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took my gs to the streetrider track we have here at boundary bay and had a blast!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/trackday.jpg)

and i ended it with a bang!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/crash.jpg)

checking out the damage - luckily i'd already taken off my mirrors.  barend, clutch lever and other scuffs but otherwise fine.  i was told that my bike crashes well, lol, the advantages of being naked!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/checkbike.jpg)

OUCH!
I assume that's you standing behind your bike in the last pic. Glad your okay. So did your buddies analyze why you ...ahmm ...had the little booboo? ;) Just like to know for my own benefit.
Dandy D

yea, that tiny thing is me in the red and black.  this was my first time ever at the track.  was doing fine all day til the last round.  not too sure what happened - not enough throttle, not hanging off enough, need stickier tires... :dunno:

going back again this thursday - lots to learn!

Boundary Bay!  I did an automobile skills day there.  :)  Cool of you to get out and do that!  
But it should be the job of the instructors to give you feedback on what happened, or you don't get to learn from the experience.  They should leave you with more than "not too sure."

Well, I'm certainly glad you're unharmed; injuries on top of crash-damage SUCK! Now, I'd like to know if you were doing low-speed drills, high-speed drills, or something else entirely. It LOOKS as if you were NOT moving very quickly; the lack of any serious damage seems to prove that.

Please let us know more specific details, so we can help you analyze this and understand what you might have done wrong. About how fast were you moving? What was the objective you were trying to accomplish when you low-sided?

If you were practicing counter-steering (can't really tell from the first photo, though the front tire DOES look SLIGHTLY offset to the RIGHT, which would indicate that you were counter-steering to go LEFT, and you're LEANING to the left), I'd have to guess that you were going too SLOWLY to counter-steer, and you SHOULD have been counter-BALANCING the motorcycle instead. I just can't analyze this any further without more information from you; I certainly don't want to spend a lot of time typing advice based on a HUNCH about what you were doing.

I'll try to watch for your reply; you seem to have some real skills, but right now, we need more information from you before we can help you understand what went wrong, and how to avoid making the same mistake in the future. Dropping it / low-siding in an empty parking lot or on a riding range is one thing, but if you do this in heavy or fast-moving traffic...

You look too young to become just another statistic, so let us help you become a full-fledged GS Wrangler. From what I can see in the first photo, your riding posture looks EXCELLENT; obviously, you've already got more than a few miles in the saddle of a motorcycle, but you might not have been focusing on skill-development as much as on simply enjoying riding (been there, done that, got the scars to prove it). Fill in the blanks; give us some details on what you were doing or TRYING to do, and we'll work forward from there.

I think it is cool that you got a picture of your low side!  

Also, was it you knocking over all those cones?   :lol:

I hope to try something like that soon, but I better get some leathers!

Hmm,  do you think its possible to fall in love with a GSTwin'er that you've never met (but seen in pictures of her lowside) ? ;-)  :kiss:

Vancouver is kind of far from Atlanta, though   :dunno:

C'est la vie

it's just a little farther than from here to seattle. :mrgreen:

Quote from: TarzanBoyHmm,  do you think its possible to fall in love with a GSTwin'er that you've never met (but seen in pictures of her lowside) ? ;-)  :kiss:

only the dorks can  :roll:

tab,
From the first picture it looks like you've got the gs pretty cranked over. Good form for a first timer. Glad you were unhurt-the track is where you want to push the limits and where you can safely crash like you did. Try to learn from your crash.

congratulations on your first time out. Just wait till you get on a proper track! :thumb:

Quote from: davipuit's just a little farther than from here to seattle. :mrgreen:

Yeah, and look where that got you.   :P

WOOHOO! That look's like fun! Sorry to hear about the crash, but I'm glad you're allright, too! It looks like you have good form, if I was going to nitpick about anything, it would be maybe to hunker down, and kinda 'hang' or 'suspend' your upper body, like the nape of the back of your neck was being suspended by a string.

The bike looks good (maybe it's the fact that it's an '89, or the black front fender)!

The first picture made me feel like a total sissy...  Then the second picture made me glad I'm a sissy. :lol:   Ever time I corner hard I picture that happening... :oops:

Glad you're ok...  No leg issues?  Looks pretty mashed under there.

WoooHooooo!!! Great pics! It looks as though you're practicing flying here! You just haven't done the take-off yet!!  :mrgreen:

Congrats on your great track day and coming through your little lowside in one piece!!!  :thumb:

P.S. Does anyone else think that drooler sounds a LOT like the scarce-of-late Hugh? :P

Quote from: tab
and i ended it with a bang!

