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Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 10:41:15 AM
I wonder if this would be worth anything. There's a '92 GSX-R motor on CL for under $1K. Hmmm

Bandit: http://portland.craigslist.org/mcy/94195937.html

GSX-R: http://portland.craigslist.org/mcy/94315901.html

Just curious (I'm not really rolling in extra cash right now)...could that be used to make a good bike? It could be a fun winter project. Or a huge disaster.

D  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 11:11:04 AM
Actually, in that second link (for the Gixxer parts), there's a Yosh for $100 OBO. Should I offer him $80 for it if it's in good shape?

http://portland.craigslist.org/mcy/94315901.html

By the way, no snipers on this if it is good; I have super-secret dibs!  ;)

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 11:34:27 AM
OK, I got this pic of the exhaust. Should I pick it up, and at what price?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/all_out_of_gum/bike4.jpg)

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 12:03:07 PM
Oh, and he is going to cut off a part of the stock pipe, which may come in handy. Anyone got an idea on this? I'd love to get it for a winter project when i have money for a flange and rejet.

Under $100 for a Yosh with part of a stock Gixxer Sixxer pipe sounds pretty good time me. Srinath, Pantablo, Kerry...anyone: Should I pursue?  :dunno:

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: Kerry on August 30, 2005, 12:42:48 PM
My bike is still stock, except for a drop-in K&N air filter, so I have no aftermarket exhaust experience at all.

Anyone?
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 01:28:30 PM
I'm shocked at the lack of responses to this post. So NOBODY knows if I should buy this for $90 and have it welded on at a shop? Not to be a noob and keep bumping, but I really am curious what the pros here think.

dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: davipu on August 30, 2005, 01:52:23 PM
yep you shure should
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 01:54:00 PM
You serious or drunk?  ;) If the latter, then lucky you. 2 more hours til freedom...

So pick it up for $90 then? He's waiting on me. I am leaning towards yes.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: davipu on August 30, 2005, 01:56:24 PM
no i'm soberish. go get it and get a stock headder from someone off here and have a shop weld them together, and you could probably turn around and get 200 for the full thing.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 01:59:46 PM
Or I could get a nice aftermarket exhaust for a little over $100...

Just an idea.

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on August 30, 2005, 04:07:01 PM
OOOPPS posted in another thread an answer to this.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on August 30, 2005, 04:59:15 PM
Dave, that pipe in the picture is riveted or screwed to the "feed" pipe.  So the feed is probably mild steel with an aluminum "can".
Title: Fit
Post by: The Buddha on August 30, 2005, 05:20:32 PM
Fitting it is easy. ID of that pipe can be spread to slide on your header if its too small, or your pipe can be spread to fit tight inside it ... if its too large ... 2 mins, I would be able to have any muffler place do it for under $10. YMMV.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Re: Fit
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 07:08:27 PM
Quote from: seshadri_srinathFitting it is easy. ID of that pipe can be spread to slide on your header if its too small, or your pipe can be spread to fit tight inside it ... if its too large ... 2 mins, I would be able to have any muffler place do it for under $10. YMMV.
Cool.
Srinath.

Sorry, a few questions in regards to that post. First, are you saying that I should indeed get it for $90? Second, is the ID the Intake Diameter?    :dunno: I have no idea. Third, are you saying I may be able to do it with no welding? Does that affect the performance at all?

Oh, and YMMV? I'm not familiar with that one.

Thanks guys,

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: V8Pinto on August 30, 2005, 07:20:55 PM
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

$90 is ok.  If you're going to have a shop weld it up for you be sure to figure that expense in.  

Instead you should purchase my Supertrapp exhaust for $200  :)
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 08:11:18 PM
Full system or just a can?
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 08:21:38 PM
Quote from: V8PintoYMMV = Your Mileage May Vary

$90 is ok.  If you're going to have a shop weld it up for you be sure to figure that expense in.  

Instead you should purchase my Supertrapp exhaust for $200  :)

That brings up a good point. Would it be wiser to buy the Gixxer can for $90, buy the Supertrapp fpr $200 (assuimng it's a full system), or just wait. I do not mind waiting.

