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In an attempt to save all of the other threads on the board from being hijacked about lesbiens and the color purple, I have created this thread.   :nana:  :lol:

And by the way, I searched for a purple lesbien thread but couldn't find one.  :lol:

you obviously didn't click on search all terms Rich.  What a noob.

...it might help if you could spell lesbian  :P  searches usually work best that way

what a great idea

Quote from: Onlypastrana199...it might help if you could spell lesbian  :P  searches usually work best that way

My thought eaxctly +1 :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

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Quote from: Onlypastrana199...it might help if you could spell lesbian  :P  searches usually work best that way

My thought eaxctly +1 :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

Exactly. I see your point.

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Quote from: Onlypastrana199...it might help if you could spell lesbian  :P  searches usually work best that way

My thought eaxctly +1 :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

Exactly. I see your point.

exactly!

At least he spelled PURPLE correctly. :P

For most of those around here, sorry pandy, I think the word lesbian is more interesting to them

Yeah, I think you're right....

Oh well.... I like purple AND lesbians!  :thumb:  ;)

Quote from: pandyYeah, I think you're right....

Oh well.... I like purple AND lesbians!  :thumb:  ;)

well, purple IS ghey after all...

Quote from: JetSwingwell, purple IS ghey after all...

Yes, I agree. It's a VERY happy colour!!!!!  :thumb:

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Quote from: JetSwingwell, purple IS ghey after all...

Yes, I agree. It's a VERY happy colour!!!!!  :thumb:

purple =  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)

red = yellow = blue = black =  :?  :x  :(  :?  :x  :(  :?  :x  :(

Quote from: JetSwingpurple = :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)  :lol:  :mrgreen:  :)
red = yellow = blue = black =  :?  :x  :(  :?  :x  :(  :?  :x  :(

Blue & red are excellent colours, too....and black...have never gotten into yellow... I just have this....soft spot.... in my heart for PURPLE GS's!

Can GS's be lesbians??

Quote from: pandyCan GS's be lesbians??

only the purple ones, obviously

I don't understand, I need visual aids to help me comprehend.

How about pics of purple nuts and caps instead?  :mrgreen:

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Quote from: pandyHow about pics of purple nuts and caps instead?  :mrgreen:

Well I've heard of blue balls but not purple nuts :o

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Can GS's be lesbians??

Mine must be, she mated with my jeep and they are both ladies.  I may have nudged her into it though :oops:  :oops:

Ok, so I made a spelling error. Big deal. At least everyone knew what I meant and I made sense. But for what it is worth, I tried a purple lesBIAN search and still didn't find anything. Haha. (http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b68/phaedrusGS/smilies/eck13.gif)

Quote from: jake42you obviously didn't click on search all terms Rich.  What a noob.

Man I hope there's another Rich here people are talking about. Last time I check, I wasn't purple or a lesbian. :thumb:

Ya Phaedrus name is Rich.

And I have no comment on the new sig. :roll:  :roll:

Quote from: natedawg120Mine must be, she mated with my jeep and they are both ladies.  I may have nudged her into it though :oops:  :oops:

And no doubt you watched like a perv.  :lol:

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Quote from: pandyHow about pics of purple nuts and caps instead?  :mrgreen:

Well I've heard of blue balls but not purple nuts :o

:lol:

Can you be a les-been if you're a has-been?

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Quote from: pandyHow about pics of purple nuts and caps instead?  :mrgreen:

Well I've heard of blue balls but not purple nuts :o

:lol:

Can you be a les-been if you're a has-been?

Only if we can call you Anne............ Anne Heche that it :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Quote from: RoadstergalCan you be a les-been if you're a has-been?

I know one les-been, but I don't think she's a has-been yet. I was surprised to see her gushing about how dominant men are her thang.... This is a rainbow-wearing, pride-parade marching, card-carrying member of the ghey party! I didn't know sexuality could change like that!  :dunno:

It can pandy two of the girls I have had relationships with are now with the men folk.  One is even married.

Quote from: ajgs500It can pandy two of the girls I have had relationships with are now with the men folk.  One is even married.

So does this mean they're actually bi and maybe always were?

Sure I guess.  They are both Catholic too which may play into to things.  From all of the research I have seen it is widely accepted that only 10% lie on either end of the spectrum as exclusively homo or hetero and everyone else lies somewhere in between.  It is more than sex anyway, I just find that I connect to women on a level I cant with men.  Oh and chicks are hot too, but especially one.

Quote from: ajgs500It is more than sex anyway

Ja, indeed.  A straight woman might think she's lesbian because she enjoys the sex, but then over time realizes she doesn't connect with gals like she does with guys... or vice versa... and I agree that sexuality is a continuum, not black-and-white.

