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Extra comma in there, dammit.
Hmm, did he loot or did he find food? :)
I love when, people add commas for no reason and use "quotation marks" where they make no sense. For example:
Best "steaks" in town!
If you see that at a restaurant, run!
Things I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on TV
1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the hurricane.
3. Mssissippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
4. New Orleans has no white people.
5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama bresident.
6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans: now the city is welfare, looter and gang free and they are
in your city.
8. White folks don't make good news stories.
9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
instead Buddha Loves You because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue efforts.
11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you
and give you money for being stupid.
12. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
Quote from: davipuIgnore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you and give you money for being stupid.
What if you have no means to evacuate? Nowhere to go and no way of getting there. That's what "poor" means. It doesn't mean no money - it means no money and no backup.
You got legs, right? Start walking.
When you see a quarter laying in the street pick it up. Find a payphone, and use you're new quarter to call a church or other charitable organization. Ask for HELP getting your sorry ass out of town. Be polite.
Doesn't seem so tough. Maybe I'm nieve for believing people are generally good, or maybe I'm a fool for believing the Bible when it says "Ask and you shall recieve." Hey you may have to ask more than once, or maybe the answer will be "start walking", but I imagine if you want to go you'll be able to find the means to leave.
Quote from: oppy00You got legs, right? Start walking.
Where do you walk?
The hurricane is not confined to city limits. Which way do you go? How do you know you won't get caught in an even worse situation, far from home, not knowing where you are?
Problem complicated when you have children/other dependents.
Quote from: oppy00When you see a quarter laying in the street pick it up. Find a payphone, and use you're new quarter to call a church or other charitable organization.
The only things I saw lying in the street in NO are rats, rags, broken booze bottles, and frat boys passed out drunk. OK, you have your hypothetical quarter. Who do you call? The chruches evacuated and evaporated. The charitable organizations are underfunded and understaffed. And that's exactly what was lacking - the funding and the staffing to have organization. People have a will - but if you don't have a way that you have any reason to believe won't be far worse than what you have already, your will tells you to stay were you are.
It's easy to judge when you're high and dry.
Quote from: davipuhttp://www.chronwatch.com
From the home page:
QuoteChronWatch.com is a conservative news site...
"Bush did a damn fine job. Yes, sir."
the commonalityis not race or money. it's the culture, the mentality! unable to think past present, and no progress in sight.
where do you walk to? ANYWHERE! just take action! you say they can't afford to take action or risk...sure they can! why are they trying to evacute after the fact? becasue the have no choice. they're forced to take action.
we need to try to fix the curture not poverty.
and the black leaders who are trying to turn this into a race issue, they're not helping their people but imparing them even further.
what do you expect from a conservitve news org?
all I have read from the liberal side is how the feds have failed in there efforts to help, but i guess then it is thier fault for not babysitting the LA state govt. and telling them how to do thier job besides repeated warnings from various sources
Scientists, engineers, local officials and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers had long warned that the 300 miles of levees around New Orleans could never protect it from a storm of Katrina's strength.
A 2004 National Geographic magazine article foretold Katrina's devastation with chilling, step-by-step prescience. The New Orleans Times-Picayune ran a five-part series in 2002 that was also close to the mark in its predictions, as was a study more recently commissioned by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
taken from this article. http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/09/11/MNG40EM0291.DTL
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I think people didn't leave for a few reasons:
1. They couldn't think of a way to get out for whatever reason... Car mentality... No Car == Trapped.
2. They weren't mobile enough due to health.
3. They didn't believe that it was going to be as bad as it was.
4. They didn't know they had to leave until it was too late.
The only one that the government needs to help with is #2. We take care of the old, sick, and handicapped in this country... The government is to blame for these people being trapped in the city.
As for #1... I used to hitchhike EVERYWHERE... Most people that don't have cars know people with cars, have bicycles, or know where to catch a bus. There are many ways to travel and several require no equipment or money.
#3 You can blame this one on the media... Everything is the end of the world on the news. Anyone that remembers the cute little earthquake in Seattle a few years ago should know what I mean. On the news, it seemed like Seattle fell into the sea...... But, 90% of the damage was in one neighborhood and it was 100% of the news footage.
#4 Perhaps the government could have done something additional here...... But, some people are just so closed off that there's really no way to let them know what's going on.
The goverment, at the national and local level, is partially responsible for 3 and 4, as well. The information was very clearly there. It was known that it was going to be bad while it was still offshore; it was known that the levees were vulnerable. The government has the authority to state that information and be believed as a more accurate source than Geraldo hype.
And do not underestimate the importance of an authority figure telling you where to go BEFORE the situation becomes a crisis. As Dave said, the information was there. It wasn't given to the people who would be immediately impacted in a helpful fashion. See my statement at the bottom.