Quote from: JetSwing

Quote from: TarzanBoyHmm,  do you think its possible to fall in love with a GSTwin'er that you've never met (but seen in pictures of her lowside) ? ;-)  :kiss:

only the dorks can  :roll:

Hmm, if it makes me a dork, then I'll gladly endure being one in this case :mrgreen: .  Tab rocks, and I'm her number one fan! ;)  Tab, let me know if you ever make it down around Georgia and we'll ride!

As an aside, i've never taken my bike to a track but I'm inclined to think that i've leaned my GS over that far on a few turns (the first pic, not the lowside).  I'm a new rider myself, so i'm interested in what led up to the bike going down.  I'd probably enjoy going to a track, but i'd have to (begrudgingly) remove the fairings first and attach the engine guards

Sorry about the crash, but glad that you're ok and that you had fun... and very pleased to (sort of) meet you.  What kind of street riding course/program was in that you were involved in?

-kevin

Quote from: TarzanBoyI'm inclined to think that i've leaned my GS over that far on a few turns

It's easy to tell...  Just look at your tire wear.

Quote from: RVertigo

Quote from: TarzanBoyI'm inclined to think that i've leaned my GS over that far on a few turns

It's easy to tell...  Just look at your tire wear.

It's easy to tell; just look at your center stand.

Quote from: RoadstergalIt's easy to tell; just look at your center stand.

Jeeeeerk!   :nana:

In about 3 months, I'm gonna have no tread in the middle and brand-new tread on the edges. :lol:  Giant chicken strips!

oh yeah?  Well, I looked at my seat and it was *totally* scuffed from my insane 135-degree, counter-steered lean angle that i not only dragged BOTH knees on, but popped a 2-mile stand-up wheelie during  :o

Lol, can anyone beat that?

I got to work without crashing!  That's good isn't it? :oops:

Quote from: RVertigoI got to work without crashing!  That's good isn't it? :oops:

That's my definition of a good day...

what tires are on your bike?
probably need stickier tires
leaning off...no big deal
you probably levered the rear wheel off the ground when the centerstand hit

Quote from: werase643you probably levered the rear wheel off the ground when the centerstand hit

I grabbed the photo, cropped it and then cranked the gamma, contrast and brightness around....it looks like just the centerstand lever and front wheel are on the ground.

Tab, Maybe you want to remove that also for the next session? The springs are a bugger to get off, but the stand only has two bolts and some pins holding it on.

That's a fine looking '89 you have there.  :thumb:

I'm jealous.

The bike is alright...   I'm of the opinion that Tab is the fine one

-kevin

Quote from: TarzanBoyThe bike is alright...   I'm of the opinion that Tab is the fine one

That's normal TB. It is just your hormones.

On the other hand, where were all the girls with motorcycles when I was young and single?  :(

ever notice that the women come and go much faster than the guys on this site......

[quote="starwalt]
I grabbed the photo, cropped it and then cranked the gamma, contrast and brightness around....it looks like just the centerstand lever and front wheel are on the ground.[/quote]

i looked at the pic and determined that was a bike laying on its side... already in mid crash....good action photo at least
:thumb:

Boundary Bay is ghetto, I stopped going there a while ago, now I only show up for the stunt nights. Mission is closer for me and they have a beautiful track definately worth checking out if you live in van.

I unfortunately must side with my fellow Georgian, Tab looks mighty nice.

Tab please don't let our (mine and TB's) pathetic advances scare you away from this forum, but please don't become a cynical tease like pandy, either. :lol:   Glad your not hurt keep practicing and having fun, and if you are ever in GA give me a hollar as well.  TB can show you the metropolis of Atlanta, and I'll show you the coast as well as some good 'ol fashion down home southern hospitality.  

TB and other GA GSers, we should try to meet in the middle somewhere for a ride sometime.  Let all these yankees have there fun, but after our ride we can eat collard greens and sip sweet tea.

Quote from: starwaltOn the other hand, where were all the girls with motorcycles when I was young and single?  :(

You're laying yourself wide open for a bunch of "not born yet" smartass replies.

Quote from: starwaltThat's normal TB. It is just your hormones.

Do you know how to make a hormone?

