besides mounting brackets any ideas on how hard it would be to throw a gsxf 600 katana motor in a gs500? im thinking that the motor might be off a little to one side to line up with the chain and maybe diff chain size. does that kill the idea, does any other problems kill the idea? just a thought as my 89 gs500e motor has pretty much bit the dust.
i'll give you $100 if you can get it to fit...you give me $10 if it don't
frame is too narrow
engine will not fit between the upper frame rails
this has been beaten to death
try a nice single
XT550 xt600 SR-X 600
KLR 650
DR650
XR650L
KTM DUKEII 640
MZ scorpion 660
raptor 660
what about a gixxer 6? :mrgreen:
A GS thumper? Liking the sound of that...
get a katana
stupid ass
Quote from: 97gs500eget a katana
stupid ass
I would have got a Katana if the insurance was not $1100 compared to $411.
If I knew then what I know now I would have gladly paid $1100 a year for a Katana instead of my GS.
Quote from: BlazinjrQuote from: 97gs500eget a katana
stupid ass
I would have got a Katana if the insurance was not $1100 compared to $411.
If I knew then what I know now I would have gladly paid $1100 a year for a Katana instead of my GS.
lol look, stuff that you are talking about just isnt worth ... your only hope to beat the insurance system is to get a from the past 500cc two stroke racers which can whip 600s... but you will be paying out the ass for it.
I do not want to beat the insurance, I would just like to have a bike that would at least do an "actual" 100mph.
I am a drag racer at heart and have owned many, many cars, and trucks.
Quote from: BlazinjrQuote from: 97gs500eget a katana
stupid ass
I would have got a Katana if the insurance was not $1100 compared to $411.
If I knew then what I know now I would have gladly paid $1100 a year for a Katana instead of my GS.
and what you know now is... ?
edit: apparently we were typing at the same time.
The GS will do an actual 100mph, not just indicated :P Why'd you buy a 500cc parallel twin if you wanted to go fast?
Quote from: BlazinjrI do not want to beat the insurance, I would just like to have a bike that would at least do an "actual" 100mph.
I am a drag racer at heart and have owned many, many cars, and trucks.
then buy an old drag bike... insurance isnt high...
old gs1100s and such..
If you changed the engine the insurance is invalid so I don't see the point.
Quote from: ukchickenloverIf you changed the engine the insurance is invalid so I don't see the point.
Only if you tell them.
I have had a few different cars and trucks that had a motor swaps done.
88 Ford ranger 302 C4 auto. 75 mustang with roller 302 AOD then switched to 5 speed. Around where I live the only thing the insurance companies look at is if is street legal, clean/salvage title, and if it is used as a track vehicle. Some companies will not full coverage on a salvage title vehicle
As far as the drag old drag bikes go...... there plain looking. I like the flashy look of the full fairings. I was a big fan of the sport bikes back in the 80's when the Katanas, Hurricanes, FZRs, Ninjas became popular. It is the style I like.
Jazzzz The other day I was coming home from a birthday party and my wife was following me in my Neon. My Speedo said a little over 110. She said she was only going about 105 and she went around pretty quick. I felt like crap after that. She then got her car (04 Civic Ex) and set the cruise at 55, I was at 61-62 mph to pace right behind her. At her 65 mph I was well into the 70's. At that rate when I was doing 100 indicated I figure somewhere around 89-90 mph.
Before I bought the GS I was cruising this forum and everybody on here said it would be a great starter bike.
What I now know is it would be a great starter bike for someone 175 lbs or lighter. Over that weight limit a 60 to 85 hp bike would be ideal for a starter.
I don't believe the reasons given for the GS being a great starter bike have anything to do with its being able to haul around big people... heck I remember on the old beginnerbikes forums, there were posts saying how great the GS was as a starter bike for big heavy people. You're complaining that the GS won't do much over 100, and saying that you're a drag racer at heart, and that makes it a bad "starter bike?" That's kinda self-contradictory...
I also question the wisdom of talking smack about the GS on GS-oriented boards... ;)
In any event why don't you just sell the GS (it's perennially in demand) and trade up? The whole point of a starter bike is that you don't ride it forever.
why not put a body kit on a GS1100?????
now that would be diferent!!!!!
i know where one is sitting....was 2 months ago
roanoke VA....
I've got the engine from my 92 GS. 11,000 miles. Interested?
Quote from: miloI don't believe the reasons given for the GS being a great starter bike have anything to do with its being able to haul around big people... heck I remember on the old beginnerbikes forums, there were posts saying how great the GS was as a starter bike for big heavy people. You're complaining that the GS won't do much over 100, and saying that you're a drag racer at heart, and that makes it a bad "starter bike?" That's kinda self-contradictory...
I also question the wisdom of talking smack about the GS on GS-oriented boards... ;)
In any event why don't you just sell the GS (it's perennially in demand) and trade up? The whole point of a starter bike is that you don't ride it forever.
Big heavy people = :nana: blow me!.....I'm 212 now and 6 ft tall ???? Is that now considered BIG? BTW I have lost 8 lbs in a little under 2 weeks :mrgreen:
Won't do much over 100? If given enough room mine might do 100. Maybe something is wrong with mine? :dunno:
Talking smack...... I never said it was a bad starter bike for everyone, just for people over 175 lbs. For me I'm just used to faster cars( Mustangs, Firebirds, V8's and Turbo I4's) I just figured the bike would be faster? Maybe the looks of the GS F models kind of fooled me.
