite direction, the computer in the radar unit compensates for the vehicles speed. And before anyone questions the calibration, they are calibrated at the beginning of every shift.

In short, again, they are a waste of money. the best defense against a speeding ticket is not to speed.

Please remeber that the 2 most common causes of traffic fatalities are excessive speed, and alcohol.

Please be safe.

(getting down off my soapbox now).
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: RedShift on August 06, 2005, 06:10:45 PM
Quote from: JoChan23But of course you redshift have never exceeded the speed limit in your life right?  :dunno:

- Jordan
Oh, I've sped lots of times.  I dare say all of us have from one time or another.  But that's not the point.  The point is realizing the error and doing something about it well before it becomes a problem.

Jordan, I'm of the opinion that local law enforcement is usually on the public's side.  Ever think that maybe there's good explanation behind why they are targeting a particular piece of road?  It's not always because they need the source of revenue tickets generate.  Sometimes it's really because unchecked speed on that section of road hurt someone (and the effects ripple).

We're likely to disagree here, and that's fine.  It's often good to air out an issue and you don't have to agree with me any more than I have to agree with you.

But the last time I got a ticket, I deserved it.  I was late to catch a plane and thought I could get away with it and I was wrong.  I barely made the plane, but the $100 for doing 15 mph over smartened me up.

Now this is where I could really draw some flack, but I feel like I'm on a roll... I see radar detectors as a means to allow users to speed unless they enter a monitored area -- then it's their technology against that of the police.  Radar detectors exist as a way to evade the law.

I'm willing to abide by the law or more usually the speed of traffic in the city.  I admit to have let loose.  If I get nabbed for doing over and it's legit, then I'm willing to suffer the consequences.

It's a simple case of being responsible for your actions.

Roy...

PS. Isn't free speech fun. :)

PPS. There's a good vid on the internet somewhere published by Australian law enforcement that shows the effect on stopping distance of a minor difference in typical city speeds.  I'll see if I can hunt it down to emphasize this point.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 06, 2005, 06:42:57 PM
well in my defense...

where i live they do use constant radar.... they do leave it on 75% of the time...

and the reason i mentioned the opposite direction thing is because the radar is shooting down the road towards you... i know how their radar works

and finally i do believe that the law enforcement and local government our on our side... hense my major = law enforcement  :thumb:

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 06, 2005, 06:46:33 PM
oh and P.S.

more than anything my radar detector is used as a way to remind me not to speed

2nd i do not believe it protects me from tickets.. (thought i made that one clear)

3rd i agree that not speeding is the best way to avoid a ticket

4th i think in most every case the driver deserves the ticket he gets

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: RedShift on August 06, 2005, 07:10:54 PM
Okay.  Found it.

Here's some food for thought about speeding offered down under (Austrailia):

Slow Down Please.mpeg (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/downloads/slomotvc.mpg)

(It's 6.1 MB of video -- may not stream well for those with slow connections.)

It is a rather graphic (explanitory, not gory) example of the difference between 60 kph (36 mph) and 65kph (39 mph) to stopping distance.

We don't think enough about the how quickly we can stop (me included).  Can we all agree to try to follow the rules of the road more often?

Roy...

PS. Here's the page that led me to the video link above, should someone be interested:

NSW (Austrailia) -- Speeding television advertisement  (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/advertisingcampaigns/speeding.html)
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 06, 2005, 10:19:58 PM
very interesting... but by that token we should probably do 20 in a 35 just to be safe  :thumb:

- Jordan
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: vfrocket on August 06, 2005, 11:06:08 PM
Redshift, great movie.

JoChan23, I hope you werent being sarcastic. I dont think you were, but it kinda came across like that.

I believe that speed limits are posted for a good reason, your safety. Speed does kill, imagine if you were doing 120mph and that semi pulled in front of you.

Hey dont get me wrong, I like to ride, and have fun, and go fast. But, there is one most common factor in all the motocycle accidents I have seen or read about...speed.

just be safe, and yeah I understand the point that radar detectors can help remind some to maintian a safe speed. that is about the only good reason I can think to have one.

If you use one so that you can speed, and not get caught, like you siad, they are not designed for that purpose, and in my opinon they are playing russian roulette with their lives by speeding.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: davipu on August 07, 2005, 07:11:53 AM
and the most imoprtant reason not to have one, when you get pulled over havign a detector shows intent to speed, and good luck getting out of the ticket.
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: JoChan23 on August 07, 2005, 07:21:40 AM
I agree with just about everything said... but what about the TOPIC lol  :lol:

- Jordan

P.S. - i am probably one of the biggest keepers of the speed you'll meet (well for being 20) and i was just playing the devil's advocate to rile you guys up  :cheers:
Title: Tank Bag Detector
Post by: Ed89 on August 07, 2005, 03:03:01 PM
Tape it to top of the helmet and route the led display to the visor.  If you got blue flashing lights behind you and don't want to be caught using a detector, just, uh, ditch the helmet.   :mrgreen:

Cheers,
e.