Quote from: RoadstergalYou're laying yourself wide open for a bunch of "not born yet" smartass replies.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

And oppy00: BYTE ME! :P

Oppy, where in GA are you?  I'm putting the band back together!  j/k

I'm actually going to try to catalog all the Georgia GS500 owners I can.

So far there's me (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3503), you (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=1940), danno (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3589), and chiquita (http://www.gstwins.com/forum/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2056).

Know of anyone else?

thanks for all the replies, pointers, etc.

this wasn't a course but a very casual environment to practice safely

tarzanboy-didn't know i was gonna get any fans from the lowside pic  :lol:

scratch-yea,i gotta get my body closer to the bike. tried it on a couple of laps near the end, just not used to it yet...practice, practice.

werase643-love your avatar! i purchased new tires months ago for everyday riding with no intention of going to the track.
if i get serious i will have to make modifications.

rclz-boundary bay is a great place for people like me to practice in a safe environment-yes, it isn't a 'real' track but i'm not ready for that yet - i've got lots to learn. i take it that you race regularly at mission - will you be there this fri for the track daze or the races on the weekend?

cheers everyone  :thumb:

Don't pay her.

That joke's older than I am.   :lol:

Quote from: tab.....
tarzanboy-didn't know i was gonna get any fans from the lowside pic  :lol:

Lol, yeah... well whats not to like about a pretty girl on an '89 ?(Mine's an 89 as well).

Though a few other posters have accused me of being dorky and silly  :oops: , its in all earnestness  :) .

So, about your older 250cc bike... did you not ever ride it hard?  I'd think that you would have hit some good leans over a 12 mo. span of riding

-kevin

Quote from: TarzanBoy

Quote from: tab.....
tarzanboy-didn't know i was gonna get any fans from the lowside pic  :lol:

Lol, yeah... well whats not to like about a pretty girl on an '89 ?(Mine's an 89 as well).

Though a few other posters have accused me of being dorky and silly  :oops: , its in all earnestness  :) .

So, about your older 250cc bike... did you not ever ride it hard?  I'd think that you would have hit some good leans over a 12 mo. span of riding

-kevin

Tarzanboy:

I saw your '89; obviously, you put a lot of work into it. Now I'd like to know more about that '94 - '97 VFR750 in the background; is it yours? If not, do you ever get to ride it? Don't want to hijack the thread, so be sure to ask tab another question in your reply to me. You MIGHT want to ask her if she's married or has a Significant Other... just a suggestion.

Quote from: Cal Amari
I saw your '89; obviously, you put a lot of work into it. Now I'd like to know more about that '94 - '97 VFR750 in the background; is it yours? If not, do you ever get to ride it? Don't want to hijack the thread, so be sure to ask tab another question in your reply to me. You MIGHT want to ask her if she's married or has a Significant Other... just a suggestion.

I'd like to take credit for the mods to my '89, but in reality I purchased her in that exact, pristine condition.  seshadri_srinath and cheesy are the ones that put the time, energy and $$ in to make it look pretty (i'd like to aqcuire a ratty gs and attempt a similar project... only prob is that i dont' know how to weld yet and i dont' have a garage).

The VFR in the background belongs to my roommate.  (Wow, you could tel what it wasl from that little bit in my photos?)  Its a '94 or '95 (i forget which).  I haven't ridden it yet because i've been trying to perfect my riding habits on my bike... but i'll most likely take it out for a spin  this coming month.  When I get home, I'll post a more full photo of it for you.

..and to fulfill your last request (though it doesn't make much of a difference either way since Vancouver is a loooong way from here)...  Tab, are you attached or otherwise involved?  Enquiring minds want to know, lol.

-kevin

Quote from: gsJackDon't pay her.

That joke's older than I am.   :lol:

Oldies but goodies.   :)


Along with "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think..."

wow tarzanboy, you have a SWEET bike!  never would have guessed it to be an '89 until you see the clip on handlebars.

leaning my little cruiser, hmm, not too sure about that - dif seatin position, dif riding style.  i did ride it at top speed of 130km, lol.

for inquiring minds, i do have a boyfriend that doesn't ride  :dunno:

i think i'm gonna stick him in a riding course soon - going to the track really intriqued him.

here's his ride:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/pjtadsp/04cobrat.jpg)

shoulda asked the photog what happened if the instructors don't know.

dunno the place but looks like a glorified parking lot to me.  if so, they really should have been able to tell you what happened (otherwise they're not real instructors if they're not observing their students)...if not, may want to invest in a real "school"... :dunno:

JMO

That second pic would make an awesome avatar.....