As far as selling my GS, nobody around here wants one, and a couple local shops will not take it in on trade because of the low demand for one and I'm not going to practically give it away.
Don't get me wrong I love the way it handles but I feel I out grown or gotten used to the bike in 5 months? Anybody else feel this way? I used to ride ATV's (ran a couple scrambles in utility class and did better than some of the sport quads) and a few dirt bikes so I was not a complete noobie when I bought the GS.
back to what this thread is suppose to be about, financially it isnt worth the time and effort to fit in a katana motor in a gs from if its doable at all...i mean it would be cheaper to bore out the lil gs and opt up for new exhaust and a sprocket swap, even that may not be financially sound, after all you are complaining about not wanting to pay the extra insurance but researching into $1000+ experiments that may not even work out... heres the key, your gs is high on insurance because its a 2004, anything older than two years has a huge comprehensive drop in price, (theft coverage) goes down, statistically newer bikes are stolen more often, so if you want a fast bike with cheaper insurance and dont even want to pay alot for the fast bike, do what I did and purchase a clean titled wrecked crotch rocket, rebuild it yourself and enjoy the cheaper insurance because its a 2003 model or below..wait long enough and you can get a 2004 supersport with cheap insurance...
Quote from: BlazinjrI do not want to beat the insurance, I would just like to have a bike that would at least do an "actual" 100mph.
I am a drag racer at heart and have owned many, many cars, and trucks.
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Quote from: BlazinjrQuote from: 97gs500eget a katana
stupid ass
I would have got a Katana if the insurance was not $1100 compared to $411.
If I knew then what I know now I would have gladly paid $1100 a year for a Katana instead of my GS.
Quote from: BlazinjrWon't do much over 100? If given enough room mine might do 100. Maybe something is wrong with mine? :dunno:
For me I'm just used to faster cars( Mustangs, Firebirds, V8's and Turbo I4's) I just figured the bike would be faster? Maybe the looks of the GS F models kind of fooled me.
You seem to know about engines and the like, more than I do anyway. So it's strange that you sound almost deceived about the GS. The specs are easily available... 37 hp, I think ~25 ft-lbs of torque, 0-60 in ~5.5 seconds, 350 lbs dry, probably about 600 lbs with you or me on it, etc. It should be pretty easy to compare the power/weight ratio to some of your cars or ATVs and guess what the performance would be like.
QuoteAs far as selling my GS, nobody around here wants one, and a couple local shops will not take it in on trade because of the low demand for one and I'm not going to practically give it away.
That sucks. Around here people seem to love the GS -- you could put it up on craigslist and get top dollar in a matter of days. But it totally depends on what the local market is like. I don't know nuthin' about selling bikes, so can't help you there...
start working on the gs engine...you can get a lot more power...i think you can bore it out to 650 cc with busa pistons...not sure though
work on the carbs, mill the head a little for more compression...port and polish...things like that
Where in Ohio are you? In Cincinnati GS's are always in demand, if you want to sell it just put an ad in Cycletrader ($60) or on the Columbus craigslist and you'll likely get an offer within a couple of days from someone who's willing to come get it.
Quote from: milo
You seem to know about engines and the like, more than I do anyway. So it's strange that you sound almost deceived about the GS. The specs are easily available... 37 hp, I think ~25 ft-lbs of torque, 0-60 in ~5.5 seconds, 350 lbs dry, probably about 600 lbs with you or me on it, etc. It should be pretty easy to compare the power/weight ratio to some of your cars or ATVs and guess what the performance would be like.
One forum says one thing and the other something else. I hear all of these hp claims then I see
this the day after I bring the GS home( yes I know another HP claim). I guess I was blinded by the good looks and a good deal.
How much $ would it take to acheive 50 hp? Reliability? Daily driver?
On a + note everybody I work with thinks it a GSXR and it will run 150 mph. :) Some of the HD guys know what it is but they don't say anything, they say at least I have a bike.
I guess I'll get it jetted and look into a little engine work after the warrenty is up. Or just keep it to drive to work and get an older bigger cc bike. Just being the way I am I always want more hp in whatever I drive. I just can't seem to get away from drag racing.
My wife and I had problems a few years ago when I used to street race with my cars. I totally gave up modding cars and went to atv's then started to modify them. Then I got my Neon and it started all over again, but no street racing :nono: . Every once in awhile Il'll go to the track or stretch her legs on a open road, but the urge at a stop light still gets me. Now I got a bike and started to get parts for it. It is an endless cycle for me.....
the only thing that makes it look like a gsxr is the headlight, your coworkers must not be avid motorcycle enthusiasts
Quote from: '04gs500fthe only thing that makes it look like a gsxr is the headlight, your coworkers must not be avid motorcycle enthusiasts
No they are not. Just the HD guys. Alot of the guys see the "suzuki" + full fairing and think of a crotch rocket. It don't look anything like a Katana so the only other full fairing Suzuki is a GSXR. Thats my guess in how their brain works. :dunno:
Quote from: GRUstart working on the gs engine...you can get a lot more power...i think you can bore it out to 650 cc with busa pistons...not sure though
work on the carbs, mill the head a little for more compression...port and polish...things like that
555 (79mm) is the largest you can go with stock sleeves. Any larger and you will have to knock out the sleeve and bore the cylinder to fit larger sleeves. The cases will need to be modded as well.
Busa pistons will not work in a GS but they will in a SV.