Quote from: pandyI didn't know sexuality could change like that!  :dunno:

I've met a lot of LUG's (Lesbian Until Graduation)  :dunno:

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Quote from: natedawg120Mine must be, she mated with my jeep and they are both ladies.  I may have nudged her into it though :oops:  :oops:

And no doubt you watched like a perv.  :lol:

I even shouted some 'words' of encouragment  :oops:

QuoteSure I guess. They are both Catholic too which may play into to things. From all of the research I have seen it is widely accepted that only 10% lie on either end of the spectrum as exclusively homo or hetero and everyone else lies somewhere in between. It is more than sex anyway, I just find that I connect to women on a level I cant with men. Oh and chicks are hot too, but especially one.

I'm not trying to start a war, but if only 20% of the population are sure about their sexuality, how does that effect the "I was born ghey" arguement.  Sounds to me like it supports the "choose to be, whatever" arguement.  Also taking away from the "born ghey" arguement is...

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It can pandy two of the girls I have had relationships with are now with the men folk. One is even married.

The "nature V. nurture" arguement (in general, not just in the case of homosexuality) has facinated me for a long time.  I would be very interested in physiological evidence in the difference between homosexuals and hetrosexuals, especially if 80% of us are somewhere in the middle.  I have recently theoized that ghey people have different (or at least different ratios) pheramones (sp).  That is how ghey people (and straight people) know who they are attracted too, at least on a chemical level.


Disregard this entire post if it is too serious for this thread, or if you are offended by it.  If you are offended by it you should probably not take yourself so seriously, though.

Quote from: oppy00I'm not trying to start a war, but if only 20% of the population are sure about their sexuality, how does that effect the "I was born ghey" arguement.  Sounds to me like it supports the "choose to be, whatever" arguement.  Also taking away from the "born ghey" arguement is....

The issue of sexuality is so loaded that I think most people have a hard time admitting even to themselves everything their sexuality entails. There is so much religous, moral, etc/etc stigma related to being ghey or to being different in any way that I think it's not so much an argument against being born ghey and more an argument for how confused we as a society are about our sexuality. I think if given a choice, nearly 100% of people would CHOOSE to be heterosexual; that's what's considered "normal" and that's what will garner one the least amount of flack and grief. Of course, my bias is that we ARE born with our sexual identity already engraved in our genes, just as with our hair colour, eye colour, weight, height, etc., so I'll leave it to someone else to make a statement for the "choice" side. ;)

On the flipside, there are also a lot of homosexuals and bisexuals who are in it for the "cool" and "fun factor". Lately, being homo/bisexual is the "cool" thing to be. It is trendy.  :dunno:

I don't see any real harm in it at all. I don't even see why it is an issue; I don't care who anyone is having sex with (with the exception of myself and my girlfriend). Everyone else, more power to you  :thumb:

That is why I don't understand why it is such a big deal, even on the GStwin site, that many of our threads have to go in the direction of AJ's sexuality. Not because I am a jerk, but because I don't see it as a big deal.  :dunno:

Ja, I'm with pandy - just because we are not on one end or the other doesn't mean we choose where we end up.  Saying sexuality is a continuum does not mean we determine by rational choice where we land on that continuum.  It's hard to pull out what's nature and what's nurture, though, because sexuality is such a touchy issue in our society.  I really wish the people who had problems with homosexuality would just get a life and go pull their hair out about something else.  Persecuting people and denying them marriage because of the plumbing of the people they love just boggles the mind.

Quote from: PhaedrusOn the flipside, there are also a lot of homosexuals and bisexuals who are in it for the "cool" and "fun factor". Lately, being homo/bisexual is the "cool" thing to be. It is trendy.  :dunno:

I don't see any real harm in it at all. I don't even see why it is an issue; I don't care who anyone is having sex with (with the exception of myself and my girlfriend). Everyone else, more power to you  :thumb:

That is why I don't understand why it is such a big deal, even on the GStwin site, that many of our threads have to go in the direction of AJ's sexuality. Not because I am a jerk, but because I don't see it as a big deal.  :dunno:

what ever you say man...

i think it's totally wrong to practice homosexuality, just because it's cool, when you're not ghey. though we encourage it here in this forum full of perverts  :mrgreen:

Once again, sex vs. love.  You can be straight and have sex with someone of the same gender for kicks; we have a messed-up society that has Issues with that, though.

