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Title: NOS???
Post by: chefod on October 13, 2005, 08:52:06 AM
OK, so I found out I can get turbo for a small fortune, but it is probably not worth while , anyone know anything about NOS, like where I would find a kit for a 2005 GS500F???? Is it worth while?
Title: NOS???
Post by: dionysus on October 13, 2005, 09:16:27 AM
No. The GS500 has a bit of power. If you want more, buy a bigger bike, it'll be cheaper. If you want a project bike, buy an old bike and fix it up.
Title: NOS???
Post by: Jake D on October 13, 2005, 09:19:15 AM
I'm telling you that there is a guy in this forum that posts a lot that puts NO2  on everything he owns, including his GS 500 E!

I bet you could make just about any kit work for a no FI smaller bike.
Title: NOS???
Post by: dionysus on October 13, 2005, 09:37:03 AM
Yes. You could make it work.. probably for lots of $$ and time. I just think the GS is great for what it is, a sporTY bike, not a sport bike. I just figure there's more cost effective ways to get a high-powered bike, and in the end buying a used 600 i4 will probably give more power and be cheaper than putting a turbo or NO2 on the GS, and you wont risk blowing up your brand new engine.
Title: NOS???
Post by: Jake D on October 13, 2005, 09:46:28 AM
I really think this type of behavior should be encouraged.  Haven't you ever wondered what it would be like or how good it would work or if the motor would survive?  

I say go for it!!!

I want video!  

Note: My bike is an '89 and I'd never do something like this.
Title: NOS???
Post by: nicks11982 on October 13, 2005, 10:23:12 AM
Tried it and it fried the shaZam! out of the engine. you can get a NOS "sneaky Pete" system  for about 250.00.  The GS is too lean for nitrous. You would have to jet it too run rich as hell, and it would run like shaZam! unless you were using it, and Nos is intended to be used at full throttle. Turbos are useless cause the don't create enough power due to the small engine size. The engine has to be able to turn the turbin in the turbo. 2000.00 or more plus time and headaches for 35-40 extara HP isn't worth it.  Save your money and  get a 600. Its alot more power but not enough that you'll kill yourself the first time you ride it. :thumb:
Title: NOS???
Post by: nicks11982 on October 13, 2005, 10:49:47 AM
It was on a ninja 500 to clarify. And the sneaky pete system is a DRY system. A wet system might work, but would still be too rich. Plus I think the heat created would overheat the enigine. I know that compres No2 Is cold but I almost certain that when it burns it would be too hot for a aircooled bike.
Title: NOS???
Post by: RVertigo on October 13, 2005, 11:40:27 AM
Who is it that has the sig something like this:
QuoteHaving NOS is like having a hot girlfriend with an SDT.  You're afraid to do anything because of what might happen.
:lol:

I love that.   :mrgreen:
Title: NOS???
Post by: Blueknyt on October 13, 2005, 11:44:03 AM
well, you set the needle up with a heavy taper for WOT and moderate for low and midranges. this would no longer be a very nice bike to street around.  Nos Beats hell out of an engine, most the time you nos up throwaway blocks.

asfar as the GS500 mill goes, other then  reworking the fundimentals, bore, stroke, and flow mixed with abit of ballencing and timing there isnt a NON-nuclear way to give it the pine cones you are lookin for.   the gs500 is fun and reliable, thats what it was designed abd built for, nothing more.  it will cost you in more then cash to make it more then such. ask the racers as they are the ones squeezing for every extra 1/2 pony they can get while keeping them reliable.   we belive  Bob B having Franken GS with a Modified GSXR head comes close, Dgyver and one or 2 others that are simular in building large CC mills.  you want fast, get another bike, the GS wont give you what your looking for.
Title: NOS???
Post by: V8Pinto on October 13, 2005, 01:07:07 PM
I should have a kit done by the end of November (is it that time of year already?).

Having exploded an engine with nitrous during a race, I do not do any jetting changes that would make the car/bike run differently when off the bottle.  The sneaky pete system is probably an ok compromise for if you want an extra tenth but I can get that by laying off cheeseburgers for a few weeks.

There are a few universal kits you can buy that run roughly $750 bucks (I think I can do it cheaper than that).  You'll get roughly 60 safe HP out of the GS motor for that money which is about what you would get out of a high quality total package performance rebuild approach (2V head) so the choice is really up to the user.

I'll post pictures and timeslips when i get closer to completion if anyone is interested.
Title: NOS???
Post by: Riggsy on October 13, 2005, 02:54:00 PM
Turbo a GS?
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
A totally and utterly pointless excercise!


I say go for it :thumb:


You lot are madder than a bag of frogs.
Title: NOS???
Post by: NightRyder on October 13, 2005, 04:28:43 PM
Well... I say If you don't mind the huge pain in the ass it is going to create, go for it. Just remember to think about how much pain you can sustain.
Title: NOS???
Post by: ajgs500 on October 13, 2005, 04:53:01 PM
Just get a freakin 'busa.
Title: NOS???
Post by: fusion04 on October 13, 2005, 06:32:49 PM
busas can be crazzyyyyyyyy........my dad turbo'd his busa :P
Title: NOS???
Post by: ajgs500 on October 13, 2005, 06:34:41 PM
Good maybe he can sell it to chefod.
Title: NOS???
Post by: Blazinjr on October 13, 2005, 08:31:44 PM
Quote from: RVertigoWho is it that has the sig something like this:
QuoteHaving NOS is like having a hot girlfriend with an SDT.  You're afraid to do anything because of what might happen.
:lol:

I love that.   :mrgreen:

That be me :thumb:

I have yet to officially try the kit at the track, lack of a few safety parts for the kit, and I have only used it a couple of times with the 50 hp jets installed checked the plugs and the color looked good.  I removed the bottle and I am waiting for the spring for some dyno time and playing with the jet sizes.

If the car or bike is tuned properly on a dyno or using a wideband O2 setup then the danger of blowing the engine is greatly reduced.  

Remember, "with great power comes great responsiblity"  :roll:
Title: NOS???
Post by: Jace009gs on October 13, 2005, 08:51:42 PM
ok little 487c motor with *cough* el-cheapo internals [OEM stock] can't take the NOS abuse...Seriously I would not doubt it throwing a rod through the block or the tranny locking up all together and/or melting the clutch basket + u can figure MINIMUM extra 20hp to the tire at the blink of a switch and a 150 can only grab so much....I say you just pour on the NOS and loose speed because the tire just lights up :lol:  now that would be funny to watch...NOS GS500 burns the rear tire to shreds, throws the rod through the oil pan, dog lever bends, white smoke emitting from the engine side cap. :nana:
Title: NOS???
Post by: dionysus on October 14, 2005, 08:24:51 AM
Damn... it that case, GO FOR IT!!! Just make sure you get a video, cuz that'd be great to see ;)
Title: NOS???
Post by: TarzanBoy on October 14, 2005, 07:49:23 PM
Why stop with the GS?  Get a vespa and NOS it out too.   Make sure to capture everything on video, though... like everyone said.
Title: NOS???
Post by: Blueknyt on October 14, 2005, 08:53:50 PM
dont laugh i know a shop that sets up Old school racing peds, like puche,tomas and few others for little nos bottles,and some that burn Nitro.