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Gravity is shorthand for gravitational force. It causes an acceleration when it acts on a mass. In the absence of another mass, there's still gravity, even though there's no acceleration. Weight is what we typically use as the name for the acceleration produced by gravity when it acts on a mass.
Good luck. ;)
Math minor who is dating a PhD in physics...
RG is a cutie, but I met a girl last night at Blonde that stole the show. Yeah, my bike runs, but the oil presure is still low. :x
And Gravitational force is force. Gravity, when used in the context of acceleration, is also called falling.
So you're on a space station. Your muscles atrophy and you wonder why. You say, is it due to the lack of gravity? Your muscles didn't go away because there was no acceleration. There is plenty of that. But no gravity.
I am the king of the land. Bring me your finest meats and cheeses!
Is it anal-retentive or anal retentive?
:lol:
That's two today, RG. Maybe you should sit out a few plays. I'm going to get in trouble.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeesh...you people had me Googling Sir Isaac Newton for a moment there... but I regained my senses and went back to catching up on the shopping threads. :P
Let me know if you ever figure that one out. :lol:
They've seen the stupidity coming for decades, and have done nothing to evacuate the stupid. :P
I just called you stupid 'cause you don't know how to operate a dictionary.
Then I told you about corndogs... :thumb:
Except one nitpick. I don't think we're actually trying to accomplish anything. Nothing important, at least, just a intarweb flame war. :mrgreen:
(Which i'm winning.)
intardweb flame war? :P
Well, Ed- you've managed to be a complete retard without ever winning an argument, so I guess you still got that going for you. :thumb:
Question: Is gravity a force?
Option 1: Yes, gravity is defined as a force
votes: 17
Option 2: No, gravity is defined as acceleration
votes: 6
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 11:52:08 AM
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 11:52:08 AM
Me and Alphafire are having a, erm, friendly discussion as to the definition of gravity. Your opinion?
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Destro on September 23, 2005, 11:55:55 AM
Post by: Destro on September 23, 2005, 11:55:55 AM
Gravity is defined in meters per second squared which is acceleration. Force is mass x acceleration, i.e. your weight is a force and it differs according to the acceleration (gravity) on the Earth versus the Moon, Jupiter, et. al.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 11:57:25 AM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 11:57:25 AM
Gravity is a force that causes an acceleration.
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Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:00:10 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:00:10 PM
For the laity.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/glossary.html
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/elegant/glossary.html
Quotegravitational force: the weakest of the four fundamental forces of nature. Described by Newton's universal theory of gravity, and subsequently by Einstein's general relativity.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 12:00:48 PM
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 12:00:48 PM
I agree with RG. But I'm a dim wit.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:05:21 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:05:21 PM
YES. Gravitational force is a force. Gravity is different though. There IS gravitational force (gravitation) but gravity is an acceleration. There must be differentiations between these!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Destro on September 23, 2005, 12:06:13 PM
Post by: Destro on September 23, 2005, 12:06:13 PM
Even if she is wrong Jake you would agree with her :roll: , get your bike running yet?
P.S. I believe she is right too, now that I think about it for a bit.
P.S. I believe she is right too, now that I think about it for a bit.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:11:38 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:11:38 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5YES. Gravitational force is a force. Gravity is different though. There IS gravitational force (gravitation) but gravity is an acceleration. There must be differentiations between these!
Gravity is shorthand for gravitational force. It causes an acceleration when it acts on a mass. In the absence of another mass, there's still gravity, even though there's no acceleration. Weight is what we typically use as the name for the acceleration produced by gravity when it acts on a mass.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 12:12:41 PM
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 12:12:41 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5YES. Gravitational force is a force.They're synonyms, dammit!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:14:43 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:14:43 PM
No! Gravity is different from gravitational force...
That's it. I'm going to UT's physics department... I'm (hopefully) going to prove y'all wrong.
It is on.
That's it. I'm going to UT's physics department... I'm (hopefully) going to prove y'all wrong.
It is on.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:15:23 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:15:23 PM
(http://fury.com/images/weblog/palmgeek.gif)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:16:22 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5That's it. I'm going to UT's physics department... I'm (hopefully) going to prove y'all wrong.
Good luck. ;)
Math minor who is dating a PhD in physics...