Quote from: RoadstergalOnce again, sex vs. love.  You can be straight and have sex with someone of the same gender for kicks; we have a messed-up society that has Issues with that, though.

so what you're saying is you're going to hook up with aj and there's nothing anyone can do about it... :P

Ok apparently Oppy needs to read some Kinsey or is he banned in the south.  I dont know anyone at least not here in conservative Indiana who is being ghey or bi cause it is cool.  I also agree with Pandy that if anyone had a choice on their sexuality that almost no one would "choose" to be ghey.  Being straight is so so so much easier.  Kinseys thoughts are contrived from research done in the 1950's and I would have to say that many things have changed since then.  The number of 10%, even though it is widely accepted, could and probably has changed.  And to deal with all of the hate and bigotry I have had to develop a f@#$ y&^ attitude about the whole thing.  But even so I will never stop standing up for what I believe in and what is just.

Quote from: PhaedrusOn the flipside, there are also a lot of homosexuals and bisexuals who are in it for the "cool" and "fun factor". Lately, being homo/bisexual is the "cool" thing to be. It is trendy.  :dunno:

I don't see any real harm in it at all. I don't even see why it is an issue; I don't care who anyone is having sex with (with the exception of myself and my girlfriend). Everyone else, more power to you  :thumb:

That is why I don't understand why it is such a big deal, even on the GStwin site, that many of our threads have to go in the direction of AJ's sexuality. Not because I am a jerk, but because I don't see it as a big deal.  :dunno:

I have had a couple of friends who knowing my sexuality decided that they want to experiment.  I don't think there's anything wrong with it :kiss: , it's part of life.  I agree that it's a loaded question and all that but let's make sure that we all know that sex makes the world go round and round.  I know of a lot of people who would rather have someone tell them that they are ghey than say that they are bisexual or what not.  I have some ghey friends that think the whole issue of bi is rediculous and you should pick a side.  I guess my question is why does everybody have to have a label and why do you have to pick just one???

Some people just hate because they have nothing better to do.

Just my take.

why are you born a female, i a male? that's the law of nature. otherwise we'll all be one gender and hump whoever you want.

if you say you're born ghey, that's fine but if you say you want to be a ghey for a couple of days just for the kicks, that's just wrong.

And I think that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

Quote from: JetSwingthat's fine but if you say you want to be a ghey for a couple of days just for the kicks, that's just wrong.

Why?

I fooled around with a woman in college, and that's one of the reasons I know I'm straight - because I tried the other side.  And it was fun.  And I recommend it.

Quote from: ajgs500And I think that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.

+1

Who are you to judge anybody on what they want to do?  We were born with free will for a reason...I also don't think that you can be "ghey" for a couple days...I'm pretty sure we call that experimenting...

Yeah just ask RG!!!!!!!!!!

just because you have the freedom to do it doesn't make it, morally, correct!

go ahead practice homosexuality (when you're not ghey). no one will care! it's not against the law...

do you really need to experiment to know you're ghey or not? now, that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard. rg, what you have done in college was result of peer pressure. i understand that there's alawys an exception but by large, most us don't need to experiment to know that you're not ghey.

So jetwing tell me how u know u r ghey?????

Quote from: skoozi12Who are you to judge anybody on what they want to do?

for the record, i have not personally judged anyone and i don't plan to. i just said the act is wrong (morally). and i have all the right to think that way.

You do and I have all the right to tell you you are an idiot.  I love the constitution.

Judging by the number of girls who have experimented/are ghey here...you may wanna cut ur loses and run away now...do you really wanna inspire our wrath?

Quote from: ajgs500So jetwing tell me how u know u r ghey?????

i know i'm not ghey because i will break the neck of any guy who tries shove his pee pee up my ass so fast that he's gonna wish he kept his pee pee away from me.

or should i give it a try just to be sure...? come on, that's rediculous.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199Judging by the number of girls who have experimented/are ghey here...you may wanna cut ur loses and run away now...do you really wanna inspire our wrath?

hahaha...oh yea? how come we never see any action, huh??  :lol:

Ok so you dont want to that is fine whatever but if for some reason you had feelings for a guy or guys wouldn't you want to find out what it meant.  If you didnt that would be redicules.

Quote from: JetSwingwhy are you born a female, i a male? that's the law of nature. otherwise we'll all be one gender and hump whoever you want.

if you say you're born ghey, that's fine but if you say you want to be a ghey for a couple of days just for the kicks, that's just wrong.

Any time someone says "law of nature" I get cranky. :x

People need to realize that biological sex and sexual behavior are two different things. Sex in mammals is usually straight forward, a simple chromosome difference explains it. There are plenty of people with chromosome abnormalities that may be considered  intersex but lets ignore that for now.

Sexual behavior on the other hand is highly variable. If we look to nature for our laws, then homosexuality, bisexuality, polyamory, incest, rape, and necrophillia should all be considered normal. I'm not equating all these things a la Santorum, just pointing out that many behaviors that some people consider deviant are quite common and normal in the natural world. We shouldn't be surprised that sexual behavior is so variable, other kinds of behavior show similar variability.

If people want to dislike certain behaviors or condemn due to religious or moral considerations then that is their business. Just don't invoke Biology, cause it ain't on your side.

Quote from: JetSwingdo you really need to experiment to know you're ghey or not?

Do you really need to ride a motorcycle to know if you're a motorcyclist or not?  Maybe, maybe not, but you'll certainly know for sure if you try.

Quote from: JetSwingrg, what you have done in college was result of peer pressure.

I would say your knee-jerk reaction against homosexuality is due to peer pressure.  The way in which you phrased it is telling.  It's a locker-room macho thing, not a "how do I really feel" thing.  "I don't fall in love with men" is a straight man's thought.  "I ain't a-gonna let no man have sex with me!" is a socialized person's thought.

Quote from: callmelennyPeople need to realize that biological sex and sexual behavior are two different things.

Dingdingdingding!

You see all kinds of sexual behavior in the 'natural' world.  You have societies where the male is king and has a troupe of females; you have societies where the female is king and has a troupe of males.  You have sex outside of fertile periods for bonding purposes.  You have homosexuality for bonding purposes (bonobos).  You have masturbation (lower primates).  You have hemaphrodites.  Yadda.  You can't point to the 'natural' world to say that straight marriage and man-on-top is the way it 'should' be.

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Quote from: JetSwingwhy are you born a female, i a male? that's the law of nature. otherwise we'll all be one gender and hump whoever you want.

if you say you're born ghey, that's fine but if you say you want to be a ghey for a couple of days just for the kicks, that's just wrong.

Any time someone says "law of nature" I get cranky. :x

People need to realize that biological sex and sexual behavior are two different things. Sex in mammals is usually straight forward, a simple chromosome difference explains it. There are plenty of people with chromosome abnormalities that may be considered  intersex but lets ignore that for now.

Sexual behavior on the other hand is highly variable. If we look to nature for our laws, then homosexuality, bisexuality, polyamory, incest, rape, and necrophillia should all be considered normal. I'm not equating all these things a la Santorum, just pointing out that many behaviors that some people consider deviant are quite common and normal in the natural world. We shouldn't be surprised that sexual behavior is so variable, other kinds of behavior show similar variability.

If people want to dislike certain behaviors or condemn due to religious or moral considerations then that is their business. Just don't invoke Biology, cause it ain't on your side.

sorry, i did not mean bugs and insect when i said law of nature.
i mean what's "norm" for humans...like you can only reproduce when a man fucks a woman.

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hahaha...oh yea? how come we never see any action, huh??  :lol:

Because who would like dealing with people who say the same kinda shaZam! you do? Why make it worse than it has to be? Why start a fight over something that doesn't matter? My life is too busy to deal with that  :bs:

Quote from: ajgs500Ok so you dont want to that is fine whatever but if for some reason you had feelings for a guy or guys wouldn't you want to find out what it meant.  If you didnt that would be redicules.

aj, i have nothing against your sexual preference. i'm sure you don't want to hook up with a guy, right?

no you can only reproduce when a sperm joins an egg and there are many ways to do that

Quote from: JetSwingi mean what's "norm" for humans...like you can only reproduce when a man fucks a woman.

But genetic selection is not all about direct reproduction.  You see behaviors selected for that do not allow one to pass on one's own genes, but do improve the ability of relatives to.  Everyone reads about Mendel's peas and thinks that they're a geneticist.  But Mendel fudged his numbers - even his peas were not as simple as he made them out to be.

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hahaha...oh yea? how come we never see any action, huh??  :lol:

Because who would like dealing with people who say the same kinda shaZam! you do? Why make it worse than it has to be? Why start a fight over something that doesn't matter? My life is too busy to deal with that  :bs:

of course it matters. otherwise, i wouldn't be having this argument, i mean discussion in the first place.

Quote from: ajgs500no you can only reproduce when a sperm joins an egg and there are many ways to do that

not in a natural way...sure, we can alter the nature

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Quote from: JetSwingi mean what's "norm" for humans...like you can only reproduce when a man fucks a woman.

But genetic selection is not all about direct reproduction.  You see behaviors selected for that do not allow one to pass on one's own genes, but do improve the ability of relatives to.  Everyone reads about Mendel's peas and thinks that they're a geneticist.  But Mendel fudged his numbers - even his peas were not as simple as he made them out to be.

peas? i hate peas  :P

reproduction was just one example...

well butthead it is not "natural" to me.

Quote from: ajgs500well butthead it is not "natural" to me.

did i say anything about you?

Um not directly but when you talk about homosexuality that well includes me duh

Quote from: JetSwingnot in a natural way...sure, we can alter the nature

Define "natural way."

If you look at the way the human body is designed, it is not 'natural' at all for it to walk upright.  It's a four-legged design (hence, our problems with the lower back and instep).

Peeing in a toilet isn't natural.

Cooking food isn't natural.

Cutlery is highly unnatural.

The smell of sweat is natural.  Our dislike for the reek after days is 'unnatural.'

it's interesting seeing people's reactions to homosexuality, which is possibly the most harmless "deviant" behaviour imaginable.

personally, i've never been attracted to a guy.  i've met guys who i thought were damn pretty, but that was more of a case of envying their looks than being attracted to them.

now, i always keep in the back of my head that maybe i've just never met the right guy, but considering the overwhelming attraction i have to females vs. my to-this-date complete lack of interest in guys, i'm figuring the chances are slim.

i've accepted that there's nothing wrong with homosexuals for as long as i can remember, and at some point hanging around ghey friends realized that i was no longer grossed out.

if i see ghey porn, i'm going to look away, but i'm kind of amused by the way most guys make a huge show of jerking their heads in the other direction and saying something like "oh my god, that's the sickest thing i've ever seen, i think i'm going to throw up now."   when they say that i can't help but think, "methinks the lady doth protest too much."

on a similar note, i'm amused by how so many guys feel a need to constantly assert and affirm their maleness.  as for me, i've got irrefutable biological proof that i'm a man, and therefore don't feel i need to go out of my way to "act" like one.


-will

Quote from: ajgs500Um not directly but when you talk about homosexuality that well includes me duh

you duh...if you have actually read my posts, not even once i was condemning homosexuality in itself. go back and read  :P

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Quote from: JetSwingnot in a natural way...sure, we can alter the nature

Define "natural way."

If you look at the way the human body is designed, it is not 'natural' at all for it to walk upright.  It's a four-legged design (hence, our problems with the lower back and instep).

rg, you're very smart girl...so it's not like you to say something that stupid. just because we have a four limbs doesn't mean it's four legged design. i think that's why our hands and feet look and function differently.

the lower back issue is the gravity  ;)

Well if you never condemned it you at least contradicted yourself numerous times.  So if you dont think it is moral than how are you not at least in a little way not condemning it???

Quote from: ajgs500Well if you never condemned it you at least contradicted yourself numerous times.  So if you dont think it is moral than how are you not at least in a little way not condemning it???

i said having ghey sex when you're not ghey is morally not right, that's all. i don't know how this thread's turn into to morality of homosexuality.  :dunno:

because people don't listen (read)!  :x

so in that case is it not morally wrong to eat chinese food when you are not chinese????  And would that also make it morally wrong to have straight sex if you are not straight?????

Quote from: JetSwingrg, you're very smart girl...so it's not like you to say something that stupid. just because we have a four limbs doesn't mean it's four legged design. i think that's why our hands and feet look and function differently.

the lower back issue is the gravity  ;)

Look at the skeletons of four-legged creatures.  Note the ribcage.  Note the spine - a very thin link between the ribcage and the pelvis, not designed to hold the weight of the upper body.  Now mentally straighten that four-legged skeleton, and you have the human body - a spine that is not designed to hold the upper body, a pelvis that is no longer ideally positioned for its purposes (childbirth being a big one), and our heels hit the ground - hence, arch problems.

We evolved opposable thumbs while we were still as much on all-fours as not (look at our simian relatives), and neotony made our toes vestigial.  Even in a cat or a shrew, the hind and the forelimbs look and function differently - that's nothing special to us.

I have way, way, way more biology under my belt than you do, m'dear. :)

OMG...  You all need to get laid...  Sex is good for relaxation and it helps your immune system.


So, stop arguing about sex and go have some.   :thumb:

is anyone offering hehehe

Quote from: RVertigoSo, stop arguing about sex and go have some.

Just make sure the other person isn't your gender if you're straight.  Request a birth certificate, if necessary.   :P

yeah you know those damn trannys  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :?

Ok, let's see what  fuel I can add to the fire  8)

Firstly...

Quote from: ajgs500redicules.

