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Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: banner on August 11, 2005, 11:10:21 PM
Okay a few days ago i posted about having certain oil troubles and today i could smell the gas in the oil. I'm hoping its nothing but a fluke (possibly from being dropped on its side by some attentive and sober driver). Changed the oil and went for a ride.

So I took out the gs for a ride and i felt it wasn't tracking properly. So i stop a gas stationa and noticed a screw in my tire. I could hear air gently pisshing out.

So i gas station hopped until i got home.

My question is will this be repaired or will i need a new tire. If i need a new tire how much will it take for bt45's if i ride the bike into the shop(and dissasemble the wheel there myself :lol: )

:P
Title: tire
Post by: snaggers on August 11, 2005, 11:25:39 PM
Plug it dude.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: VersOne on August 11, 2005, 11:45:05 PM
If the tire is a brand new rear tire, you might consider pluging it, but you will lose the speed rating. Tire can no longer be trusted.

You only got two wheels man, anything happens to either one and it's going to suck for you.

Just order a new tire...don't settle for anything short of a bt45 or pirelli sport demon. They will try to sell you what they have in stock...probably some old dried up tire.  If you look on the sidewall there is a number that indicates the month and year the tire was made.

Rubber side down....

Jonah
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Cal Price on August 12, 2005, 12:18:05 AM
I'm with VersOne on this. If you can't afford to go for a reasonable quality replacement by all means plug it as a short term measure but only if it is central and "clean" I would not consider plugging it if it's anywhere near the sidewall. Like a lot of others I have BT45s and I am happy with them.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: davipu on August 12, 2005, 12:45:12 AM
front or rear?  HOM down in el cajone had some bt 014 fronts for 65, nobody intown carries 130 rears. so your probably best off ordering a set of avons off ebay.   although I personally recomend for the rear only a chen shin himax in a 130 90 17  from the gs resorces.com


I use Cheng Shin HiMax tires, I ride very fast and lean way over in all kinds of weather, and I've never felt there was a problem with grip in the wet or in the dry. I can get about 7,000 miles out of a set, but I usually replace them a bit sooner just because they're so inexpensive.

Opinions here on Cheng Shin tires are, shall we say, divided. All I can say is that I use 'em hard and they work great for me.

I'm saving up for a set of Dunlops, though, since everyone here swears they're The Rubber of the Gods. They don't make the GT501 in my rear tire size, so I'm looking at D491 or D404. YMMV.


my opionion; the chen shin when i had it on, it didn't matter how hard i pushed it it wanted to go further.    they run about 60 bucks, and i put 9000 miles on it before I got a cut in the sidewall, I was about halfway through the tread life.   the dunlop k491  is crap, hard as a rock. on the gs she'll brake loose shifting up into second if I get on the throttle.  feels like I'm on a ice skate  and was 116 bucks. still it's a 20,000 mile tire.

oh and if your bored I have all the tools to plug tires, i'm just out of plugs.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: banner on August 12, 2005, 01:07:17 AM
yeah its pretty much dead center and its a screw on the rear tire..

How would i plug it...i've never done it before...

Also how much does it cost to have the tire installed if i go with a new one?

I'm most probably going to just buy a new tire since its the rear and go with the bt45's..since its what i have on there right now.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Cal Price on August 12, 2005, 03:47:56 AM
Over here, I suppose it's the same in the states, you can buy a plugging kit with all you need and full instructions from dealerships or Auto-spares people. (or the on-line spares outlets) Some mechanic shops will do it for little more than the price of the kit. If you go for that option avoid the car-tyre people, go for a bike place, they make much less fuss.

