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Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: billyblackout on August 18, 2005, 04:47:30 AM
Long story short, I took the battery out of bike (was running TIP TOP before) and hooked a new battery up. The bike sat for about a week and a half. I go to ride it, and it starts, but idles like crap. THEN i get it on the road, and it acts very sluggish.  On the highway, won't go over like 80. What's wrong? I hope it something easily fixable, as when I put it up, it was fine. HELP ME!!!!!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: red_phil on August 18, 2005, 05:15:49 AM
check both earth wires still connect to the +ve terminal on the battery.

I believe they are supposed to be wired up to one connector, but on my bike they are on 2 seperate connectors.

If the earth wire to the engine case (the thin black one) is not connected I believe you get cruddy ignition.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: hulap0pr on August 18, 2005, 06:33:26 AM
"HELP....my bike is running like carp..."
I dunno. This sounds fishy to me.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: scratch on August 18, 2005, 07:41:24 AM
Time to clean the carbs. Hopefully, running carb cleaner that you mix in with the gas will do the trick, after it has sat in the floatbowls overnight.

http://gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=185857#185857

You don't have to empty the tank, just add the PJ1, run it and let it sit overnight.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Jake D on August 18, 2005, 07:46:06 AM
When your bike runs like carp, it is time to clean the crabs.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: scratch on August 18, 2005, 07:49:23 AM
When your bike runs like carp, set the hook and reel it in slowly so as not to break the line.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ukchickenlover on August 18, 2005, 07:55:39 AM
I don't think sitting for a week and a half would give you any problems.
Are you sure you didn't leave the choke on.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: daneilah on August 18, 2005, 07:55:48 AM
.... and to think I was reluctant to chime in with the fish jokes.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 07:58:12 AM
Quote from: hulap0pr"HELP....my bike is running like carp..." I dunno. This sounds fishy to me. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Quote from: scratchWhen your bike runs like carp, set the hook and reel it in slowly so as not to break the line.

Quote from: Jake DWhen your bike runs like carp, it is time to clean the crabs.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

You guys are killin' me!!  :lol:
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ratz on August 18, 2005, 08:40:36 AM
I believe  the more demand you put on your bike, it has more to do with electrical. The carb is getting opened up more at that speed, but that carb has already been opened up if you wound it up in 2nd, or 3rd gear.
I would be very suspicious of the coils, or the coil wires.

I agree with looking into " having the choke on" or  the " ground/earth wire"

I have had a simillar problem where it started cutting out on me going down the front straight away wide open at high rpm's.
I turned out to be the coil, and wire. They get old, and the windings start to break down, or the wire starts to loosen where it meets the coil.

Now that I think of it.... the other demand you put on your bike at that speed, is the need for airflow check out the air filter, or maybe something is restricting airflow.
just my $.02.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Roadstergal on August 18, 2005, 08:54:16 AM
Quote from: Jake DWhen your bike runs like carp, it is time to clean the crabs.

Srinath will do it for you, but you have to send them COD.  Write down instructions instead of talking to him on the phone - he's hard of herring.
Title: Pathetic
Post by: The Buddha on August 18, 2005, 08:59:34 AM
Quote from: Roadstergal
Quote from: Jake DWhen your bike runs like carp, it is time to clean the crabs.

Srinath will do it for you, but you have to send them COD.  Write down instructions instead of talking to him on the phone - he's hard of herring.

If he dont have money he can get it from the loan shark, after they are fixed he can have a whale of a time, ... if he doesn't write it down I will forget ... I only have a 2 second memory ... He needs to send $$ to the Tuna-e $40 ... and yea a lobster on your piano isn't as bad as crabs on your organ ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Pathetic ... too much time on my hands ... I am packed to the gills with these ...
Now anyone actually try to help this man ... I forgot the actual problem ...
Title: Re: Pathetic
Post by: Roadstergal on August 18, 2005, 09:05:19 AM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathNow anyone actually try to help this man ... I forgot the actual problem ...