One word AJ: Ridiculous. R-I-D-I-C-U-L-O-U-S. Do I need to start another thread for Ridiculous?? Being a spelling and grammar nazi does not always pay off, especially since no one is perfect, and it will eventually come back to bite you in the hind quarters.  :kiss:

JetSwing - You are arguing with a bunch of females who are homosexual, bisexual, or have been bi-curious. Do you think any of them are going to agree with you? It does not do any good to argue with a woman anyways, since they think they are always right. Especially Roadstergal, she can not be wrong about anything. Have you completely missed her previous 3000 posts?  :roll:

RVertigo - I agree that a good lay might calm down some people and get their "panties all in a bunch". I get laid enough, honestly, but it is Friday and it's been a long week so I could sure use a drink right about now!  :cheers:

SRSLY!  Sers Lee!

Sex!!  It's what's for dinner.

Quote from: PhaedrusJetSwing - You are arguing with a bunch of females who are homosexual, bisexual, or have been bi-curious. Do you think any of them are going to agree with you? It does not do any good to argue with a woman anyways, since they think they are always right. Especially Roadstergal, she can not be wrong about anything. Have you completely missed her previous 3000 posts?  :roll:

well, you do have a very good point. but i must confess...i also have an alternative motive. i want to be the pw of the week! it's amazing how many posts i racked up today  8)

so...i think i'll go try to take down rg  :P

hey rg, he thanks you!  :P

(http://www.variders.com/gs500/fourleggedman.jpg)

oh, i want to know where you've been learning biology from.

Well then in that case, carry on! Haha. I think you better pack a lunch though. She has an excellent command of the written language, rhetoric as sharp as a needle, and several admiring minions.  :cheers:

Quote from: PhaedrusWell then in that case, carry on! Haha. I think you better pack a lunch though. She has an excellent command of the written language, rhetoric as sharp as a needle, and several admiring minions.  :cheers:

bring it on!  8)

Quote from: JetSwingso...i think i'll go try to take down rg  :P

For something new, you could try rational discussion...   :dunno:

Quote from: indestructiblemanwhen they say that i can't help but think, "methinks the lady doth protest too much."

:thumb: Hey, bonus points for the source of that quote.


I think I'm the only one who doesn't bring up my post count whenever disputes arise. It's funny - I don't think post count lends one any credibility at all, but people bring it up as if I had ever pointed to them as a reason for credibility?

I wouldn't miss the post-count meter if it disappeared.

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Quote from: JetSwingrg, you're very smart girl...so it's not like you to say something that stupid. just because we have a four limbs doesn't mean it's four legged design. i think that's why our hands and feet look and function differently.

the lower back issue is the gravity  ;)

Look at the skeletons of four-legged creatures.  Note the ribcage.  Note the spine - a very thin link between the ribcage and the pelvis, not designed to hold the weight of the upper body.  Now mentally straighten that four-legged skeleton, and you have the human body - a spine that is not designed to hold the upper body, a pelvis that is no longer ideally positioned for its purposes (childbirth being a big one), and our heels hit the ground - hence, arch problems.

We evolved opposable thumbs while we were still as much on all-fours as not (look at our simian relatives), and neotony made our toes vestigial.  Even in a cat or a shrew, the hind and the forelimbs look and function differently - that's nothing special to us.

I have way, way, way more biology under my belt than you do, m'dear. :)

i just spoke to a friend who is a doctor. (i've decided that i needed a professional assistance 8) ). he's also an experienced surgeon.

here are his responses:

"that's crap"

"the human pelvis is tilted very differently from 4 legged animals"

"also, look at our necks, they're not meant to be tilted up and back like 4 legged animals"

"our necks are meant to be resting vertically, not horizontally"

"The majority of spinal abnormalities and back pain occur from poor posture or poor body mechanics.  Take for example the bones of the cervical spine.  Unless the head is held in an upright position, there is excessive strain on the muscles of the neck.  Also, in 4 legged animals, you tend to see more similarity between the lengths of the 4 extremities.  In typical human beings, the upper limbs are shorter than the lower limbs.  Even in non-human primates, the upper limbs are longer to allow for easier 4 limb ambulation.  The only time we should be on all 4's is if we're getting banged doggy style."

"Another distinguishing characteristic is the opposable thumb which even primates do not have.  Stop comparing humans to other animals.  Listen lady, you may look like a dog, but you're not.  Stop trying to make up excuses for the similarity."

"The other thing to look at is movement.  In human beings, the normal gait is pendular.  This is an efficient method of movement.  This would not be occuring were humans to get down on all fours and crawl around."

"Listen up beeatch...if you think we should be on all fours, get down and crawl around. I'll continue to walk upright like a human."

ok...i made up the last one   :P

ps. anus = exit

Quote from: JetSwing"The other thing to look at is movement.  In human beings, the normal gait is pendular.  This is an efficient method of movement.  This would not be occuring were humans to get down on all fours and crawl around."