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: The Antibody on August 30, 2005, 08:56:14 PM
Make a decision. You're like my girlfriend... haha

Do what YOU feel is what YOU want to do. If YOU think it is a good price then thats all that matters. If you are hell bent on getting a gixxer exhaust, then that is a good option. You'll have to get the can and check the diameter of the pipe, or ask him. Then go from there. Or make it all easy and get a Vance & Hines.

 -Anti  8)
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 30, 2005, 09:05:41 PM
Yeah, I have been known to get extreme cases of buyer's remorse. I hate thinking I am getting a good deal and then finding out I was wrong. But who doesn't?  :dunno:

I'll pass and just get one later. shaZam!, I got a ticket for doing 65 in a 60 this morning, so I can use the money for that.  ;)

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: average on August 31, 2005, 01:18:02 AM
The exhaust? Sh#t, get the whole bike! I was looking for one of those about 3 years ago.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on August 31, 2005, 04:27:40 AM
They have supper traps for these bikes?  I would think tunable would be better, but I've never touched one of these bike either.  

65 in a 60, speedo error, radar calibration, got the wrong vehicle.  They don't even think about giving a ticket like that here.  Sounds like you need to get some gift certificates to dunkin doughnuts. :)  :)
Title: Interesting...
Post by: V8Pinto on August 31, 2005, 07:33:23 AM
I make GS exhausts as a side hobby.  Right now I have two done.  One is a Supertrapp slip on with the stock GS header.  I run it open (no disks) with a K&N and dialed in carbs.  I also made up a Wileyco using my own flange and the exhaust retains the stock center stand bumper.  IMO (in my opinion) the Supertrapp sounds better than the Wileyco but it's also really loud whereas the Wileyco is neighbor-safe.  There's also some flow to be found with a die grinder in the stock header.

Did you buy the guy's Yosh or pass on it?
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 31, 2005, 07:46:50 AM
I'm gonna pass. I have to focus on selling my car and crap, and it would just sit if I bought it now. I may be contacting you, Senor Pinto, in the near future for a new exhaust. By the way, if either of them sound like a fart can from a riced-out Civic, I'll pass  ;)

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 31, 2005, 08:18:36 AM
Quote from: jimbo165 in a 60, speedo error, radar calibration, got the wrong vehicle.  They don't even think about giving a ticket like that here.  Sounds like you need to get some gift certificates to dunkin doughnuts. :)  :)

I'm sitting down to decide what I want to plead when I send in the ticket. OK, here's the deal: I was going 71, and he said that, but he ticketed me at 65. Which is nice, but a warning would have been nicer. So I was speeding, we both know that. However, it was only to pass, as I was cruising at 65 before and after the pass. So, my options are to either plead guilty but get a chance to explain myself, which could lead to getting the fine reduced; or tempt the hands of fate and plead not guilty, where I have a hearing and request the officer to attend. I could fight it and pray that he doesn't show up or shows up without sufficient evidence. What do I do.

His setup was like this: he was a biker cop standing behind his bike with no gun. There was a cop car behind him that may or may not have had the gun and then told the biker farktard who to pull over. I have no idea how he determined I was speeding (I have a big mouth, so I kept it shut there in order to not double my ticket). So what do you guys think? Fight it full-on or admit guilt but try to talk it down?  :dunno:

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: V8Pinto on August 31, 2005, 09:46:21 AM
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXI'm gonna pass. I have to focus on selling my car and crap, and it would just sit if I bought it now. I may be contacting you, Senor Pinto, in the near future for a new exhaust. By the way, if either of them sound like a fart can from a riced-out Civic, I'll pass  ;)

Dave  :cheers:

Do a search on here for the sound bytes.  The GS sounds like a bada$$ big twin if you put a good exhaust on it.  Mine turns heads wherever I go.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on August 31, 2005, 11:58:54 AM
OK, so far I have 0 votes for admit guilt and try getting the fine reduced and 0 for pleading not guilty and praying for a miracle.

Close race!

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: Church6360 on August 31, 2005, 02:44:18 PM
get any pipe, for any reason, and make it fit.
(http://www.leehelzer.com/church6360/side.JPG)
Title: Interesting...
Post by: RVertigo on August 31, 2005, 03:46:47 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: Toledo Jim on August 31, 2005, 10:25:51 PM
ya did the "crime", now pay the fine :lol: ,
Really, your not likel'y to get it reduced unless you REALLY want to fight it all out with a lawyer and all that goes with that, contesting the calibration of the radar, training of the officer, subpoenas for a number of previous citations and all kinds of other things. Not usually worth it IMHO.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: RVertigo on September 01, 2005, 10:57:26 AM
I don't know the laws in OR-EEEEE-GONE, but in WA you can get the fine reduced really easily...

