On the way to work I got behind a guy I work with and started to play around. To make a long story short I got burnt by a stock 1997 Chevy Cavalier. He pulled out to pass a car and I followed and he pulled away from me. In the corners I would catch him easily but then he would pull away again. When I got to work he asked me what happened. I lied and said one of the corners spooked me and I let up on it. Hell I was giving it all she had!
Before I get flamed and told again "with a 500 what did you expect?" Honestly I thought it would at least do what it was registered for( and not get beat by a Cavalier).
On a side note I have started selling some of the extra components to my car. I am selling the parts, the car, and my truck to buy a bigger cc bike in the spring. I am going to keep the GS though..... it will be my wife's. Sorry for the rant and I also did not have a good day at work.
first..racing cars..is just bad new...but you already know that.
second....if you really got owned by a cavalier..and were racing under say 80-90mph, then check your skills man...not the bike.
The gs requires you to be in the right gear at all time if you want to squeeze the little power it has; that means the rider need to learn how to downshit real fast to get going and not waste precious time.
but seriously I gotta say racing cars is a little squidly....
well once a guy in a riced cavalier pulled up next to me at a light and reved his engine. His GF was rolling her eyes so i new he wanted to race but i wasn't going to. When the light turned green i just buzzed off, moderatly accelerating. He kept up with me but i didn't rev at all, all below 7k. He wouldn't have stood a chance if I wanted to but i have nothing to prove to him.
I will say somehting i like to do though is when a pricy car pulls up next to me i will stay beside them if they try to race me. Just to let them know i could own them (for a little bit at least) :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: VersOnefirst..racing cars..is just bad new...but you already know that.
second....if you really got owned by a cavalier..and were racing under say 80-90mph, then check your skills man...not the bike.
The gs requires you to be in the right gear at all time if you want to squeeze the little power it has; that means the rider need to learn how to downshit real fast to get going and not waste precious time.
but seriously I gotta say racing cars is a little squidly....
80 mph + and catching up in the corners and then he would pull away coming out. I was not over reving and bogging it down either.
If it would have been a drag race I would have taken him but it wasn't. Guess I will take the car to work tomorrow and fly by him. :mrgreen:
Why is racing a car squidly? I can't race any bikes around here... they are all faster.
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Why is racing a car squidly? I can't race any bikes around here... they are all faster.
Racing on public roads = squidly
Get your testosterone out on the track and don't risk putting Joe Public in danger -- don't give me any shaZam! about the roads being empty, cap'n fast n' furious, even if there was no one else around when you're street racing you have no control over what crap might be lying in the street or what condition the road is in. On the bike you don't have a steel cage to protect you, either. What happens if the guy you're dicking around with can't drive for shaZam! and winds up side-swiping you, etc.? There's too much to go wrong, and you have a wife to go home to at the end of the day. Grow up.
I think you should stand on your seat nextime!! YeA! Then Maybee sit up on your tank and pick that front wheel up! :lol: :lol:
That will show em :guns:
See my ICON
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If handy Smurf does it... ITS FRIGGIN COOL :thumb:
I do go to the drag strip, in my car. And yes I do drag race on the street. I have ever since I got my license back in 1991.
"cap'n fast n' furious" get a life. :roll:
Are you saying that you NEVER have street raced? Not even a stop light race or an occasional run up into the triple digits? Ever get above the speed limit on the interstate or passing another vehicle?
I bet you have.
The same crap that can happen on the street can happen on a track too. Riding the same road, same track, etc is like riding around on the old fashioned cars at Kings Island.
BTW my wife is usually with me when I race and she gets mad if I lose. :mrgreen: She even bought my N2O kit for my car, for the challenged and F&F people N2O is NNNAAASSSS.... :nana:
that weird, one of my best friends owns a 2004 Z24 cav, and not once, but everytime we go at it hes not only behind, but quite a ways. One thing though, the GS doesnt have high end power. If you were to race him from a dead stop you would for sure beat him, if not, geez, getur bike looked at, lol. :cheers:
Well...with a bike...you probably won't harm other people..mostly yourself...so if your into that kinda stuff go for it.
I just think a competitive attitude on the road is dangerous.
When two cars race, the one who wins beats the other car.
When two bikes race, the one who wins fought the track harder.
If your going to push yourself...looks at whats under your rubber not what some dude and his girlfriend in a car next to you are doing.
but hey...those are just my thoughts..do as you please.
I've never seen a deer dog or cow on a race track when they were running bikes there. :roll:
Quote from: davipuI've never seen a deer dog or cow on a race track when they were running bikes there. :roll:
I seen deer at NTR back in 1997, honestly. They had to chase em around for a while. It was funny :mrgreen: .
last time I checked they didn't have dudes to chase them off the road when you were street racing.
Quote from: davipulast time I checked they didn't have dudes to chase them off the road when you were street racing.
Nope. Life is full of chances.
When it is your time to go it's your time to go. Whether it be by hitting a deer at 120 mph or walking out of your house and slipping on wet grass and getting impaled by a pink flamingo or concrete goose. ;)
Bungee jumping, rock climbing, white water rafting, parachuting, racing is all dangerous. For me It's an adreniline rush, pure and simple.
Some people drink and party thats there pleasure mine is going fast.
Quote from: BlazinjrQuote from: davipuLife is full of chances.
When it is your time to go it's your time to go. Whether it be by hitting a deer at 120 mph or walking out of your house and slipping on wet grass and getting impaled by a pink flamingo or concrete goose. ;)
This is a rediculously bad way of thinking. Sure, you could die slipping on the wet grass, but it's more likley you'll die in a motorcycle accident, and the more dangerrously you ride, the more likely you are to die that way. These are risks you can control, they're not up to fate. People just say they are to escape responsibility. It's like playing Russian roulette with 5 bullets in the gun. You could say "when it is your time to go it's your time to go" all you want, but you could still control the risk by taken 4 of the bullets out (or not playing at all).
That aside, race all you want, I don't give a shaZam!. But stop using bad logic to justify your dangerous lifestyle.
I do not race all the time. Yes, I like to drive fast but with people in car I don't. On the bike I do take it easier than the car, a lot easier.
Bad logic.
I do not call everyones' religious beleifs bad logic. Everyone is entitled to there own beleifs.
All these people on here talk about riding twisties, hanging corners, and wearing tires from bead to bead. I talk about dragracing and street racing and I am the one that is talked down to.
Well its very apparent that he wasn't riding his bike very fast at all if a cavvy owned him, lets all take a step back and laugh about that a min....
ok done laughing, now go out an ride
First you said:
Quote from: BlazinjrBTW my wife is usually with me when I race and she gets mad if I lose.
Then you said:
Quote from: BlazinjrI do not race all the time. Yes, I like to drive fast but with people in car I don't.
:?
Quote from: ConanLloydFirst you said:
Quote from: BlazinjrBTW my wife is usually with me when I race and she gets mad if I lose.
Then you said:
Quote from: BlazinjrI do not race all the time. Yes, I like to drive fast but with people in car I don't.
:?
I do not race with my kids or other people in my car. My wife trusts my driving and tells me to race if the occasion occurs.
Quote from: jordanearlWell its very apparent that he wasn't riding his bike very fast at all if a cavvy owned him, lets all take a step back and laugh about that a min....
ok done laughing, now go out an ride
running wide open in top gear and he still pulled away on a straight stretch. I can't help it if the bike will not outrun a Cav on top end. Maybe they should put pedals on the bike to make it go faster. :thumb:
Quote from: BlazinjrI do go to the drag strip, in my car. And yes I do drag race on the street. I have ever since I got my license back in 1991.
"cap'n fast n' furious" get a life. :roll:
Are you saying that you NEVER have street raced? Not even a stop light race or an occasional run up into the triple digits? Ever get above the speed limit on the interstate or passing another vehicle?
I bet you have.
The same crap that can happen on the street can happen on a track too. Riding the same road, same track, etc is like riding around on the old fashioned cars at Kings Island.
BTW my wife is usually with me when I race and she gets mad if I lose. :mrgreen: She even bought my N2O kit for my car, for the challenged and F&F people N2O is NNNAAASSSS.... :nana:
No, I never have street raced. Yes, when I first bought my Cobra I ran it up to triple digits - at Kil-Kare. I've tried autocrossing it once or twice too, which was fun (hilarious, but fun). I'm guilty of driving over the speed limit since I usually cruise at about 75, but I don't race stoplight to stoplight, and I don't respond when people rev at me or ride my ass on the highway, etc. Why? I outgrew that shaZam! about a year after I got my license. A high school friend of mine was the passenger in a street racing wreck; a buddy of his was running his Integra against a Civic on some back roads and lost it on a corner. That wreck killed the driver and broke my friends C5 vertebra among other injuries. He's never walked since. Both guys had the same "when it's your time, it's your time" attitude that you do. Had being the operative word. Yeah, shaZam! happens, bad luck, etc. My line of thinking is, if it's gonna be your time eventually, why not push it off as long as you can by being as smart as you can about your need for speed.
I have absolutely no problem with you driving as fast as you want on a track where it's meant to be done, same as I don't care if the stunter guys ride on their tanks, do wheelies or stoppies, etc. in empty parking lots instead of the middle of the highway. I do get pissed when people do that shaZam! on public roads where someone else could get hurt. It's not like track fees are that expensive - if you're dropping cash on nitrous kits and other go-fast goodies for your car, you obviously have the disposable income to afford runs at the drag strip or some track days on the bike. Join the SCCA and start auto-crossing, Neons are a great platform for it.
Here's hoping that if you do wind up in a wreck, you don't hurt anyone else :P
I do go to the dragstrip, with eats and fees $20 covers a trip[ to the National trails raceway here in Ohio on Wednesday and Fridays.
I have went and watched the autocrossing. Driving through cones in a parking lot does not look all that good to me. The road course looks good but the ones I watched you ran against the clock and rarely against other cars.
Quote from: BlazinjrOn the way to work I got behind a guy I work with and started to play around. To make a long story short I got burnt by a stock 1997 Chevy Cavalier. He pulled out to pass a car and I followed and he pulled away from me. In the corners I would catch him easily but then he would pull away again. When I got to work he asked me what happened. I lied and said one of the corners spooked me and I let up on it. Hell I was giving it all she had!
Before I get flamed and told again "with a 500 what did you expect?" Honestly I thought it would at least do what it was registered for( and not get beat by a Cavalier).
On a side note I have started selling some of the extra components to my car. I am selling the parts, the car, and my truck to buy a bigger cc bike in the spring. I am going to keep the GS though..... it will be my wife's. Sorry for the rant and I also did not have a good day at work.
Oy shut up ... I once got creamed by a giggling 12 year old chineese chick in a Ovlov ... 3 stop lights ... mostly straights ... she was looking at me and laughing the whole time ... yea ... The joke's on her ... I own a Ovlov too now and mine's uglier ... ha, that'll teach her ... :? :?
Cool.
Srinath.
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Oy shut up ... I once got creamed by a giggling 12 year old chineese chick in a Ovlov ... 3 stop lights ... mostly straights ... she was looking at me and laughing the whole time ... yea ... The joke's on her ... I own a Ovlov too now and mine's uglier ... ha, that'll teach her ... :? :?
Cool.
Srinath.
What are you talking about?
Hot rod that little Neon all you can with your wife AND kids in there, PLEASE!!!
Take yourself out of the gene pool, do us and Darwin a favor!
Seriously, how old are you? Grow some damn balls and check yourself.
You like to drive fast, and your wife calls for you to win? How about doing something a little more productive than beating 16 yr olds in their mom's Maxima/mini vans on Fri/Saturday nights.
How can auto-x not appeal to you? Oh yeah, you aren't looking for something that actually might make you a better (ie, safer) driver, you are just looking for a cheap adrenalin boost.
I don't know what fits better: :roll: or this: :x
well dude your getting bagged on cause you come off as a f%$king squid. all your right foot skills on a drag strip blaw blaw blaw. :bs: that crap any 16 year old knows how to press the gas pedal. go unfuck yourself. and come back when you figure out how to scrape pegs in 4th gear.
Maybe we could lighten up- huh?
So his attitude on the street is a little juvenile- but I don't think it's worth all the personal attacks... We all do stupid things. :dunno:
Blazin- I'm sure you can see that this board is slightly more conservative in the street racing and stunting department. Let this be a lesson to you. Remember that certain behaviours will catch up with you sooner or later in the forms of tickets, wrecks, etc..
Later.
Quote from: Jazzzzz
No, I never have street raced. Yes, when I first bought my Cobra I ran it up to triple digits - at Kil-Kare. I've tried autocrossing it once or twice too, which was fun (hilarious, but fun). I'm guilty of driving over the speed limit since I usually cruise at about 75, but I don't race stoplight to stoplight, and I don't respond when people rev at me or ride my ass on the highway, etc. Why? I outgrew that shaZam! about a year after I got my license. A high school friend of mine was the passenger in a street racing wreck; a buddy of his was running his Integra against a Civic on some back roads and lost it on a corner. That wreck killed the driver and broke my friends C5 vertebra among other injuries. He's never walked since. Both guys had the same "when it's your time, it's your time" attitude that you do. Had being the operative word. Yeah, shaZam! happens, bad luck, etc. My line of thinking is, if it's gonna be your time eventually, why not push it off as long as you can by being as smart as you can about your need for speed.
I have absolutely no problem with you driving as fast as you want on a track where it's meant to be done, same as I don't care if the stunter guys ride on their tanks, do wheelies or stoppies, etc. in empty parking lots instead of the middle of the highway. I do get pissed when people do that shaZam! on public roads where someone else could get hurt. It's not like track fees are that expensive - if you're dropping cash on nitrous kits and other go-fast goodies for your car, you obviously have the disposable income to afford runs at the drag strip or some track days on the bike. Join the SCCA and start auto-crossing, Neons are a great platform for it.
Here's hoping that if you do wind up in a wreck, you don't hurt anyone else :P
Sweet what year Cobra? I've taken mine auto-x a few times and had a blast. The oddest thing about it that, it looks completely boring, but MAN it's a blast when you actually do it. If you remain shallow minded enough to judge it by watching it from the sidelines, then I feel sorry for you.
Mk1inCali
I never race or go fast with my kids in the car. I'm 30 years old. The guys I race are not 16 year olds they are all people I grew up with and work with. We all have cars and trucks that we have built to drag race. If I go to an autoX I might learn how to dodge the grocery carts in the walmart parking lot.
davipu
You think all drag racing is using your right foot? you need to go to a drag strip, watch and learn some things. As far as scraping pegs in 4th gear that would require breaking the speed limit and the hippie squid fartknockers on here will call me capn-biker-boyz for breaking the law and being dangerous on the open roads.
leo
I have went to a couple of events with guys I met a NTR here in Columbus. They do it but still race on the street. I have watched it several times. I checked into it once and they told me I would need to take some of the stuff off my car to run or put me in a different class because my car is modified. I wanted to start at the bottom and go up and they said bring another car. I never went back.
Drag/Street racing has been around for years and will be years from now.
I didn't realize the type of people we had on here. dam...
A couple of points. First, if you got owned by a Cavalier, then you don't know how to ride your bike. A Cavalier in any trim ain't gonna hang with a GS. Hell, my car is a Saab 9-5 Aero, and my GS will hang with it at anything less than 70 or 80 mph.
Quote from: BlazinjrThe same crap that can happen on the street can happen on a track too. Riding the same road, same track, etc is like riding around on the old fashioned cars at Kings Island.
Wrong donkey. At the track you won't come across pedestrians and other drivers who don't particularly feel like being involved in your little racer boy fantasy. You really don't need us to drag out all the news stories about fools who have killed or maimed innocent bystanders while racing, do you? :dunno:
jeff
ps. you're right, this board is full of "this type of people" :cheers:
I don't race in towns, cities, populated areas.
Read the post.... 80 mph + the Cavalier beat me. Sorry getting the GS to go that fast and accelerate above the 100 mph mark does'nt happen. At least mine will not. Maybe mine is just a turd.
Has any GS hit an "actual" 120 - 130 mph?
Quote from: Blazinjr
I didn't realize the type of people we had on here. dam...
Yeah, amazing isn't it.....
Responsible people on a motorcycle board :o
AMAZING :thumb:
so for the rest of us who don't want to be impaled by your gs.... keep the racing on the tracks
Quote from: Mk1inCalibeating 16 yr olds in their mom's Maxima/mini vans on Fri/Saturday nights.
ahhhhh....don't be talking about Maxima's now (how can you even mention 4DSC in the same sentence with minivans and neons) :dunno: .....that nean can have anything short of the rocket engine and still will never come close :)
damn, that definately strikes a nerve with me :guns: .....just kidding every one is free to waste money on whatever they want, i spent my fair share on trying to make maxima handle and accelerate like a sports car :)
as far as being owned by Cavi, practice, practice practice.....but don't try to get there quicker then your abilities permit, I am sure no one wants to hear of you hurting yourself
Quote from: Slavikpractice, practice practice.....
ON A TRACK FOR CHRIST SAKE
Quote from: gazingwa[quote="Slavikpractice, practice practice.....
ON A TRACK FOR CHRIST SAKE[/quote]
+1 :thumb:
Blazinjr-
How exactly did you build your Neon to "drag race"? Slap a N20 kit on it and call it a day? If you went to an Auto-X you might learn how to do something other than hold a certain RPM off the line, shift at a certain RPM and fight torque-steer. I've been drag racing, I know what it entails, certainly not any deeper than Friday night Test-n-Tunes at Famoso, but I've made enough runs to know what you are talking about.
I'm all for speeding on the freeways, I regularly hit 85-90 while on the 5 coming/going to LA or San Diego. I know what you are saying too about doing these street drags out of most of the public's way. There is still that chance there, and you did admit to riding aggressively trying to keep up with the Cavalier??????
Oh, BTW, I'm 20...Not a hippie...I just don't want to be smashed by you or one of your 30 yr old ricer friends when you finally do make that mistake.
That's MY point. You aren't perfect, not saying I am, but I do what I can to keep my shaZam! from affecting other people's lives.
Quote from: Blazinjr
leo
I have went to a couple of events with guys I met a NTR here in Columbus. They do it but still race on the street. I have watched it several times. I checked into it once and they told me I would need to take some of the stuff off my car to run or put me in a different class because my car is modified. I wanted to start at the bottom and go up and they said bring another car. I never went back.
Drag/Street racing has been around for years and will be years from now.
I didn't realize the type of people we had on here. dam...
I highly suggest doing what you need to do to get into an event. I'm not a saint by any means, but auto-x is just pure fun and I also drag race my car (legally). I just hate working the course. Auto-x is still more of a rush. Drag racing is not as much of a rush because of the slow speeds. At least to me, the only rush is the launch on slicks and hitting the shifts. That feels real nice, but the rest of the run is just so so. It's fun because you want to improve. But auto-x feels like a car chase in the movies. I have yet to take my car open tracking and if and when I do, I'll bust a nut so hard, my windows will get covered with goo and I'll end up crashing.
Hasn't this become Tard Farm material? :dunno:
- Jordan
Quote from: Mk1inCaliBlazinjr-
How exactly did you build your Neon to "drag race"? Slap a N20 kit on it and call it a day?
2.0 DOHC 5 speed manual with all interior intact
BM shifter w/ SRT4 shift knob w/Booger bushings
Prothane MM inserts and suspension bushings
Strut tower braces front & rear
ported intake w/56mm TB
3 inch CAI with filter
EGR removed
polution equipment removed
Kirk long tube header
2.5 Dynomax piping
2.5 Dynomax bullet muffler
Aspec SS muffler
Mopar PCM/ switching back to a 98 R/T PCM for N20
MPX UDP
NGK plugs Accel wires
KYB struts
Mopar Performance X-high rate springs
Neon R/T sway bars front and rear.
Nitrous Express Mainline kit 50-75 hp jetting
MSD rpm window switch
I have a few more extras(purge kit, blowdown tube, extra jets) for the N2O kit and having it Dyno tuned this winter or spring. I have used it a couple times but not at the track.
This spring I am planning a new clutch and a phantom grip to be installed and a investment in a set of drag radials.
I race cars on the street sometimes and i dont care what you guys say, sometimes it just has to be done. I am 19 years old, i am young, and i find it fun, sure i can get hurt but its a risk i take. You guys who say racing is bad and all that crap, like you guys never raced anyone 20 years ago when you guys were my age. Lighten up on the guy. Let him do what he wants. :x
QuoteWhen it is your time to go it's your time to go.
And when it's your time to have a traumatic brain injury and spend the rest of your life unable to figure out how to boil a pot of water, then its your time. When it's your time to sever your spinal cord and spend the rest of your life getting air and nourishment through tubes, it's your time.
Or when it's your family's time to be without a husband, father, son and brother for the rest of their lives, it's their time.
Think about it before you try to prove you're faster than a Chevy.
Blazin...looks like a prime suspect for an auto-x...
Quote from: Mk1inCaliBlazin...looks like a prime suspect for an auto-x...
All the different guys I talk to say it is better to start off in the Stock class. I do not want to put the car back to stock condition to do that then put everything back on it to run at the dragstrip. All I would get done is switching back and forth.
stefman722,
I agree but I do watch when and where I do it.
Most of the guys I run with do not have subcompacts and imports and are not ricers. Most are GM RWD cars and trucks and a few Ford Mustangs
"ricer" has no connection with owning import car......however it has lots of correlation with putting bunch of stickers and a fart pipe on any economy car or a truck, and rev at every sports car at the stop light
I do agree that drag racing is a sport, but just like you don't put pads on and challange every passer buyer to a tackling drill, you don't race people off the stop lights.....two d###heads on rx8's racing almost killed a rider not too far from where i live, when a speed limit is 40, any one who is doing 120 is endangaring MY life needlessly.
$20 bucks for a few hours at the track isn't that bad, killing some one because you want to show off in front of some dude in Cavalier is
(out of all cars what a great race oponent, whats next, power wheel chairs?)......
Quote from: Slavik
$20 bucks for a few hours at the track isn't that bad, killing some one because you want to show off in front of some dude in Cavalier is
(out of all cars what a great race oponent, whats next, power wheel chairs?)......
I was not showing off. I got behind him on the way to work and he passed a car and I followed him and he pulled away from me. I would catch him through the corners then he would pull away from me again. He accelerated faster than me above 85 mph. That is what I stated before. It was not a drag race from a dead stop. It was from 80 mph and above.
Quote2.0 DOHC 5 speed manual with all interior intact
BM shifter w/ SRT.....
He is throwing money at the wrong platform... Seriously... what you need is a blown Busa! That'll show them! :lol: :lol: :lol:
And then aim for a tree: 200 - 0 in half a second - best adrenaline rush is right before you die. That'll teach them! :roll:
Quote from: BlazinjrHe accelerated faster than me above 85 mph.
As stated earlier... you were going 85 why? sounds like you werent' on the expressway. I don't like the idea that there are people like you gambling with other peoples lives. :bs:
Quote from: gazingwaQuote from: BlazinjrHe accelerated faster than me above 85 mph.
As stated earlier... you were going 85 why? sounds like you werent' on the expressway. I don't like the idea that there are people like you gambling with other peoples lives. :bs:
yup definately agree with gazingwa here......
also, gs will never be able to race anything at 85 mph plus, if thats the speeds you were traveling at, you'll almost guaranteed a loss.....I think any car on the road has top speed over 105, so you are SOL in the top speed runs. at the same time, you can beat most of the cars from 0 to 60 off the stop light, so there is no need to race then either :)
Actually from the description (passing someone going 85) it sounds like he way on the highway.
If that Cavalier was a 5-speed then yeah I could see it beating a GS at those speeds. On the other hand I think that a GS (my GS anyway :P ) will beat a compact car with an automatic transmission at just about any speed... my parents' old Corolla was a 4-speed automatic, it would top out at ~100mph, just like the GS.
Man, you need to put a 15 tooth sprocket in there... it's like $20 and 20 minutes to install... instant torque boost and some have said it helps rather than hurts the top end.
Then again, maybe I shouldn't be encouraging you to go faster... :nono:
I wish there was a track or place locally that you could do top speed tests on vehicles. Too bad I don't live near the Salt flats, that would be awesome.
I think I am going to take milos advice and get the 15 tooth sprocket get it jetted and get a better filter.
Although I am still considering getting another bigger bike, and I think I may have decided what it is.
I have a71 Buick GS convertible. Its a muscle car. I am 29. I will light up the tires (not so much anymore as 20" tires cost too much!) occasioanlly when no one is around or at the cruise spot where it is expected and accepted and people don't get in the way. Race a bike on the street? are you friggin nutz? nothing is dumber. 4 people were killed recently here in Oklahoma when a drunk driver crossed the median and hit 3 bikers. both car occupants were killed and 2 bikers were killed. A bike hitting a car can kill the car occupant. lay your bike down and get run over? if your 30, its time to get some brains. Just don't do stupid shaZam!. I drive fast on the highway, pop the tripples occasionally, only if I'm alone and the road is desolate.
two weeks ago i leaned my lesson up agiast a zx 600rr spanked him to third gear then he went bye with his wheel in the air and his middle fingure in my face then at 100 my rod expoded in half and the motor locked up what a ride now i need a new motor wich sucks royal nutz :nana: