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Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: jag69 on September 26, 2005, 07:19:04 PM
Here are the links

http://www.kawasaki.com/product_detail.asp?product=145&tag=motorcycle

I like them both in Black.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: mountindewGS on September 26, 2005, 07:35:04 PM
That a really sexy bike. I wonder what the horsepower to the rear wheel is? Im looking at the Sv650 for my next bike but I might buy that bike.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: tbblizzard on September 26, 2005, 07:48:25 PM
what kinda material do they use on that seat? looks the same as the gixxers, cbrs, and ducati... i wanna rewrap my seat in that material. the stock material on the gs looks like rubber and cheap. :x
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Alphamazing on September 26, 2005, 08:09:09 PM
The general and fairly reliable way to calculate rear wheel horsepower is to take their claimed horsepower output (it's always crankshaft horsepower) and subtract 15%.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: JetSwing on September 26, 2005, 09:04:16 PM
ugly
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: roguegeek on September 26, 2005, 10:33:14 PM
Quote from: JetSwingugly
I'm with ya. Simply ugly. Rather get and SV although I'm not too happy with the dated style on that thing either.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: rritterson on September 26, 2005, 11:13:56 PM
is it just me or are motorcycles getting taller and also getting shorter wheelbases? That bike looks like a short muscular guy, just like the new R6 does compared to it's old model, which is exactly the same way the motoGP bikes look. The GS is short and lanky in comparison

Is that for looks, or is it for better handling?
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Budrick320 on September 27, 2005, 07:42:32 AM
Question: What is the appeal of an SV?? I never figured it out. I am not downing them, but I personally don't like them. I think there are alot better looking bikes out there. Just wondering why so many like them?

Oh, and did you check out the new ZX-14. Looks like we have someone competing with the Busa.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: My Name Is Dave on September 27, 2005, 08:17:54 AM
Hey, they put ghey flames on the EX250!

Dave  :cheers:
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Jeff P on September 27, 2005, 08:28:10 AM
Quote from: Budrick320Question: What is the appeal of an SV?? I never figured it out. I am not downing them, but I personally don't like them. I think there are alot better looking bikes out there. Just wondering why so many like them?
I've never even ridden one, but I can tell you why I like 'em.  They're just like the GS, but more modern.  Standard style, same size, lightweight, great engine, low price.  What's not to like?  Looks are very low on the list for a lot of buyers.

jeff
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Roadstergal on September 27, 2005, 11:24:52 AM
Quote from: rrittersonis it just me or are motorcycles getting taller and also getting shorter wheelbases?

I dunno - the '05 GSX-R 1000 is the first 'real' sportbike I can sit on and have both feet on the ground.  So not necessarily taller. Thank goodness.


Quote from: Budrick320Question: What is the appeal of an SV??

A sporty street bike that's fuel-efficient, quick, handles well, and is reliable.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: JetSwing on September 27, 2005, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: Roadstergal
Quote from: Budrick320Question: What is the appeal of an SV??

A sporty street bike that's fuel-efficient, quick, handles well, and is reliable.
has a good support community too
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: oppy00 on September 27, 2005, 01:37:39 PM
WOW :o  Flames on the Nunja 250, not it almost looks like CRAP! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:




I like flame paint jobs by the way.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: brembo on September 27, 2005, 03:04:35 PM
That Z750S looks horrid, we're lucky we get just get the naked Z750 over here.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: milo on September 27, 2005, 08:37:26 PM
Cheaper than the SVS. Very impressive.

Love the 649cc parallel twin. Love the frame. Like the muffler, sorta. But fairings are icky, and only 4 gallons in the tank? Weak. With a small tank and an "extremely short wheelbase" this thing will not tour as well as the SV... if only the SV weren't so hideous...

I must say: from a style-vs.-substance standpoint, the Kawasaki 650R compares to the Suzuki SV650 as the Suzuki 500F compares to the Kawasaki 500R. They're flip-flopped.

So is the GSF outselling the 500R? If so, then maybe the SV will finally be dethroned...


Edit: just glancing at the SV pages... it really is ugly. Looks like the engine is being vomited out of the frame in front. Maybe all it needs is a decent chin fairing?

Also, why on earth has Suzuki gone back to the GSE-style rectangular mirrors? I switched those out for the old round SV mirrors and they're a hundred times better. Not just better looking, but they're vibration-free at any RPMs.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: GT Eye on September 28, 2005, 09:26:32 AM
Gimme the 750s with z1000 fairing and I'll be a happy guy
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Roadstergal on September 28, 2005, 09:33:23 AM
Quote from: miloonly 4 gallons in the tank?

Yes, the SV has a whole 0.5 gallon on that.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: JamesG on September 28, 2005, 03:31:29 PM
I'm kinda digging the (EX?) 650R. Like the Buellish exhaust.  Should give the SVs a run for the money.  Time will tell if it becomes as good a race platform as them.  Odd that they didn't bring the naked(ish) version to the US. I guess they didn't want to take the chance with its bold styling, so instead brought out a rather conservative faired one...
:dunno:  
I wonder why they even bother to keep the EX500 in production? insurance incase the 650 flops? Wring the last bit of money out of the EX's toolings?

:dunno:
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Ed on September 28, 2005, 03:54:37 PM
While I like the looks of the low muffler I fear it precludes the addition of a centerstand which I think is unfortunate.

Also, since Kawasaki is presenting this as an all-arounder, it would be nice to be able to add some hard luggage but from the pictures that looks to be difficult at best.

I'm curious to see  the insurance rates on this.

Ned
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: dbarile on September 28, 2005, 04:27:27 PM
Pricewise I don't think the EX500 and the 650R will compete in the same territory.

Kawasaki is probably thing EX500 vs 650R is kinda like GS500F vs SV650.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: JamesG on September 29, 2005, 02:03:53 AM
true, but then I wonder why Suzuki keeps the GS around (and marvel that they went and put full fairings on it?!?).

I guess like the Katana, they keep selling enough to make money...
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: Alphamazing on September 29, 2005, 06:41:08 AM
The GS hasn't been tooled in YEARS. The processes required to make parts for this thing has been refined to the utmost. It's probably EXTREMELY cheap for Suzuki to keep making these things, which means pure profit, essentially.
Title: Kawasaki Ninja 650R and 750S for those interested
Post by: 500rider on October 14, 2005, 09:22:43 AM
Quote from: bremboThat Z750S looks horrid, we're lucky we get just get the naked Z750 over here.

In Canada we get the Z1000 and Z750 with just the headlight fairing.  I haven't seen an S version.