So THAT must be why "Crab Soccer" is so much harder to play than regular soccer??  :mrgreen:

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Quote from: JetSwing"The other thing to look at is movement.  In human beings, the normal gait is pendular.  This is an efficient method of movement.  This would not be occuring were humans to get down on all fours and crawl around."

So THAT must be why "Crab Soccer" is so much harder to play than regular soccer??  :mrgreen:

haha...what's crab soccer?

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Quote from: indestructiblemanwhen they say that i can't help but think, "methinks the lady doth protest too much."

Hey, bonus points for the source of that quote.

Taming of the Shrew.

Quote from: RoadstergalI don't think post count lends one any credibility at all

I think it takes away more than anything.   :lol:

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Quote from: RoadstergalI don't think post count lends one any credibility at all

I think it takes away more than anything.   :lol:

yea, you outta know  :lol:

Quote from: JetSwinga doctor

Of what?   :lol:   He sounds like Doctor Ruth on a tear.

Humans evolved from 4-legged animals.  We've adapted to uprightness some, as I mentioned and as he implies, but that's how we started.

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Quote from: PostWhoreI think it takes away more than anything.   :lol:

yea, you outta know  :lol:

:thumb: I seem to be the expert on saying lots of nothing.    :mrgreen:

Quote from: RVertigoI seem to be the expert on saying lots of nothing.    :mrgreen:

I'm a talented amateur...

Quote from: RVertigoTaming of the Shrew.

Hamlet...  Gertrude says "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," when they're watching the-play-to-trap-the-king.

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Quote from: JetSwinga doctor

Of what?   :lol:   He sounds like Doctor Ruth on a tear.

Humans evolved from 4-legged animals.  We've adapted to uprightness some, as I mentioned and as he implies, but that's how we started.

oh goody! evolution vs creation! let's do it!

wait...maybe not  :nono:

ps. my friend, dr ruth doesn't believe in evolution.

Quote from: JetSwingps. my friend, dr ruth doesn't believe in evolution.

Although the syntax isn't clear, you're saying your ranting friend is a creationist?  :lol:  It certainly makes more sense of the ranting.

BTW, since the point is being lost in minutae, I'll re-state it - you were talking about 'unnatural' things.  I made the point that a lot of very good things can be considered 'unnatural.'  E.g., we evolved from four-footed animals (OK, except for your friend; if he insists, we'll say he devolved from them); our move from four legs to two can be considered as unnatural as anything conservatives rant about as being 'unnatural.'  We're the only mammals that made that move, after all.

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Quote from: JetSwingps. my friend, dr ruth doesn't believe in evolution.

Although the syntax isn't clear, you're saying your ranting friend is a creationist?  :lol:

no comment  :roll:

Quote from: RoadstergalBTW, since the point is being lost in minutae, I'll re-state it - you were talking about 'unnatural' things.  I made the point that a lot of very good things can be considered 'unnatural.'  E.g., we evolved from four-footed animals (OK, except for your friend; if he insists, we'll say he devolved from them); our move from four legs to two can be considered as unnatural as anything conservatives rant about as being 'unnatural.'  We're the only mammals that made that move, after all.

point? i didn't think there were points in any of our arguments. if there were, they got lost when the "submit" button was pressed.

besides, winning debate = lost victory

just look what happened to john kerry  ;)

Quote from: RoadstergalHamlet...  

Whatever...   :roll:

Shakespeare was a lasbian anyway.

Quote from: RVertigoShakespeare was a lasbian anyway.

He was always late.  But for his French friends, that was bien.

Quote from: RoadstergalHamlet...  Gertrude says "The lady doth protest too much, methinks," when they're watching the-play-to-trap-the-king.

i just got the dvd of Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead

Shakespeare was cool 400 years ago.

Quote from: RVertigoShakespeare was cool 400 years ago.

Ya, kinda like parachute pants  :P

Actually was Shakespeare "cool" in his time? I have heard that he was pretty controversial; a lot of people weren't really into him and believed that someone else was actually writing his works and using his name as a disguise (since Shakespear was a commoner). Who knows.  :dunno:

Parachute pants aren't cool anymore?   :(

Shakespeare is kinda like The Doors for me...

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cool when I first got into it...  Then one day I woke up and realized that it's actually crap.   :dunno:

Quote from: JetSwinghaha...what's crab soccer?

You have never played crab soccer? Has anyone else here ever played it? We played it in school gym class a lot. You get a big beach ball and play "soccer" with it, but you don't stand upright. You "walk" on your hands AND feet, with your butt facing the ground. You kinda like like a crab, I guess  :dunno: You kick the beach ball with your feet, and it is tricky because...