He can fix it himself, if he has the mussles.

These puns are giving me a haddock.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ratz on August 18, 2005, 09:12:15 AM
Leave him alone you bottom feaders!
Title: Oh yea
Post by: The Buddha on August 18, 2005, 09:27:02 AM
Quote from: ratzLeave him alone you bottom feaders!

Oh yea ... you'll be swimming with the fishes pal ...  :lol:
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 09:50:40 AM
I think you're all just baiting the poor guy. :P
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ratz on August 18, 2005, 10:01:18 AM
Billyblackout: one word: "edit"
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Jake D on August 18, 2005, 10:03:52 AM
It will continue to flounder until you get it fixed.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Roadstergal on August 18, 2005, 10:06:29 AM
Is there a porpoise to this discussion anymore?
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 10:11:16 AM
You're now opening a whole new can of worms....
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: davipu on August 18, 2005, 10:12:29 AM
I think I'm going to duck out of this one for the rest of the morning.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: hulap0pr on August 18, 2005, 10:39:46 AM
Water you all talking about?
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 10:51:56 AM
Why all of the sodden interest???
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Roadstergal on August 18, 2005, 10:55:21 AM
Quote from: pandyWhy all of the sodden interest???

Can't you sea?

This is turning into stream-of-consciousness.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: hulap0pr on August 18, 2005, 10:58:33 AM
I'll just go with the flow then.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 11:00:58 AM
I'm not sure how much more this thread will brook our streams of consciousness....
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: Jake D on August 18, 2005, 11:04:04 AM
I'm guessing this expidition didn't net what he was looking for.

But Pandy likes it.  This is the sort of thread that will snapper to attention!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 11:07:57 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I was beginning to think this whole thread just smelt until I realized it was just everyone's way of trawling for attention.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: hulap0pr on August 18, 2005, 11:52:52 AM
Wasting server resources with this thread is very shellfish of us. But I only come around here once in a whale anyway, so whatever..
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 18, 2005, 12:05:14 PM
That's it...It's time for me to clam up!!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: billyblackout on August 18, 2005, 05:12:00 PM
lol..very funny.  Guess my carpy crabs got caught by the inter-net.

Well, i suspected ignition, as I dont think the carbs would be the problems. Choke, throttle, everything else is okay. Here's the test I did.

-I disconnected the left plug wire with the engine running. It continued to run the same.

-I then disconnected the right plug wire with the engine running. It cut off immediately.

I then pulled the left spark plug, and it looked okay. What would be the next step? I know this narrows down something. Thanks a lot!
Title: Yup...
Post by: The Buddha on August 18, 2005, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: billyblackoutlol..very funny.  Guess my carpy crabs got caught by the inter-net.

Well, i suspected ignition, as I dont think the carbs would be the problems. Choke, throttle, everything else is okay. Here's the test I did.

-I disconnected the left plug wire with the engine running. It continued to run the same.

-I then disconnected the right plug wire with the engine running. It cut off immediately.

I then pulled the left spark plug, and it looked okay. What would be the next step? I know this narrows down something. Thanks a lot!

Left  = vacuum line ...
Left also can be aux ground ... start with checking that ... easier ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ukchickenlover on August 18, 2005, 10:14:02 PM
Get the plug lead and put in a spare spark plug. Put the thread of the spark plug against the engine to complete the circuit and start the engine to see if you get a spark. If you do try it with the other side to compare the strength of the spark.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: billyblackout on August 19, 2005, 04:21:18 PM
Yeahp....i get an equal spark on both sides. It looks kinda thin though, I'd best describe it as maybe 1/10 of the size of the spark plug element width. I don't know if it's supposed to be more....

I'm not sure what to do. I checked all my electrical connections, and those are good. All my lines are connected, I dunno why they'd free loose.

