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Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 01, 2005, 08:15:14 PM
I should be finishing up my 89 Katana project soon so I was thinking about what my next project might be.  

I would like the next bike to be more of an investment so I was wondering what you guys think are the classic japanese bikes of the last 20 years or so.

Here's some of the ones I was thinking:

Katana 1100S
FZR Genesis bikes
Honda Hawk GT

A friend of mine fixes up old Nortons as a hobby.  typically he puts about 3 or 4 g's into them and can sell them for more than that.  I'd like to do the same kind of thing but I'm not really into Brit bikes.

Wadda you guys think?
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: indestructibleman on November 01, 2005, 08:26:51 PM
ok, so this is more like 30 years old, but i still kind of miss my first bike

(http://flavoroftheweak.com/stuff/mullholland001fw.jpg)

1975 Honda CB550F.

the GS is a great deal more reliable though.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 01, 2005, 08:44:40 PM
The big time classic bikes that get a lot of cash are the 60's era honda 305 Dreams.  I almost picked up the scambler version of one a couple years ago, but didn't have the 100 bones in my pocket at the time or it would have been mine.

jake
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: davipu on November 01, 2005, 08:47:09 PM
honda's sl series
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 01, 2005, 08:49:29 PM
Ah yes we all love our first bikes.  mine is the GS.

Cool pic BTW.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 01, 2005, 08:55:01 PM
Quote from: jake42The big time classic bikes that get a lot of cash are the 60's era honda 305 Dreams.  I almost picked up the scambler version of one a couple years ago, but didn't have the 100 bones in my pocket at the time or it would have been mine.

jake

Yeah those are cool!
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Alphamazing on November 01, 2005, 09:18:19 PM
A 1979 Honda CBX. Those things are gorgeous.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: aaronstj on November 01, 2005, 09:23:41 PM
Anything from the Honda CB* series in the '70s is cool by me.  I love the looks of those bikes.  And you can get them supr cheap, too.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 01, 2005, 09:38:42 PM
Restored Dreams will fetch a good bit o' cash.  Look at Walnecks Classic Cycle Trader or at //vjmc.org

Jake
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 01, 2005, 09:42:50 PM
I love these bikes!
They were called Monster Killers.
(http://www.strappe.com/yam.jpg)

Jake
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on November 01, 2005, 09:45:09 PM
Quote from: indestructibleman

1975 Honda CB550F.

I just got one of those for free....
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Blueknyt on November 02, 2005, 07:19:15 AM
i like some of the older jap stuff, keep in mind, the GS is getting older every year, soon it will be classic.  bikes and cars unless WIDELY reconised as a classic(not all modles are) are kinda poor investments.  some make out, but many dont.  whats an endfeild bullet going for these days?
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 02, 2005, 07:43:15 AM
Quote from: Blueknyti like some of the older jap stuff, keep in mind, the GS is getting older every year, soon it will be classic.  bikes and cars unless WIDELY reconised as a classic(not all modles are) are kinda poor investments.  some make out, but many dont.  whats an endfeild bullet going for these days?

that's kind of what I'm looking for is what bikes would be considered classics now and in the future.  ie not just an old bike.  

For some reaon Nortons and brit bikes are undergoing a bit of a revival.  There was an article about this in the last CW magazine about the revival of the brit bike in NYC.  Back in the 60's the brit bike (Triumph I think) was made popular in the US by Marlon Brando.

The cool thing with Nortons is that you could actually build a brand new one with aftermarket parts.  Like I say though, my interest is in Japanese bikes.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Jake D on November 02, 2005, 10:07:13 AM
I like the old CB750 Super Sports.

Water Buffalo is cool too.

Who can find the link to the video of the guy chasing down the liter bikes on the Dragon on that vintage 2 stroke Kawi?  That bike was classic.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: RVertigo on November 02, 2005, 10:36:59 AM
Some sources for ya':  (They go down from time to time...)

http://www.suzukicycles.org/All-Suzuki/all_suzuki_models.html
http://100megsfree4.com/honda/

Some great bikes in there...  I'm partial to pre-70's ones...  Although a few 70's ones are really great.

'69 Suzuki T 500 II Titan!   :thumb:
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Jake D on November 02, 2005, 10:59:35 AM
My cousin has a 1980 Katana (1500 cc turbo).
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y69/jaked1166/jab.jpg)
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 02, 2005, 04:25:25 PM
DOH!!!

That is one awesome bike.  Yep I do like those 80's Katana's
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: pnaberhaus on November 02, 2005, 04:32:51 PM
)A classic?.......a (stocK) Honda 250 (CL-72) or 305(CL-77) Scrambler.
I bought a new red/grey '66 CL-77 in August of 1966 for a bit over $700. I sold it in August of '69 for $300. Nice examples are trading in the neighborhood of $4-7K! :o  If I ever find a decent one for a price that's not absurd, I'm gonna buy it.

