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Title: Humiliation.
Post by: jen_ on October 14, 2005, 09:47:57 AM
So, I dropped my bike yesterday.  Ug.  :oops:   Of course, I have to drop it on the opposite side than where the previous owner dropped it.  Sheesh.  I was at the gas station, just filled up, and was taking it off the center stand.  Guess I was leaned too much cause as soon as it dropped off the stand, it was falling. :oops:

But all noobs do it, so no big deal, right?

The guy filling his cage at the next pump was really helpful and came over to help me pick it up.  
him: Grinning stupidly. "Wow, this thing only weighs about half as much as my Harley."  :)  
me: "really."  
him:"Yeah.  No way would I ride this thing.  Sportbikes will kill you." :nono:
me: "It's only a 500cc twin."
him: "Yeah, but it's so light."
me: ...   .... "Well, thanks."

I tried to be very polite.  I mean, he saved me having to call someone to come help me pick it up.

Had like 5 other guys walk over to me and ask if I was alright.  Very chivalrous of you gentlemen, thanks, but I dropped the bike, not myself.

The Grilled Cheese suffered the usual damage.  Scratched fairing, scratched case (now matches the other side). Scratched mirror.  Broken brake lever.  Bent screw on bar end.  Broke something top front of fairing (had to snap it back into place, now sticking out a tad).  Bars all dislodged (didn't realize how bad they were tweaked till I took off down the street--had to do some creative crutch grabbing).  Hubby reminded me that this is why I bought a *used* bike to learn on. ;)
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: JMyrick on October 14, 2005, 09:58:10 AM
I remember the first time I droped my GS first I got up and looked around like "did anyone see that?" but no one was there to see it, but I still felt stupid
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Jake D on October 14, 2005, 10:07:14 AM
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: pandy on October 14, 2005, 10:10:33 AM
One of our customers is a Harley guy, and he gave me the same grief. I ignored him. I'm not the one who's had to have her skull cut open several times due to drunken crashes!

I've dropped my bike too many times to count. I think only my bf has ever seen me, and he's been kind.  ;)

+1 on that's why we got beginner bikes!  :thumb:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Phaedrus on October 14, 2005, 10:55:46 AM
I've dropped / knocked mine over a couple times.  Getting kinda used to it  :P . Luckily, I can pick it up myself. But that doesn't mean I don't feel like a fool afterwards  :lol:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: scratch on October 14, 2005, 11:00:24 AM
Fascinating. I don't get embarassed anymore when I drop my bike...I guess I'm just used to it.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: pandy on October 14, 2005, 11:05:25 AM
Quote from: scratchFascinating. I don't get embarassed anymore when I drop my bike...I guess I'm just used to it.

I've seen your beautiful PURPLE bike, and I can't believe this for one second. That bike is in PERFECT condition!!!!!!!  :dunno:  :P
Title: Re: Humiliation.
Post by: JetSwing on October 14, 2005, 11:05:29 AM
Quote from: jen_I tried to be very polite.  I mean, he saved me having to call someone to come help me pick it up.
you can't even pick up the bike yourself...? what are you a little girl?? oh! you are....i see...  :oops:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 14, 2005, 11:08:13 AM
I LOVE YOUR ICON jen_!!! Hahaha... I'm such a nerd...
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: scratch on October 14, 2005, 01:53:57 PM
Quote from: pandy
Quote from: scratchFascinating. I don't get embarassed anymore when I drop my bike...I guess I'm just used to it.

I've seen your beautiful PURPLE bike, and I can't believe this for one second. That bike is in PERFECT condition!

Aaahh, THAT'S why I'm not embarassed...I'm already embarassed.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: scratch on October 14, 2005, 01:57:37 PM
Quote from: pandyThat bike is in PERFECT condition!

After many years of riding you become very proficient at falling over gracefully and NOT scratching your bike.

- Wise Words of Crashmaster scratch -
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: banner on October 14, 2005, 03:45:05 PM
my bikes purple too

we should make a club for purple gs's

www.gspurple.com

:)
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: pandy on October 14, 2005, 03:50:54 PM
Quote from: bannermy bikes purple too
we should make a club for purple gs's
www.gspurple.com:)
:lol: Can we join if the purple is there, but covered by ugly black spray paint? My GS is about 1/4 purple now.  :dunno:

Quote from: scratchAfter many years of riding you become very proficient at falling over gracefully and NOT scratching your bike.
He has a perfect purple bike, AND he can drop it with grace. I'll never be able to come anywhere CLOSE to dropping mine gracefully... I'm unworthy...  :(

:mrgreen:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: jen_ on October 14, 2005, 05:08:47 PM
OMG I can't believe I got threadjacked by the purple bike discussion. :roll:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: natedawg120 on October 14, 2005, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: jen_OMG I can't believe I got threadjacked by the purple bike discussion. :roll:

:lol:  :lol: I think it happens in a lot of the "first drop" threads since pandy's obsession with purple came out of the closet :cheers:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Blueknyt on October 14, 2005, 05:25:54 PM
dont thing ive not owned AND ridden that i havent droped.  hell, even ate it 4x on my XL250R and only been riding that for couple months, but im not new. then again bald knobbie up front doesnt work on dirt roads/mud. but gotta say works well for what its got. i just need a real early 80 XR250R carb.


oh, by the way, even with my knee messed up (surgicly repaired this morn) its light enough to pickup off the ground completely
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Phaedrus on October 14, 2005, 06:40:09 PM
Quote from: jen_OMG I can't believe I got threadjacked by the purple bike discussion. :roll:

I believe it, it happens to ALL the threads....  :P
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Badger on October 14, 2005, 06:48:32 PM
And RG has a hot avatar.  :P
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 14, 2005, 07:20:12 PM
QuoteAnd RG has a hot avatar. Razz

+1  :thumb:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Narcissus on October 14, 2005, 07:23:47 PM
I know if I ever put the bike up on the centerstand I'd have a hell of a time getting it down by myself without dropping it. Tried it once before and I dropped it of course, it was into the grass luckily. So the next time I tried to do it I decided I'd just put it into gear and ride right off the stand! Didn't work... my 150lbs. wasn't enough, even though I was half on the passenger seat bouncing up and down hoping I'd get some grip. Now I just stay on the bike while I'm at the gas station to keep it level.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: jake42 on October 14, 2005, 08:22:21 PM
Wait till you have it hoisted up on the bike lift and drop it off that into a pile stuff that's laying on your garage floor.  That really sucks.  And I must have some kind of sasquatch strength or something cuz i"ve never had much of a problem lifting my bike up.  If someone who gives a damn about searching cares to look, I'm sure there's a post floating around about the technique used to pick up your bike.

Jake
Title: a thread off another site on how to pick up a bike =)
Post by: AgentNitz on October 16, 2005, 03:42:09 PM
http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?t=34246

good forum too. Not as many entertaining characters as this forum has tho =)
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: '04gs500f on October 16, 2005, 08:45:17 PM
you use your center stand to fill up?

when on my ZX6R I just get as close to the pump as i can pop the gas tank open and stand up balancing the bike inbetween my legs till its full

then close off the cap and rocket outa there!
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Longinus on October 16, 2005, 11:22:32 PM
At work I once witnessed a bloke set his thigh/crotch on fire while he was filling his bike with fuel. He had remained seated on the bike while pumping then after hanging up the hose he stood the bike upright between his legs and started leaning it from side to side, i presume this was to stir the fuel. Anyhoo, the friction between his pants and the seat must have built up a static charge and as he touched his hand to a metal surface a spark must have occured igniting the fumes in the above mentioned areas. The fire only burned for about six or seven seconds, damned funny stuff.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: indestructibleman on October 17, 2005, 07:48:13 AM
http://www.msgroup.org/TIP061.html
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: SuZuki10 on October 17, 2005, 10:53:07 AM
Wow   I went though a whole day of work with gas on my leg.  I had no idea I could have ignited myself just by walking around!  Thanks for the info...I feel dumb! :oops:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: dbNnc on October 17, 2005, 02:00:05 PM
I just use the side stand and get off. It never crossed my mind that the tank might not be getting completely full because the bike was on the side stand. I'd rather not get it completely full than get gas on my pants or take a chance on dropping it off the center stand.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: aaronstj on October 17, 2005, 02:18:29 PM
Quote from: Jake DHow does having a light bike equal danger?

What does the weight of a bike have to do with safety?

Why does a heavy bike make someone feel safe?
I think it's partly a power to weight thing.  A Harley Softail Standard is 651 lbs, and only makes something like 65 hp*.  That's a little less that 0.10 hp per pound.  The GS500f weighs only 396 lbs, and makes 47 hp.  That's almost 0.12, %20 more that the harley.  And the power/weight difference is going to be a lot bigger on a "real" sporstbike.  

And heavy things in general just seem safe to most people.  Light things seems fickle and crushable.

*(Not sure if this is rear wheel or crank)
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Badger on October 17, 2005, 02:26:38 PM
Quote from: aaronstj
Quote from: Jake DHow does having a light bike equal danger?

What does the weight of a bike have to do with safety?

Why does a heavy bike make someone feel safe?
I think it's partly a power to weight thing.
[...]
And heavy things in general just seem safe to most people.  Light things seems fickle and crushable.
I was thinking about this yesterday as I was getting blown around like a leaf in 50mph gusts.  Spent a lot of time leaned over to go straight and wondered if heavier bikes would get blown around less. :dunno:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: RVertigo on October 17, 2005, 02:34:06 PM
Quote from: aaronstjAnd heavy things in general just seem safe to most people. Light things seems fickle and crushable.
In a Car (Truck, SUV, Etc.) impact, weight can make a huge difference.

Some physics major can post the actual equation, but it's something like speed / mass * blah * blah


Mass makes quite a difference...  An 8,114 LBS Hummer vs a 2,593 lbs Civic would NOT be pretty...  For the Civic.

As far as motos go....  You get tossed either way, so why would you want a 1,200 lbs moto landing on your leg?  :dunno:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Badger on October 17, 2005, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: RVertigo
Quote from: aaronstjAnd heavy things in general just seem safe to most people. Light things seems fickle and crushable.
In a Car (Truck, SUV, Etc.) impact, weight can make a huge difference.

Some physics major can post the actual equation, but it's something like speed / mass * blah * blah

Mass makes quite a difference...  An 8,114 LBS Hummer vs a 2,593 lbs Civic would NOT be pretty...  For the Civic.

As far as motos go....  You get tossed either way, so why would you want a 1,200 lbs moto landing on your leg?  :dunno:
Do you mean:

1/2 * mass * (speed * speed)

It's the V-squared that really ruins your day....but you're right, the smaller mass generally loses.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: RVertigo on October 17, 2005, 02:50:03 PM
Quote from: BadgerDo you mean:

1/2 * mass * (speed * speed)

It's the V-squared that really ruins your day....but you're right, the smaller mass generally loses.
I knew it was something like that, but the gravitational influence between two bodies calculation was sticking in my head.

Mass * Mass / Distance  (or something)...

Bah...  It was years ago and I passed the class...   :dunno:   Isn't that what matters.   :P
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Alphamazing on October 17, 2005, 03:46:16 PM
Gravity isn't a force...

What?

God damn v^2.

:lol:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 17, 2005, 03:48:53 PM
QuoteI knew it was something like that, but the gravitational influence between two bodies calculation was sticking in my head.

isn't that mass^2/distance^2? I know the force is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between em...
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: RVertigo on October 17, 2005, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: NiceGuysFinishLastisn't that mass^2/distance^2? I know the force is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between em...
Quote from: RVertigoIt was years ago and I passed the class... :dunno:  Isn't that what matters. :P

:dunno:


All I know is that the roof over my head has more gravitational influence on my body than the moon does.   :thumb:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: pandy on October 17, 2005, 04:07:01 PM
You maths are just SICK! :P
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: RVertigo on October 17, 2005, 04:13:00 PM
Math is hard...  Formulas are hard to remember...

Aren't you glad I didn't try to be an engineer?
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: Roadstergal on October 17, 2005, 04:21:25 PM
In Newtonian physics, momentum is mass * velocity.  Momentum is conserved in an elastic collision.

Energy of a moving object is 1/2 (m(v^2)).  That's where bullets get their nastiness.  They don't weigh much, but they're moving fast.


And I think you're getting this mixed up with gravity; it's an inverse square law force, so the force drops rapidly with distance.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: scratch on October 17, 2005, 04:38:06 PM
I'm in love...









with someone...


Oh, wait, I'm married.
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: calamari on October 17, 2005, 04:44:52 PM
math = the taller they are, the harder they fall
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: NiceGuysFinishLast on October 17, 2005, 06:46:03 PM
QuoteMath is hard... Formulas are hard to remember...

Aren't you glad I didn't try to be an engineer?

Hah.. I AM trying to be an engineer... a HELLUVA engineer, according to the song... wish me luck..
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: NightRyder on October 17, 2005, 07:02:02 PM
Quote from: '04gs500fyou use your center stand to fill up?

when on my ZX6R I just get as close to the pump as i can pop the gas tank open and stand up balancing the bike inbetween my legs till its full

then close off the cap and rocket outa there!

What!? I want to live where you don't have to pay for gas.  :mrgreen:  :lol:
Title: Humiliation.
Post by: '04gs500f on October 17, 2005, 08:03:54 PM
Quote from: NightRyder
Quote from: '04gs500fyou use your center stand to fill up?

when on my ZX6R I just get as close to the pump as i can pop the gas tank open and stand up balancing the bike inbetween my legs till its full

then close off the cap and rocket outa there!

What!? I want to live where you don't have to pay for gas.  :mrgreen:  :lol:

hehehe,

speedpass is a motorcyclists best friend!