When I let the bike sit for a week and a half, the bike was running perfectly. I
hooked the brand new replacement battery back up, and there it goes....running like shaZam!.  Would sitting for a week clog the carbs or a fuel line? What other tests could I run? HELP!!!!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: natedawg120 on August 19, 2005, 04:30:40 PM
What color was the spark?  That could help tell us if it was weak or not.
Title: running like carp
Post by: snaggers on August 19, 2005, 06:48:53 PM
Check the carperators..... :lol:
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: billyblackout on August 19, 2005, 07:22:05 PM
The sparks were kinda purple/bluish, to the best of my recollection.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: pandy on August 19, 2005, 08:10:34 PM
Sooo.....as an aside, why do you need to go over 80MPH? :P
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: ktrim on August 19, 2005, 08:39:58 PM
replace your plugs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(make sure wasps didn't build a nest in your air box)
Title: Re: running like carp
Post by: ukchickenlover on August 19, 2005, 10:39:28 PM
Quote from: snaggersCheck the carperators..... :lol:

I think this has been done to death now.
Title: Re: running like carp
Post by: pandy on August 20, 2005, 11:22:47 AM
Quote from: snaggersCheck the carperators..... :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Careful....you're making some folks here crabby. :P
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: coll0412 on August 20, 2005, 07:50:45 PM
YOu know I went out and did the same on my bike, pulled the left plug, no change in the idle, pulled the left plug, wouldnt start unless I really pulled the choke. See if putting the choke on helps it when its only running on one cyinlder(ie the left cylinder), cuz if it does help we have the same problem.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: coll0412 on August 20, 2005, 07:51:16 PM
YOu know I went out and did the same on my bike, pulled the left plug, no change in the idle, pulled the left plug, wouldnt start unless I really pulled the choke. See if putting the choke on helps it when its only running on one cyinlder(ie the left cylinder), cuz if it does help we have the same problem.
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: bbanjo on August 20, 2005, 10:28:06 PM
I can do wheelies!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: billyblackout on August 25, 2005, 04:19:19 PM
OK!!!! here's the new deal

- Bike is running on 1 cylinder. The right one works ( i have a fingerprintless finger to prove that the right one DOES have heat going through it, the left one does not)

- Did spark plug test again. Spark looks fine. Switched spark plugs to other side. Still runs on right cylinder only.

- Looked at the ground wire from the battery. Checked both the fat and skinny, I see no corrosion, nor loose connections. I twisted and played with it to get it to work. Still on one cylinder.


I will be looking tonite to see if a switch of ignitor coils will change my 1 cylinder problem. Otherwise, Srinath might be getting my carbs for cleaning. I hope i can solve this problem. I WANT MY SUKI!!!!

Thanks to all!
Title: HELP....my bike is running like carp...Wont go over 80!!!!
Post by: jbeaber on August 25, 2005, 05:12:45 PM
I had the whole V-single thing going as well for a bit.  We just played with the cable to the spark plug and it fired up.  That wire may be the issue for you...
Title: Crank
Post by: The Buddha on August 25, 2005, 08:50:02 PM
Quote from: billyblackoutOK!!!! here's the new deal

- Bike is running on 1 cylinder. The right one works ( i have a fingerprintless finger to prove that the right one DOES have heat going through it, the left one does not)

- Did spark plug test again. Spark looks fine. Switched spark plugs to other side. Still runs on right cylinder only.

- Looked at the ground wire from the battery. Checked both the fat and skinny, I see no corrosion, nor loose connections. I twisted and played with it to get it to work. Still on one cylinder.


I will be looking tonite to see if a switch of ignitor coils will change my 1 cylinder problem. Otherwise, Srinath might be getting my carbs for cleaning. I hope i can solve this problem. I WANT MY SUKI!!!!

Thanks to all!

Mine did that at 35K, turned out to be the crank trigger ... runs fine for 2-3 mins and then dies on one ... swapping coils made no diff ... crank trigger ... it can get bad enough to do that right at start up.
Cool.
Srinath.