If somebody is telling you in the middle of a crisis to go to the Superdome - which is still in the city, and is losing structural integrity, and is already overcrowded - I might stay home and take my chances, too.
Quotewhere do you walk to? ANYWHERE! just take action!
Misguided action is worse than no action. If you run to take shelter in a place that is prone to flash-flooding... if you go to take shelter in a church that was not designed for hurricane winds and get a steeple on your head... if you run out of the city and escape the initial surge, but have no way of getting back and no food sources and no clean water - well, you're even more screwed than if you stay put.
Bad planning - acting without thought - got us into this mess in the first place. It kills during the crisis. And it will get us into another crisis if we rebuild the city on the same plan as it was originally set up. "Who cares about planning? Just DO something!"
THAT is what a government exists for. To plan ahead better than individuals can. That's why we form the blasted things in the first place.
All these national terrorism drills, and not one national hurricane drill.
I feel badly for the people who tried to get out and couldn't, but a large number of the "victims" in New Orleans were idiots who refused to evacuate. If you want to go down with the ship, go to it, but don't come whining for assistance when your disconnect with reality bites you in the ass. I don't feel sorry for the idiots living in floodplains who have to rebuild every time the local river runs over its banks, and I don't have much empathy for people who live in hurrican alley and are too arrogant to get out of the way when the big one comes. Any empathy that I did have was quickly negated by the actions of those who stayed during the storm - looting, riots, murder, assault, shooting at rescue helicopters, and then bitching that the help wasn't there fast enough.
As for feeling bad for N.O. -- as davipu said, the levees were never of the strength to stand up to a cat 4 hurricane. And any natural protection that might have been offered by offshore sand bars and the river delta itself has long been negated by repeated dredging to deepen travel lanes for oil barges and tunneling for pipeline along the coast. Louisiana has been shrinking for decades as its coastline washes away due to these factors. And lastly, the city is below sea level and sits right on the friggin water - this was BOUND TO HAPPEN eventually, and it's amazing it didn't happen any sooner. Building a metropolis below sea level right next to the ocean is a civil engineer's game of russian roulette.
RG- Quit being such a damn stupid liberal!!! LOL You know that everyone who is poor chooses to be poor. This is america land of opportunity. khfdjhfkjahkjfhgkjfhsdkghdksjhg ok I 'm better now I just wanted to see what it was like to be an un caring, selfish, narrow, and uncompassionate person. RG is right I agree with everything she says on this topic. That girl is smart!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Quote from: ajgs500RG- Quit being such a damn stupid liberal!!! LOL You know that everyone who is poor chooses to be poor. This is america land of opportunity. khfdjhfkjahkjfhgkjfhsdkghdksjhg ok I 'm better now I just wanted to see what it was like to be an un caring, selfish, narrow, and uncompassionate person. RG is right I agree with everything she says on this topic. That girl is smart!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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now, slowly move your lips away from rg's ass...
Well I rather be kissing her ass than Ed's!!!!
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damn, I thought this whould be atleast a two page pot stir.
Quote from: RVertigoI think people didn't leave for a few reasons:
1. They couldn't think of a way to get out for whatever reason... Car mentality... No Car == Trapped.
2. They weren't mobile enough due to health.
3. They didn't believe that it was going to be as bad as it was.
4. They didn't know they had to leave until it was too late.
I tend to believe you here. Sitting around and saying, "they're stupid for not leaving" is the most ignorant shaZam! I've ever heard.
i also wonder if some of the people sitting around after the flood apparently not doing much to help themselves were suffering from shell shock. sounds like people have seen some pretty horrible things.
Quote from: davipuThings I have learned from watching the news about Hurricane Katrina on TV
1. The hurricane only hit black family's property.
2. New Orleans was devastated and no other city was affected by the hurricane.
3. Mssissippi is reported to have a tree blown down.
4. New Orleans has no white people.
5. The hurricane blew a limb off a tree in the yard of an Alabama bresident.
6. When you are hungry after a hurricane steal a big screen TV.
7. The hurricane did 23 billion dollars in improvements to New Orleans: now the city is welfare, looter and gang free and they are
in your city.
8. White folks don't make good news stories.
9. Don't give thanks to the thousands that came to help rescue you,
instead Buddha Loves You because the government hasn't given you a debit card yet.
10. Only black family members got separated in the hurricane rescue efforts.
11. Ignore warnings to evacuate and the white folks will come get you
and give you money for being stupid.
12. Oh, and it is all George Bush's fault.
Fantastically done, and I agree with EVERY ONE.
All they show are the whiners, and 95% of the time they're black.