The price appreciation aside, I think a CL-72/77 is a classic 'cause it's good looking (something the Honda Dream is not, ), had decent performance, and helped Honda's respectablity and made inroads with the Brit bike crowd ever so slowly and grudgingly. Don't dispute this, I was there in '66-'67-'68-'69 with this bike. That first year, some bikers didn't take a "Jap" bike seriously. But three years later, with no oil leaks, no electrical headaches, no starting problems, no parts availability difficulties, the sceptics were slowly seeing the design beauty and build quality apparant in my bike. Yeah, it's a classic and I want another one!
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 02, 2005, 04:50:22 PM
Cool, thanks for including your experience with those bikes.


(http://powersports.honda.com/Motorcycle_DCTM/Milestone/Images/MM_1965_CL77_cycle.jpg)
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: pnaberhaus on November 02, 2005, 04:59:46 PM
Rob,
Just like that except the frame, forks, r. shock covers, and centerstand were red, the early ones (mine) had single shoe f. brakes, and mine did not have that gawdawfull "guppy" silencer at the end of those lovely upswept twin pipes. I've got some old photographs of my '66 305 Scrambler, if I could just figure out a way to post them to this Forum. Anyway, thanks for the pic to show our fellow forum members what a "classic" looks like.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Old Mr. Wilson on November 06, 2005, 09:12:13 AM
Jake..........is that the RD350 Yamaha? I had one. 1975. Tangerine.
One screaming machine. Could take a stock Honda 750-4 cyl. about 1 link in the quarter mile. I loathe the day I sold it. The dude blew the engine in less than a month. It sounded like one huge pissed off bumble bee.
40 horse-6 speed-two stroke. Man that pix brought back some good memories. Thanks.

that bike would run like a scalded Buddha Loves You ape.........stoplight to stoplight I feared NOTHING...........but maybe another RD...maybe........:)
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 06, 2005, 10:29:53 AM
Quote from: 500riderCool, thanks for including your experience with those bikes.



that's almost hte exact bike i could have had if I had a 100 bucks in my pocket at the time.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 06, 2005, 10:31:56 AM
Quote from: Old Mr. WilsonJake..........is that the RD350 Yamaha? I had one. 1975. Tangerine.
One screaming machine. Could take a stock Honda 750-4 cyl. about 1 link in the quarter mile. I loathe the day I sold it. The dude blew the engine in less than a month. It sounded like one huge pissed off bumble bee.
40 horse-6 speed-two stroke. Man that pix brought back some good memories. Thanks.

that bike would run like a scalded Buddha Loves You ape.........stoplight to stoplight I feared NOTHING...........but maybe another RD...maybe........:)

Wilson,

That is the rd350.  My big bro had one when i was a kid. that thing was freakin' awesome. I've always wanted one. A student of mine had a complete 1975 and spare parts bike that she was going to sell me for 300 bucks.  I didn't do it becuase I had just gotten the GS.  I could kick myself. If I had the space I'd have a ton o' old bikes.

see the wall of fame for a pic of my ycs1--the precursor to the RD.

jake
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Chris_B on November 06, 2005, 02:11:18 PM
Kawi H2. $$$.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: jake42 on November 06, 2005, 04:16:21 PM
Quote from: Chris_BKawi H2. $$$.

as long as you're in a straight line.
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: MPA on November 06, 2005, 07:32:23 PM
a friend of mine found this bike in the garage of a house he bought. He had no title for it unfortunately and was able to find a parts bike w/ a title and transferred the best parts to the titled bike.  It's a '78 CB400T. He's trying to sell it to me w/ the parts bike as a first bike for $1000 but I want something a little more modern considering I was 5 when this was new :D

(http://webpages.charter.net/rhohn/DSC03321.JPG)
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: Onlypastrana199 on November 06, 2005, 07:52:17 PM
Quote from: MPAbut I want something a little more modern considering I was 5 when this was new


When this was new...I wasn't born yet and my parents were...11  :?  :lol:
Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 06, 2005, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Chris_BKawi H2. $$$.

Yeah a friend of mine mentioned the Kawi triple.  never seen one before. I googled it and they look cool.

Are they two strokes?  The pic I saw had that bulge in the pipe.

[edit] attaching pic

Title: What is a classic japanese bike?
Post by: 500rider on November 06, 2005, 09:05:39 PM
This bike is way cool too.  Also a two stroke triple.  Obvioulsy not stock.

(http://kawasakitriplesworldwide.com/tom%20pipes/gallery/ron_Nichols/P8120103.jpg)