Like I said, I have BT 45s on the GS but I've just ordered a Cheng Shin for the front wheel of the Yamaha. I figure it's never going to be a race bike so a "budget" will be OK.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: zukiGS500 on August 12, 2005, 12:07:03 PM
Yeah screws in the tire suck
(http://www.uwm.edu/~mpmaes/tire.jpg)
Unfortunatly there was no patching that tire.
It even took out a small chunk of the rim.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Mountaineer on August 12, 2005, 12:15:54 PM
The best way to repair a tubeless tire is to remove it, patch it from the inside with a patch over the hole. It should be good as new. But I wouldn't use a plug.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: pantablo on August 12, 2005, 01:42:41 PM
patch it. DONT plug it. some shops will patch for you, or you can buy a kit but you have to get the tire off yourself...
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Code4 on August 12, 2005, 07:44:43 PM
Plug or not to plug... If that is in the sidewall it is DONE. Don't cheap out. Get some new rubber. Don't want to lose a GS rider.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Bluebellylint on August 12, 2005, 09:56:06 PM
I think this (http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=512&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D456%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CStreet%20Tires&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D158%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CBridgestone%20Street%20Tires&mscssid=AE9838B31EA2445781267398CD1D2A3D) will be the best price you will find
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Bluebellylint on August 12, 2005, 09:56:44 PM
you need the 130/70-17 rear
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: davipu on August 12, 2005, 10:06:43 PM
and Banner if you wanted to kill tomorrow afternoon riding up to inland empire you could have it tomorrow.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Kerry on August 12, 2005, 10:20:25 PM
Check out how much cheaper the slightly taller & rounder 130/80H17 is!On the same Chaparral page (http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=512&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D456%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CStreet%20Tires&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D158%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CBridgestone%20Street%20Tires&mscssid=AE9838B31EA2445781267398CD1D2A3D)
$67.97 130/80-17

MAW (http://www.mawonline.com/bridgest.htm#Tires%20street)
(68400)     $69.95 Bridgestone BT45H 130/80H17 Rear Tire #066184 Mfg.#: 066184

American Moto Tire (http://www.americanmototire.com/index.html?lang=en-us&target=d795.html)
$69.01  BRIDGESTONE BT45 REAR 130/80H-17[/list:u]NOTE: I went this route once, figuring that I would get a slightly larger diameter, and therefore get fewer revolutions per mile and more total miles before the tire wore out.  But it didn't work out that way; the rounder profile meant that the centerline wore down more quickly than on the 130/70H17.  Too many highway miles, I guess....
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: banner on August 13, 2005, 12:30:43 AM
kerry..no problems with rubbing? with this size tire...the 80's?
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Kerry on August 13, 2005, 12:42:53 AM
No, not in a 130 width.

My first aftermarket tire was the same Cheng Shin HiMax 130/90-17 that davipu mentioned recently.  The centerline came real close to a bolt or something that protrudes a bit inside the front of the rear fender, but it didn't touch it.  That tire did rub (barely) on the brake arm thingy though.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: banner on August 13, 2005, 12:46:06 AM
how about these kerry?
130/80 17 C6002 Maxxis Rear

they are this brand:
Maxxis M6002 V-Rated Tires

http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Chaparral/product_family.asp?family%5Fid=608&gift=False&0=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D456%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D%2CStreet%20Tires&1=dept%2Easp%2Cdept%5Fid%3D163%26menu%5Fid%3D%26Tree%3D0%2CMaxxis%20Street%20Tires&mscssid=C9AF95BA666240818E7628BA36ACA9F7

60 bucks isn't too bad...especially if i can buy a did chain for 15 bucks as well.
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: Kerry on August 13, 2005, 12:58:52 AM
Well, I couldn't say for sure on a tire I haven't used myself, but I would be surprised if that tire rubbed.

Since you seem to be willing to look at tires besides Bridgestone BT45s, check out the Avons in this recent For Sale thread (http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19934) ... and then ask manofthefield what he thinks of his. :)
Title: Screw in my tire....can i repair it myself?
Post by: VersOne on August 14, 2005, 09:29:49 AM
I had a 140 sport demon rear on my GS, and beside from downshifting coming in to turns...I have never felt it lose traction...oh and maybe a few sand patches.... :mrgreen:

sticky is good...If your trying to squeeze an extra 1k miles out of them...then by all means get something harder, just don't ride it too hot.