In fact...  They have a deal here where you can get the ticket removed from your record if you pay a fine and don't get another ticket within a year.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 01, 2005, 11:09:57 AM
Quote from: RVertigoI don't know the laws in OR-EEEEE-GONE, but in WA you can get the fine reduced really easily...

In fact...  They have a deal here where you can get the ticket removed from your record if you pay a fine and don't get another ticket within a year.

I got it in the 'Couv. I wasn't offered that option. However, I had a ticket last New Year's Eve and took a class and had it removed. I wonder if I'm out of luck this time; the prior ticket was in Hills-Barrio, so maybe I am out of their jurisdiction. Who knows. I may just contest that I was only passing and had the CC on between 60-65 right before and after the pass. I'll pray that officer Fark Face doesn't show, and hopefully get off Scot-free. Hmmm... :dunno:

Dave
Title: Interesting...
Post by: RVertigo on September 01, 2005, 11:48:19 AM
It's a gamble to get the cop to come in...

Have you talked to a traffic lawyer?  It might be worth the money.  A friend of mine has an M3 and doesn't know how to drive slow.  He's had about 10 tickets taken care of by his lawyer. :dunno:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 01, 2005, 12:03:37 PM
Quote from: RVertigoIt's a gamble to get the cop to come in...

Have you talked to a traffic lawyer?  It might be worth the money.  A friend of mine has an M3 and doesn't know how to drive slow.  He's had about 10 tickets taken care of by his lawyer. :dunno:

The ticket's only $71 and it'll be my first ding on my driving record, so I'm not so sure that the expense of a lawyer would be worth it. How much could that possibly be?

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: RVertigo on September 01, 2005, 01:50:04 PM
I dunno... Not much i think.

But, it's not the cost of the ticket, it's the cost of the insurance increase.

If it won't change your insurance, then just pay it and watch your speed a little more.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on September 01, 2005, 07:17:55 PM
You are going to have a hard time beating that.  I had a lawyer bring his computer into my shop awhile back & he said he would rather defend a murder case than try to defend in traffic.  Most cops write far more speeding tickets than murder arrests, they are REALLY good at getting everything right to get a conviction in traffic.  But if you got money to burn :mrgreen:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 02, 2005, 08:07:59 AM
I think I'm just gonna plead not guilty and explain that I was passing, and only at that time was I possibly going over the speed limit. The worst they can do is deny me and keep the fine at $71, right?

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on September 02, 2005, 08:34:08 AM
Mabe he'll let you go to driving school, they wouldn't even let me do that last time, so I paid the fine.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: aevans17 on September 02, 2005, 09:13:24 AM
If you already got 1 free be last year then you can't get another one for 7 years. The rule is they will suspend the ticket for 1 calendar year and if you don't get anymore tickets in that time then the 1st ticket goes off your record. However, if you do get a ticket then it goes back on. Also you are not eligible for the same process for 7 years. I would suggest admitting guilt and then going to talk to a judge. Around here that means that you go see some judge for 5 seconds and they usually just cut your fine in half no matter what. The last time I went the judge was in this tinny room sitting behind a school desk. I sat in a another school desk in front of her and she talked to me for 2 minutes tops. She told me to slow down and reduced the fine by 1/2.
If you go to court and say that you had CC set between 60-65 and admit that you sped up to pass then you are admitting to speeding and the judge will probablly say that you are guilty. Also check your ticket to see if the officer wrote your actual speed, but only changed the fine to $71 which is the penalty for 5 over. Sometimes cops write the tickets so that it shows exactly what you were going even though they reduced the fine. If this is the case, then you will have less of a chance of beating a conviction because the judge will see that you were going 11 over and not 5. If not then you have a great chance of winning because 5 over is nothing. Then the speeding up to pass story sounds a whole lot better.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 02, 2005, 09:37:03 AM
Here is a scan of it:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v604/all_out_of_gum/SpeedingTicket.jpg)

By the way, below the vehicle speed, there are the following notations (I have no idea what they mean...)

L 1313
L 3
D 1297
S 73
Title: Cops
Post by: The Buddha on September 02, 2005, 09:51:04 AM
OK Cop not comming in - yea not likely at all. The court date is for when he will be there. Every ticket he issues that day and for a few days before and after, have that same court date. Ask for postponing it and they will give you another specific date. try to move it 1-2 days and you'll know its impossible. BTW the preliminary hearings are always on friday around here. No cops need to be there, The ADA's will plead you out and they dont care about the fine, Fines will drop from 75 or 50 to 25 easy. They are after collecting that $100 "Court Costs" ... Total scam to line their county's coffers.
Cool.
Srinath.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 02, 2005, 09:55:56 AM
So...I do what now? Plead not guilty? Move the date? Take a nap?
Title: Interesting...
Post by: Whatever6060 on September 02, 2005, 10:12:17 AM
Just go to the court hearing.  Many judges will give you an option to explain yourself.  Tell him the passing story then represent yourself as an outstanding citizen.  Wear a suit, tell him your a honor student, involved in the community........anything that would make you look good.  If it's your first offense you would at least definately get off no points
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 02, 2005, 10:15:22 AM
True. But I am not sure if I plead guilty and explain or not guilty and explain. Don't wanna shoot myself in the foot by doing the wrong thing.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on September 02, 2005, 10:22:33 AM
Go to court, explain situation.  Don't say not guilty, just explain how it was a bad day dog got run over before work.  Then late to work, but still maintained just 5 over so you wouldn't lose your job and your 10 kids would go hungry.  Passed someone, but didn't want to stay in an oncomming lane to long and be unsafe.   Mabe by then the judge will just drop it to shut you up.  Or you could just cry, it works for my wife.

Seriously, no one from another locality can tell what a judge will do in your location, it is all at the judge's discretion.  But do go to court, that will usually lower the fine.  I always go if it is in my location, if away from home I send the payment in.  I only had one judge give me full fine, because I commented on him having the same last name as me.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 02, 2005, 10:36:55 AM
Right, that's a good plan. HOWEVER, I have to check one of 3 boxes on the back of the ticket now. I can choose to:

Pay fine, no court (no)
Admit guilt, have court and maybe lower ticket
Admit no guilt, have hearing to determine if I am at fault or not

See what I mean. I HAVE TO choose one. That's where I'm going with this. Either option 2 or 3.  :dunno:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: pandy on September 02, 2005, 10:45:24 AM
In your position, I'd choose option three if I were planning to go to court. When you're not admitting guilt, you aren't saying you're innocent. You're simply saying that you're not admitting anything, and you want to talk to the judge! Good luck!  :thumb:
Title: Interesting...
Post by: Whatever6060 on September 02, 2005, 11:03:33 AM
I'd say three............so you can see if the cop shows up or not.  Then if he does say that you were confused about it what to write on the ticket.  I believe they give you a chance to change your plea when you get there anyway.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: RVertigo on September 02, 2005, 11:25:44 AM
Dude....  You have to figure out what each option means for you.

1. Pay the ticket and move on.
Title: Interesting...
Post by: jimbo1 on September 02, 2005, 11:31:33 AM
Dave, Just cry and get it over with already :)  :)  :)
Title: NC
Post by: The Buddha on September 02, 2005, 12:29:20 PM
OK if you go to court, I think that last time in front of judge they will ask you guilty or not, you'd ahve to choose, you'r explainations come later, if you say not guilty in NC its hearing at that point, if you say guilty, the judge will let you explain and may reduce the fine etc, BTW if you chose not guilty its hearing and they will hit you with a extra $500 court fee. If you chose guilty, usually the judge will knock it down to what the ADA offered you earlier. IMHO total waste of time, its a collection machine, it works well. If you have a really really really good case, no crying no judge might believe me, no nothing, then take it to trial. Else just plead down to what the ADA offers you. Easier and better that way. 65 in a 60 may be knocked down to 60 in a 60 ... so like WTF ... it cant be even a ticket. people get 30 over the limit and get reduced to 15 over ... under 15 they usually dont write tix ... so you're already in the WTF zone.
Cool.
Srinath.