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:17:31 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 12:17:31 PM
I'm studying mechanical engineering. It's all about physics. But seriously. There is a difference between the two words.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:18:48 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:18:48 PM
(http://www.users.bigpond.com/adriansbruce/cartoons/nerd!.jpg)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:19:33 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:19:33 PM
Print out the thread and take it with you...
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:19:52 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:19:52 PM
(http://www.alden-conger.org/webteam/2003webteam/brette/pics/nerd.jpeg)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:22:24 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 12:22:24 PM
I had red hair in college, but not a pageboy.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:23:54 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 12:23:54 PM
Heh...
I'm still a total geek... I don't just dress like it. :P
I'm still a total geek... I don't just dress like it. :P
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 01:13:54 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 01:13:54 PM
Gravity and gravitation are different things. Gravity is an acceleration caused by gravitational force, but they are still seperate words defining two seperate things.
RG was right though, gravity is caused by gravitational force. However, gravity is an acceleration term, whereas the gravitational force (or gravitation) is a force unit.
RG was right though, gravity is caused by gravitational force. However, gravity is an acceleration term, whereas the gravitational force (or gravitation) is a force unit.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:20:42 PM
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:20:42 PM
Quote from: DestroEven if she is wrong Jake you would agree with her :roll: , get your bike running yet?
P.S. I believe she is right too, now that I think about it for a bit.
RG is a cutie, but I met a girl last night at Blonde that stole the show. Yeah, my bike runs, but the oil presure is still low. :x
And Gravitational force is force. Gravity, when used in the context of acceleration, is also called falling.
So you're on a space station. Your muscles atrophy and you wonder why. You say, is it due to the lack of gravity? Your muscles didn't go away because there was no acceleration. There is plenty of that. But no gravity.
I am the king of the land. Bring me your finest meats and cheeses!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: oppy00 on September 23, 2005, 01:23:33 PM
Post by: oppy00 on September 23, 2005, 01:23:33 PM
I think you should talk to the English department after talking to your physics prof. There is something called 'context' that I believes applies here. Maybe you could ask what the definition of pedantic is while you're at it. :thumb:
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Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 01:27:06 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 01:27:06 PM
Quote from: oppy00Maybe you could ask what the definition of pedantic is while you're at it. :thumb:
Is it anal-retentive or anal retentive?
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:33:04 PM
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:33:04 PM
Quote from: RoadstergalQuote from: oppy00Maybe you could ask what the definition of pedantic is while you're at it. :thumb:
Is it anal-retentive or anal retentive?
:lol:
That's two today, RG. Maybe you should sit out a few plays. I'm going to get in trouble.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: pandy on September 23, 2005, 01:41:01 PM
Post by: pandy on September 23, 2005, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: RVertigo
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Yeesh...you people had me Googling Sir Isaac Newton for a moment there... but I regained my senses and went back to catching up on the shopping threads. :P
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 01:42:18 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 01:42:18 PM
Newtonian physics is bunk anyway. ;)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 01:56:42 PM
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 01:56:42 PM
:icon_rolleyes:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:57:20 PM
Post by: Jake D on September 23, 2005, 01:57:20 PM
Ed: blow it out your ass!!! :lol:
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Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:02:53 PM
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:02:53 PM
:cookoo:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:05:36 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:05:36 PM
Quote from: Ed_in_AzHow many liberals does it take to find the definition of a common word?You mean like the word Liberal?
Let me know if you ever figure that one out. :lol:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:08:11 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:08:11 PM
ia is particularly apt... :)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:12:06 PM
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:12:06 PM
:icon_razz:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:13:25 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:13:25 PM
Quote from: Ed_in_AzI can't read. :thumb::thumb:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:19:19 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:19:19 PM
Gravity is a far less powerful force in the universe than willful stupidity. 8)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:23:33 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:23:33 PM
IT's all the Liberal's fault!!! :lol:
I just love that... It's so damn funny to me when people think the word liberal means something bad.
That's like blaming change on conservatism. :lol:
At least blame the people that are at fault... The government. :lol:
I just love that... It's so damn funny to me when people think the word liberal means something bad.
That's like blaming change on conservatism. :lol:
At least blame the people that are at fault... The government. :lol:
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Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:25:50 PM
Post by: Roadstergal on September 23, 2005, 02:25:50 PM
Quote from: RVertigoAt least blame the people that are at fault... The government. :lol:
They've seen the stupidity coming for decades, and have done nothing to evacuate the stupid. :P
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:27:49 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:27:49 PM
Stage 5 stupid!!! RUN!!!
:lol:
I miss Reagan. :lol:
:lol:
I miss Reagan. :lol:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:30:19 PM
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 02:30:19 PM
;)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:56:24 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:56:24 PM
uoy dehsulf evah dluohs rehtom ruoy
:thumb:
School is good... Learn to read!
:thumb:
School is good... Learn to read!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:57:33 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 02:57:33 PM
Oh and...
dloc doog t'nera sgodnroc
Just so you know. :mrgreen:
dloc doog t'nera sgodnroc
Just so you know. :mrgreen:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 03:04:52 PM
Post by: Ed_in_Az on September 23, 2005, 03:04:52 PM
:dunno_white:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 03:12:28 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 03:12:28 PM
Quote from: Ed_in_AzBlah Blah BlahHA HA HA... You're the only one arguing...
I just called you stupid 'cause you don't know how to operate a dictionary.
Then I told you about corndogs... :thumb:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 23, 2005, 04:18:23 PM
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 23, 2005, 04:18:23 PM
It has to be repeated:
(http://soiland.no/gallery/albums/tg1999/andrev_nerd.sized.jpg)
NERD!
(http://soiland.no/gallery/albums/tg1999/andrev_nerd.sized.jpg)
NERD!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 05:01:22 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 23, 2005, 05:01:22 PM
:lol:
I saw that one too... :thumb:
I saw that one too... :thumb:
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 06:56:27 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 06:56:27 PM
Dammit Ed, why the hell do you feel the need to try and ruin everything? You're so annoying. We were actually trying to accomplish something here, and yet you feel the need to act like a whiny little baby and push yourself in here spouting things that don't even relate to the subject. How utterly juvenile.
Anyways, to the other people...
Gravity and Gravitational force are different. In common usage however, they are interchangeable. In scientific terms they are not. They are defined as seperate and non-interchangable variables. Gravity is acceleration, gravitation is force.
Anyways, to the other people...
Gravity and Gravitational force are different. In common usage however, they are interchangeable. In scientific terms they are not. They are defined as seperate and non-interchangable variables. Gravity is acceleration, gravitation is force.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 11:21:11 PM
Post by: aaronstj on September 23, 2005, 11:21:11 PM
Quote from: AlphaFire X5Dammit Ed, why the hell do you feel the need to try and ruin everything? You're so annoying. We were actually trying to accomplish something here, and yet you feel the need to act like a whiny little baby and push yourself in here spouting things that don't even relate to the subject. How utterly juvenile.Hey, I think we can agree on this. Ed's a duck. I'm surprised he's managed to stick around for 1300 posts.
Except one nitpick. I don't think we're actually trying to accomplish anything. Nothing important, at least, just a intarweb flame war. :mrgreen:
(Which i'm winning.)
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 11:51:28 PM
Post by: Alphamazing on September 23, 2005, 11:51:28 PM
Oh no doubt! We've been arguing useless semanticsc for a while now. In general practice the two words are interchangable, so I can understand the confusion. Scientific circles have to keep them seperate though, as they define two seperate things.
I still like how my American Heritage Dictionary says "The one source for people who have to be absolutely right". I mean, seriously. Wow.
I still like how my American Heritage Dictionary says "The one source for people who have to be absolutely right". I mean, seriously. Wow.
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: pandy on September 24, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
Post by: pandy on September 24, 2005, 11:48:00 AM
Quote from: aaronstjjust a intarweb flame war. :mrgreen:
(Which i'm winning.)
intardweb flame war? :P
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: RVertigo on September 24, 2005, 07:41:07 PM
Post by: RVertigo on September 24, 2005, 07:41:07 PM
Quote from: pandyintardweb flame war? :PBURN!
Title: Help me and Alphafire out
Post by: CasiUSA on September 28, 2005, 10:51:11 AM
Post by: CasiUSA on September 28, 2005, 10:51:11 AM
Quote from: Ed_in_Az
Well, Ed- you've managed to be a complete retard without ever winning an argument, so I guess you still got that going for you. :thumb: