So I can't find the post we had where we were talking about the Ninja 650, so I'll start a new one.
This lady at my work has a Ninja 250. She's had it since March or so and has about 500 miles on it (yeah, not too much of a rider there now, are we?). She has no skills in terms of working on it and even paid the shop to install her "cool" new green grips (trust me, I tried to tell her it's a simple job you can do at home). So she's not big into bikes like I am.
She comes up into my office today and shows me the new catalog for Kawis. I tell her I've seen them already and like them (but they're not out, she argued, so I couldn't have seen them :roll: ). She then tells me that the stealership really wants to buy her 250 back for the exact amount she bought it for (right...) and that she wants the 650 :o :o :o
Are you serious? So I'm stunned. I tell her that I wouldn't even touch that thing, and I'm about to hit 2500 on the GS. I say that I am hoping to at least double my mileage on my bike before I even THINK about another bike, and it will be a used SV or TL most likely. No way in hell would I buy a brand-new Ninja 650.
So she starts saying "well if you wouldn't..." and whatnot. Yeah, sweetie, 500 miles on a little 250 isn't nearly the amount of seat time you need before you are a good rider.
I couldn't believe she was saying that. :?
I'm not hating on the bike or anything (I actually like the new Ninja a lot), it's just the shaZam! that runs through the heads of some people...
Dave :cheers:
ha ha...a girl on ex250 is a better rider than you are :lol:
is she cute?
Let me handle these in order:
No.
No.
That is all.
I won't be upgrading for a looooong time -- every time I think I'm getting to be a better rider, all I have to do is look at my chicken strips. I don't get out and ride enough, and 90% of my riding is on the highway or in town, so improvement comes slow.
Quote from: Jazzzzzevery time I think I'm getting to be a better rider, all I have to do is look at my chicken strips.
Totally cures me too...
I'm still working on not counter leaning in corners and fighting the urge to wheelie. :lol:
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXLet me handle these in order:
No.
No.
That is all.
if she was hot, you would admit your defeat to a girl
is she so bad that she'll look better after she crashes?
Again, in order:
If she was hot, we wouldn't be having this convo. Hot girls can get away with a lot more stupidity; you expect the others to have brains. Wink ;)
And that is not going to be answered. She is 45 with children and grandchildren, so the idea of a crash bothers me. I won't be that morbid.
Quote from: 2005-GS500-PDXHot girls can get away with a lot more stupidity; you expect the others to have brains.
/e dives for cover.
Quote from: BadgerQuote from: 2005-GS500-PDXHot girls can get away with a lot more stupidity; you expect the others to have brains.
/e dives for cover.
What, there are no hot girls here.
Again, wink ;)
Dear ladies of GSTwin,
Please note that my prior post was a joke and nothing more. You are all hot in my eyes. And in my pants.
Signed,
Pirate Louis the Dagger
upgrade to the kawi 650 from a 250? What a tard.. I'm just starting out on the kawi 650, buying one as soon as my local stealership can get me one, dad said he'd put it on his credit card, he's buying my gear, I'm getting a helmet and some cool t-shirts to wear when I ride, maybe some new tennis shoes.. dad said he'd pay for the MSF course, but I told him I don't need it, after all, I've ridden plenty of bicycles, how difficult can a little ninja be?
BREATHE
I'm kidding... the GS will almost definitely be my first bike... drats like that lady make me upset...
drat = tard backwards for all you drats out there.. (or davipu, as I know he'll be inebriated if/when he reads this)
:) :)
all i can say about that lady is - what a dork!
500 miles in 7 months and she wants to upgrade to a 650 :lol: :lol:
some people must learn the hard way - i feel sorry for her family
500 mi? She has not even reached the break in period. The break in is like 1,300 mi. That is only two and 1/2 tanks of gas for christ sake. I do 500mi + weekly on my 250. (Can not go wrong with cheapo transportation..)
Tell her, yea sure.. go ahead and get the 650, just make sure that she has someone already in line to take her job so that it can be business at usual when they are scraping her squid ass off the road.
Its a damn TWIN everyone! lots of people have started out on the Suzuki SV-650. Damn. ITs not like its some 650cc inline 4 with super gnarly speed. Look, its even got the crappy handle bars the GS comes with.
500 miles in 7 months? Wow....ha....seriously wow....................
2005-GS500-PDX your avatar cracks me up everytime I see it.
I know a girl who at the time was about 24 yrs old that started out on a SV650. She never had any problems that I heard about and did a fair amount of riding with it. She sold it after about 2 yrs because she changed jobs and was going to be doing a lot of travelling for work and thought she's never have time to ride it. She was the athletic type though so I think that had a lot to do with her success.
This lady though may not have the same amount of natural ability.
I have ridden an SV650 (see avitar) and I thought it was quite a handful but it was tuned for the track with Hindle exhaust etc. It took a few laps to get used to it. By comparison I have also test ridden a Honda F4i and I thought it was very manageable around town. A newb might not actually have any problem getting around on it any more than the GS. The problem comes when you open it up full throttle and you're not prepared for the rush of power.
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I have also ridden a 2005 Buell Lightning which I thought was an absolutely ridiculous bike. I have ridden a variety of bikes and this thing is stupid. The throttle is basically on/off. It would be impossible for a newb not to crash.
So I think it depends on the bike and the rider. The new Kawi 650 may be a kitty cat cat.
Quote from: Sir Smapty2005-GS500-PDX your avatar cracks me up everytime I see it.
Believe you me, it cracks me up also.
Quote from: FedExMike24Its a damn TWIN everyone! lots of people have started out on the Suzuki SV-650. Damn. ITs not like its some 650cc inline 4 with super gnarly speed. Look, its even got the crappy handle bars the GS comes with.
Please reserve the comments here. Trust me that the person in question was very much the reason for the disbelief. I mean, she was amazed that I lubed and tightened my own chain. And she took it in to get grips put on. She is a f%$king moron.
And that aside, that is still too much bike for any beginners, especially one who can't do over 20 miles a week. I wouldn't recommend anyone get that to start out on. But you go ahead and tell one of your buddies to get it. I mean, it IS just a V-Twin...
people think a sv650 is a good first bike, pretty universally. so why wouldnt a kawi 650 that's meant as sv650 competition be a first bike either? They will be comparable in many ways supposedly.
I dont think its a good idea obviously but there you have it.
Facts:
>In terms of stepping up, yes it is a stretch.
> She probably has no business thinking she has outgrown her ninja.
>The 650 twin is still a good entry level bike ( its not like a dirt bike with a wicked power band that is constantly rearing its head waiting to bite you)
> Any time, people, that someone has the opportuniy to get rid of a ninja 250 POS and not loose there shirt, they should take advantage of it and dump that thing. ( i personally think that bike is the biggest pos the Japanese have ever inflicted us with) ( ask the guys who have tried racing them :roll: they were constantly replacing engines)
If she just wants a different bike, and doesn't think she has outskilled her current bike, then by all means dont' make yourself look like the killjoy. Just tell her to take it slow, and ask her if she thinks her skill has outgrown her Ninja, and then with her answer, you will have a bettr perspective.
Just because some people dont work on their own bike does not mean they are stupid and don't know how to ride. Thats like saying " Oh you don't know how to install a hard drive and install Windows XP" "Wow what a moron bet that person can't even use a PC".
My wife's the type of person that if something needs to be worked on or an aftermarket part installed she'll take it to the mechanic and them do the work.
I just don't see that because someone had the dealership install their grips=they are a bad rider.
Most of the people here are riding a GS ( 487cc ), the lady you are talking about is riding a Kawi 250 a move up to a 650 is not a big leap. Like it was said the Kawi she was talking about is a twin not an in-line 4. And I have read on lots of different msg boards that the SV650 is a great beginner bike, so why not the Kawi 650?
Quote from: blue05twinI have read on lots of different msg boards that the SV650 is a great beginner bike, so why not the Kawi 650?
because kawi is fugly... :roll:
Nobody works here, and nobody knows this lady. I can't bring you all here to meet her, so I cited a few things about her that try and prove my point about her incompetance. Sorry that a few got pissy about it, but this girl is a complete retard and has admitted to taking turns too fast and nearly locking up the rear brake in corners. More than once. I don't know what else to say here.
I was making a point about a certain lady, not about everyone and that particular bike. Trust me: if you knew this chick, you'd be as anti-650 for her as I am. She has almost spilled on the 250; what will she do with a 650?
Kawi 650 is an ugly bike ( at leas to me) I already know that I was talking about if the SV650 is a good beginner bike why not the kawi 650 as far as performance wise.
Quote from: porsche4786500 miles in 7 months? Wow....ha....seriously wow....................
Makes me sick when people have nice bikes and store them. Bikes are built to be ridden not pretty decoration for the garage!
Quote from: phireQuote from: porsche4786Makes me sick when people have nice bikes and store them. Bikes are built to be ridden not pretty decoration for the garage!
It's a Ninja 250, man. It's neither pretty nor nice! :lol:
Quote from: AlphaFire X5Quote from: phireQuote from: porsche4786Makes me sick when people have nice bikes and store them. Bikes are built to be ridden not pretty decoration for the garage!
It's a Ninja 250, man. It's neither pretty nor nice! :lol:
:lol: Yeah but why have a bike and not ride it? That'd drive me insane with the bike sitting out there taunting me.
Some people do just like motorcycles because of the allureof the. The culture, the perceived "coolness", etc. Riding is secondary to some people. :roll:
Quote from: PhaedrusSome people do just like motorcycles because of the allureof the. The culture, the perceived "coolness", etc. Riding is secondary to some people. :roll:
But those people don't get 250's. Ninja 250's are very short on "coolness".
Except (perhaps) to other riders. I was at the gear shop and the sales guy that was helping me was pretty much drooling over my GS. "Sharp looking, kinda like a gixxer but waaaaay more practical" was his comment. Actually, whenever I've been chatting with anyone who actually rides, they always give props to the GS. Whenever I talk to anyone else, they ask me if I can go 150mph. :?