Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: EDub on August 24, 2005, 09:04:20 AM
Post by: EDub on August 24, 2005, 09:04:20 AM
I've recently found that i really like the hard deceleration recieved when you set your idle to zero. Sort of a pain keeping the throttle open using your hand during warmups and at stop lights but you get used to that. Has anyone else tried this? My main concern is are there any long term ill effects from doing this?
Thx,
Kevin
Thx,
Kevin
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Chuck on August 24, 2005, 09:16:05 AM
Post by: Chuck on August 24, 2005, 09:16:05 AM
I'm still a noob, but I tend to stay away from using my rear tire for "hard deceleration." I've had it slip from aggressively downshifting, or from using just a touch too much rear brake.
Anyway, setting your idle to zero just sounds crazy to me. I find it convenient that the engine stays running on its own, with no help from me. But that's just me.
Anyway, setting your idle to zero just sounds crazy to me. I find it convenient that the engine stays running on its own, with no help from me. But that's just me.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Roadstergal on August 24, 2005, 09:17:55 AM
Post by: Roadstergal on August 24, 2005, 09:17:55 AM
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Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Recreational_Anxiety on August 24, 2005, 09:26:32 AM
Post by: Recreational_Anxiety on August 24, 2005, 09:26:32 AM
My idle is at zero most of the time... until I start the bike. As for hard deceleration, the brakes work great. :thumb:
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: pantablo on August 24, 2005, 10:37:05 AM
Post by: pantablo on August 24, 2005, 10:37:05 AM
why complicate your life with needing to keep the idle up at lights? What if you need to ever grab a handful of brake in emergency situation? Then bike dies. One less thing you should not have to worry about.
Stop doing it.
Stop doing it.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: pantablo on August 24, 2005, 10:37:55 AM
Post by: pantablo on August 24, 2005, 10:37:55 AM
oh yeah, if you like that kind of deceleration (called engine braking) you'll like liter vtwins when you move up from the gs500. they have LOADS of engine braking.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: scratch on August 24, 2005, 12:24:41 PM
Post by: scratch on August 24, 2005, 12:24:41 PM
Quote from: Roadstergal
+1 :?
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: EDub on August 24, 2005, 03:00:18 PM
Post by: EDub on August 24, 2005, 03:00:18 PM
well i like it anyway :lol: and thats the way i aim to keep it!
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Jake D on August 24, 2005, 03:14:03 PM
Post by: Jake D on August 24, 2005, 03:14:03 PM
With such a low idle, you may suffer from slightly lower oil presure. But it is your bike, dude.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Blazinjr on August 25, 2005, 06:44:51 AM
Post by: Blazinjr on August 25, 2005, 06:44:51 AM
A lot harder on any engine being ran at lower than recomended RPM. Those RPMs are recomended for other reasons too. It is called proper oil pressure. You might get some mechanical problems on down the road.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Jake D on August 25, 2005, 07:19:52 AM
Post by: Jake D on August 25, 2005, 07:19:52 AM
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Title: Down shift
Post by: The Buddha on August 25, 2005, 11:23:40 AM
Post by: The Buddha on August 25, 2005, 11:23:40 AM
What ... now you're too lazy to down shift ... :? ... That's the right way to do it ...
Cool.
Srinath.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: EDub on August 25, 2005, 01:37:57 PM
Post by: EDub on August 25, 2005, 01:37:57 PM
my rpms dont go to low i keep them at about 1200-1500 with the throttle when i stop.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: ajgs500 on August 25, 2005, 02:04:05 PM
Post by: ajgs500 on August 25, 2005, 02:04:05 PM
This kind of seems unsafe and a huge pain in the a**
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Blueknyt on August 25, 2005, 02:36:06 PM
Post by: Blueknyt on August 25, 2005, 02:36:06 PM
no factory i know of sets a bike idle (electric drives not included) to die at closed throttle. your bike dude.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: ratz on August 25, 2005, 02:55:18 PM
Post by: ratz on August 25, 2005, 02:55:18 PM
Engine/ compression breaking is hard on your valves = bad for the engine.
New brake pads = $20 - $45
Top end rebuild replace valves(considering you haven't sucked a valve into your cylinder), = $500 - $700
New engine = $600- $1200.
Learning from it all = priceless!
It is not a 2-stroke stop using the engines compression to slow you down.
As for the idle, it would suck to be at a light, and you miss a rev, and it stalls just as the light turns green, everyone takes off except you... ouch.
New brake pads = $20 - $45
Top end rebuild replace valves(considering you haven't sucked a valve into your cylinder), = $500 - $700
New engine = $600- $1200.
Learning from it all = priceless!
It is not a 2-stroke stop using the engines compression to slow you down.
As for the idle, it would suck to be at a light, and you miss a rev, and it stalls just as the light turns green, everyone takes off except you... ouch.
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Jake D on August 25, 2005, 02:59:38 PM
Post by: Jake D on August 25, 2005, 02:59:38 PM
ratz won trophies. I'd take his advice. :thumb:
"You should listen to your friend Billy Zane. He's a cool dude." ~ Hansel
"You should listen to your friend Billy Zane. He's a cool dude." ~ Hansel
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 25, 2005, 03:10:42 PM
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 25, 2005, 03:10:42 PM
No engine braking? Oh crap, we had this debate yesterday... :o
D :cheers:
D :cheers:
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: Chuck on August 25, 2005, 05:24:38 PM
Post by: Chuck on August 25, 2005, 05:24:38 PM
Hah! I like my brake-braking any-dang-way. At least until they come up with front wheel drive!
Title: Deceleration Vs. Idle
Post by: scottpA_GS on August 25, 2005, 05:44:46 PM
Post by: scottpA_GS on August 25, 2005, 05:44:46 PM
Quote from: ChuckAt least until they come up with front wheel drive!
Who'da thought! All-wheel drive - for a motorcycle!
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