...our bodies are not designed nor accustomed to walking in such a way  ;)

Rich in case you missed it jetwsing spelled ridicules several times redicules and I was just making a jab at him. :lol:  :lol:

Quote from: ajgs500Rich in case you missed it jetwsing spelled ridicules several times redicules and I was just making a jab at him. :lol:  :lol:

this woman is lying

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Quote from: ajgs500So jetwing tell me how u know u r ghey?????

i know i'm not ghey because i will break the neck of any guy who tries shove his pee pee up my ass so fast that he's gonna wish he kept his pee pee away from me.

or should i give it a try just to be sure...? come on, that's rediculous.

Really????

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Quote from: JetSwing

Quote from: ajgs500So jetwing tell me how u know u r ghey?????

i know i'm not ghey because i will break the neck of any guy who tries shove his pee pee up my ass so fast that he's gonna wish he kept his pee pee away from me.

or should i give it a try just to be sure...? come on, that's rediculous.

Really????

aj, how will you dig yourself out of this one?

ridiculous != ridicules

maybe dropping out of grade school weren't such a good idea  :P

besides, do you expect me to spell very word correctly when i'm under seize (4 to 1) by lesbian loving, four-legged ladies?

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Quote from: Onlypastrana199...it might help if you could spell lesbian  :P  searches usually work best that way

My thought eaxctly +1 :thumb:  :thumb:  :thumb:

btw, it's e - x - a - c - t - l - y

None of that crap is important.  :lol: The important thing is...

HAS ANYONE PLAYED CRAB SOCCER?

Quote from: PhaedrusNone of that crap is important.

:thumb:


I've played crab soccer...is it a NY thing? Can't be.

Yeah, that is what I am trying to figure out. It doesn't seem like it would be a NY thing. But no one else seems to be chiming in..hehe.

Kinda like, does anyone have a cellar or do they all have basements?  :roll:

i went to school in ny till high school...never played crab soccer. played dodgeball, kickball, football but not crab soccer.

maybe it's a upstate thing?  :mrgreen:

i think i'm gonna like crab soccer  8)

(http://www.q101.com/pics/photogalleries/single_photo/woody_anna_k_soccer.jpg)

haha, YUP that is it! Only we used a beachball, but thats plenty close enough.  8)

I think I am going to organize a game between myself, Pastrami, and AJ.  :kiss:

I played crab soccer in gym class during elementary school. I kicked ass at it. I was a nimble little kid. I'm getting rickity in my old age, though.

Quote from: indestructiblemani just got the dvd of Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead

I was in line for that.  I love that version.  "If the sun is actually over there... then it's the afternoon..."

alright so now its the purple lesbien crap soccer thread.  But i played in grade school.  Liked dodgeball better.  Something about throwing a ball very hard at someones head just made me happy.

Quote from: natedawg120alright so now its the purple lesbien crap soccer thread.  But i played in grade school.  Liked dodgeball better.  Something about throwing a ball very hard at someones head just made me happy.

:o  IDK what kinda soccer you were playing but I certainly wasn't playing that!

Quote from: PhaedrusYeah, that is what I am trying to figure out. It doesn't seem like it would be a NY thing. But no one else seems to be chiming in..hehe.

Kinda like, does anyone have a cellar or do they all have basements?  :roll:

. ive got both. a wine cellar in my basement :cheers:

Jetswing if you dont get it I sure dont have time to explain it to you

Quote from: ajgs500Jetswing if you dont get it I sure dont have time to explain it to you

that was the only come back i had  :dunno:

Remember Dodgeball is a game of violence, exclusion and degradation.  So always pick the bigger stronger kids so you can all gang up on the weaker kids, like Winston here.......

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Quote from: indestructiblemani just got the dvd of Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead

I was in line for that.  I love that version.  "If the sun is actually over there... then it's the afternoon..."

Rosencrantz And Guildenstern Are Dead is way cool.  This thread is pretty lame, though.

Quote from: thirdmanThis thread is pretty lame, though.

No one is making you post in it  :P

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Quote from: thirdmanThis thread is pretty lame, though.

No one is making you post in it  :P

I'm the guy that goes around asking "Is it hot enough for ya??" on 110 degree days.

Quote from: thirdmanI'm the guy that goes around asking "Is it hot enough for ya??" on 110 degree days.

:nana:  :guns:  :nana:  :guns:

I hate you! :mrgreen:

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Quote from: RVertigoShakespeare was a lasbian anyway.

He was always late.  But for his French friends, that was bien.

hmmm, i'll be damned, i always thought he was a Thesbien" :oops:  :thumb:  :dunno:  :cheers: