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Ugh, I can't believe her... She knows how I jump on it every chance I get and yet... She wants to "move it" so as to "do me a favor." WTF? BIG RED FLAG #1. NOT LOGICAL. Next, she doesn't think it's very heavy. WTF? BIG RED ILLOGICAL FLAG #2. This is no bicycle we're talking about! Thing weighs almost 400lbs... Next, we're not exactly RICH so the damage done to it will have to go unrepaired for a while. MAJOR damage to the tranny, fairing decals, brake lever is BUSTED IN HALF, mirror and blinker all jacked up. Argh. And to top it all off... "YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO BE MAD AT ME. IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT." Yes dear, but you can't even hold up a Huffy (true fact), so what makes you think you can hold up a 400lb motorcycle? "I.. I DON'T KNOW BUT YOU SHOULDN'T BE MAD." No dear, I'm just mad that you forget to use your brain and refuse to think clearly sometimes and cost us lots of money that we don't have and break high priced toys. Argh...

Anyways, so now that I'm done ranting... Does anyone know where I can get any of those replacement parts cheap? I need a mirror, blinker, brake lever and the right side fairing decals. Replacing the tranny for cosmetic reasons is out of the picture. lol

Mirror. $10
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-05-SUZUKI-GS-500-RIGHT-MIRROR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35591QQitemZ4586605948QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWD1V

Lever (adjustable!). $20 (you can probably get one cheaper off someone on the board)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Suzuki-GS500-GS-500-RF-900-Bandit-600-1200-BRAKE-LEVER_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ10066QQitemZ4587702287QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Bummer 'bout the bike though. The tank didn't get dented? Man, you're lucky. I dropped mine and it got a little tank ping. Pissed me off because it was the first day I had it :(

That sucks. I found out how heavy it was the first night I rode it. I dropped it trying to do a walking turn around while on the bike. Only scratched my mirror though. Cause I can lift a Huffy.

Look at the bright side (or muse over a pleasant thought), at least it didn't fall on your wife and crush her.

That sucks man. But if you ask, everyone's got their story and it happens w/ bikes, my dad dropped mine. Esp the GS which a lot of people get as their 1st bike.
Don't give her too much greif, I don't think she meant to do any harm.

Yeah that sucks, dropped mine a total of twice.  Once parking on a side street, asphalt crumbled and bike fell to the right, as you sit on it resulting in a little scuff on the fairing.  Second time i was in a hurry hopped off and opps didn't put the kickstand down.  Caught it as it fell, realizing that it was heavy i layed her down very gently, then picked her back up resulting in no damage at all.

What favor was she doing by trying to move your bike?

I also like the "you have no right to be mad at me" response.  I get a laugh out of totally irrational defensive responses like that.  I KNOW I WAS WRONG BUT YOU CAN'T BE MAD AT ME DAMMIT!

What did she drop it on to cause major damage to the tranny?  A running chainsaw?

Well, look on the bright side - you won't feel bad for causing the first damage to your bike.    :P   Maybe that was the favor...

Quote from: phire"YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT TO BE MAD AT ME. IT WAS JUST AN ACCIDENT."

um, what?? :x   yes, it was an accident BUT you still have every right to be angry.  i sure hope she reacts accordingly when you have an accident with somethng that means a lot to her.

luckily for me, i'm the one that has to be careful with my gs cuz of its weight -- its like a toy for my boyfriend.

Get drunk and pee all over the front seat of her car and say "it was an accident, I couln't hold it!"

Or better yet just puke up on the dash of her car and make sure some gets down into the defroster vents. :P

I have already told my wife about touching MY bike.  If she were to try and move my bike I guess I would try and move her curio cabinet while all the stuff was in it.   :dunno:

My Grandpa always said revenge is sweet. :thumb:

Other option is making her a sex slave for the next year, my wife would probably rather make the repairs though :(

I see alot of ppl here have never been married...

A better tack is to mope around deppressed about it. Let her own guilt and mind inflict its own "punishment".

And you didn't damage the transmission. Just scratched the right hand engine cover.  Not that expensive even if you wanted to replace it with new (sand, bondo, & paint works better).

I have a left mirror  - $15.00 - includes shipping.

Shoot me an email if you are interested.

skohlmann1@wi.rr.com

hell, im married and my wife hass issues walking across the street on flat pavment.  dont know how someone can trip over nothing. ive put mine on a bike, had her walk it around abit just to get an idea of the weight and how to move it, even had her put around in the lower gears, but other then that she wont touch em as she is accident prone.  Stop loveing them? No, ANGRY WITH THEM YES!  kinda weird how they think they mean the same thing.

My wife has ran over so many things with her car you would not beleive it.  With her Civic she has had it around 18 months and she hit a couple curbs, backed into a bush, ran over a small parking curb and kept going, and the funniest is she was trying to paralell park and back into a boulder in front of the school where she works.  Boulder is approx 2.5 ft high and almost 4 ft long.  She said she did not see it :dunno:

That is the reason I am leary about letting her move my bike.

I ran my wife's GS over with HER civic one morning by accident.  
:oops:
She was very cool about it all things considered, which is why I suggested the earlier strategy...

So she had a wrecked bike and a wrecked car?

Wow

Quote from: JamesGI see alot of ppl here have never been married...

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:
This was -exactly- what I was thinking.

[marital_advice type="pithy" useless="true"]
I'd let it go.  Try, "I'm not mad at you, I'm upset about the situation."  I'd also recommend trying to make that a true statement...and try to not follow it with a sentence that starts with, "But..."
[/marital_advice]

Honestly, if my wife did that I'm sure she'd feel bad enough about it without me having to twist the knife.  Although...perhaps I'm just a sucker.  :roll:

twist the knife?  dont know about most of you but i get my bikes and cars cheap as they need work.  while some more then others, its alot of blood sweat and tears that go into getting and keeping US BOTH going.  my GS500 came in a box as a former track bike.  starting with bare frame i had to assembled mine from nuts and bolts.  when anything happens to a vehicle we own, its generaly a hardship on the household, when something happens for a stupid reasons, her fault or mine, I get bent.  granted im harder on myself then her but arrgg.

This is kinda crude, but next time your in bed with her (not sleeping ;), give her the the shocker and tell her she has no right to be mad at you because it was an accident  :thumb:

- Jeff (Never married :) )

Quote from: MPA- Jeff (Never married :) )

Obviously. :P  :lol:

I've never been married but I have plenty of experience with women. And I can tell you this:

DO NOT MAKE HER FEEL GUILTY ABOUT IT.

Sure it would be fun and all. For a few minutes. But you will pay for it over and over and over again.

Keep in mind, your odds of doing something incredibly stupid are WAY better than her odds of doing something stupid.  :lol:  You *will* do something far more stupid and she *will* find out and you *will* hear about it. You can't help it; it is in your genes.  :lol:

This is a good opportunity to show how 'sensitive' you are. Tell her you realize it was not her fault, that you love her, and that she is far more important than the bike.

It will earn you mega points, too.  :thumb:

you should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

what would you rather have, (broken bike and upset wife) or (broken bike and thankful wife)? that's an obvious choice.

After 25 years married still not an expert but....I agree with the last two posts...mercy & compasion the best policy in this case...maybe not right...but necessary.

Wow...men CAN learn!  :?




;)

Quote from: PhaedrusDO NOT MAKE HER FEEL GUILTY ABOUT IT.

+∞
She probably already feels bad enough.

Quote from: PhaedrusYou can't help it; it is in your genes.  :lol:

Damn busted Y chromosome.  :x

Quote from: PhaedrusTell her you realize it was not her fault, that you love her, and that she is far more important than the bike.

And:  don't start the very next sentence with, "But..."
:lol:

Listen to JamesG. He's a wise man.

You may not want to admit it...but one day you'll accidentally damage something important to her. Your reaction to this will be a determining factor in how she reacts when that happens.

I had my bike custom painted - detailed, expensive job. The tins weren't even on the bike yet, they were sitting on my work bench. My wife was futzing around near the tins, so I moved them. She got annoyed at me for "not trusting her around the stupid motorcycle". I told her I was just being cautious. She was rummaging through the toolbox next to the tins...I moved them again. She got annoyed. Then she reached up to the pegboard above the tank to grab a tool...and knocked a chain off a hook. Right on top of the freshly painted tank. I heard the clank, looked up, she said, "Freaking relax, I didn't scratch your precious bike.", then she looked down and said, "Oh shaZam!" and turned white as a sheet. The links wrapped around the tank and left little dimple chips in the paint...right over the edge of a custom airbrushed skull and flame. Can't fix that.

It gets better though. I was so mad I couldn't talk to her for fear of what might come out of my mouth. So I booted her from the garage and stayed out there working on my car til 4 am. Skipped dinner and everything. The next day she was mad at ME for "abandoning my family". That's rich, huh?

Anyhow, it truly was an accident. That's not to say I wasn't furious about it, but these things happen. The paint chips are still in my tank and I can tell she feels guilty about them every time she looks at the bike. And these days if she needs to work on something in the garage or the little guy wants to be out there, she asks me to put the bike in a safe place first.

And back to my original point. A month or so after that I was cleaning out the attic. I put a few boxes out back on the picnic table until I decided where to put them. I forgot about them overnight and we had an unexpected rain. One of the boxes was full of childrens books and mementos from when her son was a baby and a lot of them were ruined. Of course they're all irreplaceable. She really wasn't even mad at me because she knew it was an accident. She was sad and upset, cried a little bit - and never brought it up again. Of course I still feel a little guilty about it, but accidents happen. Fix the necessary mechanical bits on the bike and forget about it.

Quote from: octaneIt gets better though. I was so mad I couldn't talk to her for fear of what might come out of my mouth. So I booted her from the garage and stayed out there working on my car til 4 am. Skipped dinner and everything. The next day she was mad at ME for "abandoning my family". That's rich, huh?

I completely understand where she's coming from. To me, that "abandonment" is a pain worse than death. I'd rather have bamboo shoots driven under my fingernails than go through the "man shuts down completely/emotional abandonment" stuff. :(

Quote from: pandyWow...men CAN learn!  :?




;)

Um .... no ... men can remember ...  :thumb:  ...
Cool.
Srinath.

Quote from: Badger

Quote from: PhaedrusTell her you realize it was not her fault, that you love her, and that she is far more important than the bike.

And:  don't start the very next sentence with, "But..."
:lol:

:lol:  :thumb:

Quote from: seshadri_srinathUm .... no ... men can remember ...  :thumb:  ... Cool.Srinath.

:lol:

Well, guys remember? maybe, but learn seems a bit far yet... If that were true would I have a feeling these posts would be different than they are.

I am younger than most of the ppl on this board (20) so if you want attribute my post to my age.. But I still think that there are accidents and as much as it's painful to see (my bike has been downed by another as well) a dropped bike is fixable and rideable most of the time w/ minimal repairs.
It may not look 100% right away but I don't know about others but I get on the bike to ride and enjoy it, of course I take pride in the condition it's in but that is very secondary.
Out of all the things wrong "MAJOR damage to the tranny, fairing decals, brake lever is BUSTED IN HALF, mirror and blinker all jacked up." fix the brake lever and the rest is pure cosmetics.. Inless I'm missing something.

So I tend to agree w/ Phaedrus, JetSwing, and luksi's and others previous posts.

Quote from: DMacI am younger than most of the ppl on this board (20) so if you want attribute my post to my age.. But I still think that there are accidents and as much as it's painful to see (my bike has been downed by another as well) a dropped bike is fixable and rideable most of the time w/ minimal repairs.

You might be young, but you've got a good brain between your ears!!!  :thumb:

Quote from: JetSwingyou should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Man, this is why I'm still not married and will most likely not get married.

Quote from: leo

Quote from: JetSwingyou should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Man, this is why I'm still not married and will most likely not get married.

i'm not married either...but i'm smart  8)

I agree with JamesG, just be all down about your bike being damaged, but don't say anything to make her feel guilty.  Hopefully she'll think of something to make it up to you without being prodded, and then all is good :)

Now, if your wife truly loved you, she would have put her body between the bike and the pavement!  :lol: Nothing speaks of true love better than sacrificing oneself for the motorcycle! (Just ask Pablo!)

Quote from: leo

Quote from: JetSwingyou should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  Man, this is why I'm still not married and will most likely not get married.

I think this is the first SMART thing I've ever seen JetSwing say!!  :thumb:












:lol:  :kiss:

Quote from: phire... MAJOR damage to the tranny...

given that english is not my 1st language, I googled for 'tranny' and this is what I got:



how can you damage such a... thing?
what's the tranny anyway  :dunno:

Quote from: subc

Quote from: phire... MAJOR damage to the tranny...

given that english is not my 1st language, I googled for 'tranny' and this is what I got:



how can you damage such a... thing?
what's the tranny anyway  :dunno:

that's a hellova tranny alright...  :lol:

i don't know how a drop inflict "major damage" the the transmission  :dunno:

Quote from: subcgiven that english is not my 1st language, I googled for 'tranny' and this is what I got:how can you damage such a... thing? what's the tranny anyway  :dunno:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I agree with Phaedrus and Jetswing.  Of course I am trained.  But then again i love my GF and i don't care :P  :P .  When she drops my bike i will smile say its alright and run to the bedroom :lol:  :lol:

PS : been merried once, it sucked, but it was the wrong girl.

Quote from: subchow can you damage such a... thing?

Well, at least he said he isn't going to replace it for cosmetic reasons.

Quote from: pandy

Quote from: subcgiven that english is not my 1st language, I googled for 'tranny' and this is what I got:how can you damage such a... thing? what's the tranny anyway  :dunno:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I agree...    :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I love English sometimes.   :thumb:

Yeah... :lol: Anyways, there's quite a few points I'd like to reply to. You are all right about it being just an accident and it is of course just an accident. To which I told her that I was more mad at the situation than at her. Even though there was no real reason to have it moved (I think she was just trying to show off to her friends but didn't want to admit that), I was only ticked that she didn't decide that it would be "better" to just ask me. But anyways, twenty minutes later I was cooled off and appologized for being a dickhead about it. I was just mad that she would think so carelessly when $ doesn't flow freely right now. It is just a peice of equipment which CAN be fixed unlike a box of priceless pictures left in the rain. Which, that was sad that that happened, octane. :( But, here in a few weeks money should be much more abundant so I'll have her lookin like new. I should remember Murphy's Law with a brand new bike... That's the price/chance you take when you ride something in brand new condition. Oh well, guess I knew the risks...

Anyhoo, for the mirror, blinker, brake lever and new fairing decals it will cost $80 from the dealership. I was surprised. I figured at least $200. $80 is quite affordable compared to what I was expecting. Aaaaand besides, even if it was $200 it's no big deal really. Like I said, it's just cosmetics... Way to stuff my own shoe in my mouth.  :oops:

And Pandy, I didn't give her the abandonment treatment. I only do that when I catch her cheating or lying to me about something major.  :guns: Whole 'nother can, though.  :)

Quote from: Jetswingyou should have apologize for putting the bike at the wrong spot.

The bike didn't need to be moved which helped fuel my anger over the situation. I had my van parked in the street which she has keys to and her friend was parked in the street as well. She just wanted to take "her car" to go to Hallmark and back.  :dunno: So, there were two other options if she truly didn't wanna bother me but like I said earlier, I think she was just tryin to show off for her friends and just didn't want to admit that. I probably wouldn't either...

Quote from: TurkinaHopefully she'll think of something to make it up to you without being prodded, and then all is good Smile

:lol: She actually agreed to wash and wax the bike. That's a two hour job! But she doesn't have to do anything to make it up to me. shaZam! happens.

Quote from: TurkinaNow, if your wife truly loved you, she would have put her body between the bike and the pavement!

:lol: If I was on someone else's bike, that's what I'd do.

I'm about to go on a major tangent here, be forewarned.

The OP's wife was dicking around with his bike for whatever reason and dropped it, doing a good amount of damage.  OK - not the end of the world.  Were I in his shoes, I would be angry, yes, but her response -- "you can't be angry at me for this" -- is basically a denial of responsibility for the situation, and that is what makes me hot under the collar just reading about it.

No responsible adult should hold a grudge over an accident, but women seem to get away with it a lot more than men.

Here comes the tangent, and I'm gonna get flamed for it: there is a HUGE double standard in favor of the woman in a relationship (talking about hetero relationships here, sorry :P) whenever an argument or disagreement arises.  Women will hold a grudge/remember any mistake the man makes and use it to guilt trip him whenever it is convenient.  Men must quickly forgive any mistakes the woman makes or we're being irrational or selfish.  I'd go so far as to say that women get a pass on 80% of all arguments that start over a poor decision on their part, while men not only have to sit there and take it when it's our turn to get chewed out, but also get to look forward to being reminded of our mistakes years down the road.

I will provide a personal example, and I think you will find yourself hard pressed to not find it similar to situations you've been in.  Other examples in this thread fit the theme, too.

My story: I was doing laundry, trying to be a good guy and pitch in around the house.  I sort all the clothes appropriately and start the wash.  Three loads later, I'm folding the darks and realize that my girlfriend's favorite wool sweater made it into the dryer, and is now a good fit for the concrete garden gnome in the neighbor's yard.  

This is the first and only piece of my girlfriend's clothing that I have ever mangled in the laundry.  Up to this point in our relationship, she had ruined at least 3 of my shirts, a sweater, and a pair of pants in various ways (washing whites with colors + then drying them, washing and drying dry-clean only slacks, etc.).  Because dry-clean only clothes had been ruined this way before, we would put all the dry-clean and delicate stuff in a separate hamper in our closet; the sweater in question was in the wrong hamper.  

OK, I think -- I've got two outs here.  I will simply explain what happened, apologize and promise to replace the sweater, and all will be well.  No; instead, I was sternly talked to for over half an hour for not having paid enough attention, being careless, etc.  When I brought up that this was the first of her clothing that I'd ruined, while she had ruined a fair amount of mine, the response I received was "DONT YOU EVEN GO THERE".  For the next year (until we broke up), if I put a load of laundry in the wash, Jen would ask me if I checked for any dry-clean only stuff in that load.  Meanwhile, she shrank two more pairs of my wool slacks by mixing the dry-clean and washable piles together.  I could not mention this fact to her without getting the evil eye.

Moral: I had to let my gf off the hook for her mistakes, but I was to be held accountable for my mistakes until the end of creation.

My lovely wife is a much more rational person than Jen ever was, and doesn't rib me about my mistakes too often.  She's not totally above it though - not too long ago I broke my glasses by sitting on them after I lost them in the couch.  Now every time I forget where I've put them, I hear "you didn't sit on them again, did you?"  I occasionally return fire  -- last summer she backed into a light pole in a parking lot, folding up her rear bumper + deck lid, so if I'm with her while she's backing out of a parking spot, I'll usually whip out the old "watch out for that pole!" bit.

My relationship with my wife seems to be unique among the guys I know, though.  If their wives or girlfriends want to win an argument, they can either turn on the water works, or spout some completely illogical crap (YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE ANGRY AT ME) and then walk out of the room.  The second option is usually followed by the cold shoulder for a day or two.

And there, my friends, is the heart of the double standard.  A woman can trump almost any argument by denying her partner her company and physical affection.  If a man does the same, he is abandoning the relationship (see octane's post a few above mine).  She who controls the booty controls the relationship.  And people wonder why there's a market out there for RealDolls!

I'm thankful every day that my wife and I respect each other enough to not play silly little games.

Quote from: phireAnyhoo, for the mirror, blinker, brake lever and new fairing decals it will cost $80 from the dealership. I was surprised. I figured at least $200. $80 is quite affordable compared to what I was expecting. Aaaaand besides, even if it was $200 it's no big deal really. Like I said, it's just cosmetics... Way to stuff my own shoe in my mouth.  :oops:

i'm glad you came to your senses...:thumb:

i was kinda worry that your tranny might be badly damaged :lol:

when the wind knock down my bike, it had done close to $300 damage. 2 $60 barend mirrors busted, one of the $80 barends busted, $60 bike cover ripped, $20 lever snapped...and paint chip on the tank, scratch on the engine cover. the worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind... :(

Quote from: Jazzzzz(until we broke up)...

Mucho important point here: she was the wrong girl for you. She was obviously a control freak.  :dunno:

Quote from: JazzzzzShe who controls the booty controls the relationship.  And people wonder why there's a market out there for RealDolls! I'm thankful every day that my wife and I respect each other enough to not play silly little games.

Sounds as though you've been in some real doozies of relationships. She who controls the booty either is a control freak or has a wuss for a man.  :nana: It's nice to think people outgrow the games, but I've seen some middle-aged folks still at it.  :lol:

Fortunately, we're all in control of our destinies. If we don't like the person with whom we have a relationship, we have the choice to find someone more to our liking! ;)

Quote from: JetSwingthe worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind... :(

:bs: I think you should have given the wind the cold shoulder and witheld the boo-tay!  :nana:

Quote from: pandy

Quote from: JetSwingthe worse thing about was i couldn't blame the wind... :(

:bs: I think you should have given the wind the cold shoulder and witheld the boo-tay!  :nana:

i don't know...the wind was very pushy and howling like a Buddha Loves You that day... :(

Quote from: JetSwingi don't know...the wind was very pushy and howling like a Buddha Loves You that day... :(

Well, howl back, ya' ol' windbag! :P  :kiss:

THANKYOU..    been trying to post here 3x and damn PC kept crashing

"You cant be mad at me for this"   your jokeing.  i didnt read anywhere that she was asked to move a motorcycle that she didnt NEED moved.  i cant say i would blow up but falling bikes could hurt those around them too and would be abit miffed over Both

and with Octane,   "dont trust Me around your stupid motorcycle"  jealous over a motorcycle (no offense Oct)?    He knowing there is a chance on an accident MOVES the items to prevent it not once but twice and still she manages to do the deed, "relax i didnt scratch your freakin paint"  Malishious? no,   but that is no longer an accident, its CARELESS   and then has the GALL to claim him staying in the garage and burning up his anger doing something contructive to keep from posibly snapping off and saying something worse in anger . she acuses him of abandenment? Sir, my hat is off to you.   while ive held on to my temper in the past over such events, that would have been a flip of the coin to hold that one back. that comment would have been a major and unwarrented slap in my face.  

im not perfect. i get things wrong too.  90% of the time i will back up and apologise or at the very least say "its happend,its done, leave it alone"

but i have found that im held accountable for all my wrongs, big or small. while with most wemen they demand forgiveness, they expect No or feel they dont deserve rebuffing for thier  Mistakes/Accidents.

My wife and i have been through alot in our time, most the time an uphill battle.  there are times, with us both headstrong as we are,  she will storm off and not say a thing to me Unless dealing with household or our son (business only but curtious) for a day.  God forbid if i try and talk it out. But if i feel im ready to pop my cork if i walk away or go for a ride and not say anything to her (outside of house/son) for more then an hour.   Its not just her its every woman i have personaly known in my life,  they can be angry with us and MUST be left to thier own devices, solitude or 5 more rounds of Bitching. but I cant shut them out for a breif moment in time to get myself right.     yeah, how selfish and inconsiderate of me.

Fact, the wemen folk who listen to country music have heard this one before by Terri Clark


Last night we went to bed not talking
Cause we already said to much
I face the wall you faced the window
Bound and determined not to touch

We've been married 7 years now
Some days if feels like 21
I'm still mad at you this morning
Coffee's ready if you want some
I've been up since 5
Thinking about me and you
And I've got to tell you
The conclusion I've come to

I'll never leave, I'll never stray
My love for you will never change
But I ain't ready to make up or get around to that
I think I'm right I think your wrong
I'll probably give in before long
Please don't make me smile
I just want to be mad for awhile

For now you might as well forget it
Don't run your fingers through my hair
Yeah that's right I'm being stubborn
No I don't want to go back upstairs
I'm going to leave for work
Without a goodbye kiss
But as I'm driving off
Just remember this

I'll never leave, I'll never stray
My love for you will never change
But I ain't ready to make up or get around to that
I think I'm right I think your wrong
I'll probably give in before long
Please don't make me smile
I just want to be mad for awhile

Venus and Mars I guess. No offense taken Blueknight. There's some frequent tension in my house over the cars, bikes, racing, wrenching because the wife resents the amount of time I put into it. I try to balance it all the best I can and spend time doing the things that are important to her, we just enjoy different things. We knew that before we were married, but I guess we figured that we loved each other for our similarities and differences and would be able to balance it all. Time will tell I guess. It goes in cycles of tension to complete understanding - usually in association with the amount of outside stress in our lives. She's almost passive-aggressive about it though. Most of my higher quality or big ticket tools have been birthday or Christmas gifts from her, so she's supportive in the sense that she recognizes how passionate I am about my hobbies and wants me to enjoy it. But on the other hand she hates that races and track days are on weekends when she wants the family to be out picking pumpkins or something and she hates going to bed alone on Saturday night because I'm out in the shop building something.

And Pandy...the emotional abandonment may hurt women's feelings, but I assure you it wasn't as hurtful as the words I was swallowing that afternoon!

Which brings me to my next point...Jazzz, I hear what you're saying about the double standard and the arguments. My wife remembers everything I've ever done or said that hurt her feelings back to the day we met - even some things that at the time I had no idea had hurt her feelings. But I couldn't come up with a single example of something she did to upset me or piss me off that happened more than 48 hours ago. THAT is why men lose arguments with their wives. She'll start rattling off crap that I'm not even sure ever happened and I can't come up with a single situation to combat it....short of the motorcycle incident, which is unfortunately irrelevant in 99.9% of fights and would only appear desperate. That short term memory is the reason I can't win a fight with my wife. Half the time when we argue, by the time we're done she's got ME thinking I'm an @$$hole.

Octane, you need to start remembering better! Hold grudges and brood over things more like she does and then maybe you'll start winning some arguments! :lol: I'm basically the same way as you are... I don't remember most of the things my wife has done to offend me because after I'm done being mad and moved on... I don't care anymore... It's OVER and done with. However, what I've gotten good at is truly thinking about her side of the story and trying to understand where she's coming from with her argument. Picking out things she's done that are similar doesn't often work and only leads to a justification battle. Anyways, after trying hard to understand where she's coming from, and only after she's helped me to understand where she's coming from so that I can make my case appropriately do I decide to admit I'm wrong or find huge gaping logic holes in her argument. Not to sound like an arrogant prick or anything, but most of the time she secedes from the argument admitting fault or being irrational. Though, what gets my goat is that after she does secede and we both GET OVER the problem together (I don't let the argument die until she's said everything she wants to), she will still be upset about it again later on! WTF?!  :x  :bs:

So, moral of the story is.... Take it in the ass like a man and chalk it up as another "female experience." And for those of you men who don't have these kinds of problems...  :guns: Seriously.  :nana:

:roll: We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...


...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

Quote from: Onlypastrana199:roll: We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...

...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

That's the attitude I'm talking about.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199:roll: We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...

But then how do you decide who gets to be wrong?  Flip a coin?  Take turns? ("Everything will be my fault on weekends and alternate Thursdays.")  :dunno:

this thread officially has gone lesbien...it took long enough...!

...ok I don't think I have ever reacted in a "you can't be mad at me but I'm going to hold a grudge against you for something you did" way in ANY relationship I've ever been in. In fact a couple times its been the opposite. I understand where you're coming from though.

Quote from: Onlypastrana199:roll: We could all just be lesbians...then you wouldnt have to deal with it...


...course you wouldn't be getting any either :nana:

^^^ = part of life. It's really the women that wear the pants because ultimately, the man will get horny at some point and cave in to any demand she wishes. And actually, I don't mind lesbians... I just want to watch. :( Yeah, so I'm a perverted POS, but hey at least I admit it. ;)

Quote from: Onlypastrana199...ok I don't think I have ever reacted in a "you can't be mad at me but I'm going to hold a grudge against you for something you did" way in ANY relationship I've ever been in. In fact a couple times its been the opposite. I understand where you're coming from though.

Well, of course you wouldn't react that way. It's YOUR perspective and you're not that illogical. But from someone else's perspective, you might have. BTW, I stress might.  :P So, please refrain from chopping my balls off. I do indeed value them!  :lol:

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Don't worry your balls are safe.  I think its just that I don't get mad...unless of course you're my little brother, then I get pissed when you back the BMW I just bought you into my bike (in a garage no less he had to aim to hit it) and upon hearing the noise continue to drive backwards, and even then I was only mad for a little while and just picked my bike up, went and got on one that wasn't broken and went for ride....Rides cure everything...when people are mad they should just go for rides lol But seriously..what does being mad get you? Higher blood pressure thats all.

I think that what we have here is as much--if not more--about levels of maturity, rather than male/female issues.

I try to be VERY careful not to spew hateful things if my bf and I have a tiff. He does the same; in fact, I can't remember a hateful, mean thing he's ever said (other than he thinks I like curbs a lot and can't drive  :guns:  :lol: ).

Maybe we're just too old to be bothered with fighting dirty.  :dunno:  :nana:   :mrgreen:

Quote from: pandyI think that what we have here is as much--if not more--about levels of maturity, rather than male/female issues.

+1  :thumb:

Quote from: Onlypastrana199:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Don't worry your balls are safe.  I think its just that I don't get mad...unless of course you're my little brother, then I get pissed when you back the BMW I just bought you into my bike (in a garage no less he had to aim to hit it) and upon hearing the noise continue to drive backwards, and even then I was only mad for a little while and just picked my bike up, went and got on one that wasn't broken and went for ride....Rides cure everything...when people are mad they should just go for rides lol But seriously..what does being mad get you? Higher blood pressure thats all.

One day you will have serious psychological issues if you keep suppressing your anger. :/ Anger levels are something you're born with or raised with. But, some level of thinking goes into being mad as well. Such as making sure the offending party is more careful next time! Although, name calling and belittling is unnecessary and does nothing but turn you into an @$$hole so don't get the two mixed up. :P

lol its called jujitsu, I acknowledge my feelings I just discuss them in a rational manner...after I go beat the crap outta my sparing partner  :mrgreen:

Quote from: Onlypastrana199:lol:  :lol:  :lol: Don't worry your balls are safe.  I think its just that I don't get mad...unless of course you're my little brother, then I get pissed when you back the BMW I just bought you into my bike (in a garage no less he had to aim to hit it) and upon hearing the noise continue to drive backwards, and even then I was only mad for a little while and just picked my bike up, went and got on one that wasn't broken and went for ride....Rides cure everything...when people are mad they should just go for rides lol But seriously..what does being mad get you? Higher blood pressure thats all.

Can I be your brother?  I'll make sure I'm more careful with the BMW  :lol:

Lesbians are just as catty and hold grudges just as well as any other woman  :nana: Lately, I've had a chance to observe: "Lesbians! Now with extra drama!!"  :roll:

lol it wasn't a new BMW, its an '88 528e

Quote from: Onlypastrana199lol it wasn't a new BMW, its an '88 528e

Sweet, something to wrench on!   :thumb: I think it's cooler to roll up in an old BMW than be one of the mindless wannabes with a new one  :)

Same engine as my old 325e... great engine, runs forever (300K+), very fuel-efficient if it's in reasonable tune, torquey.

BMW had a couple of funky-ass badgings in their otherwise very rational naming scheme.  The 528e and 325e had the same 2.7L engine; the 323i and Z3 2.3i had 2.5Ls.  Probably to differentiate them from the 328i and Z3 2.8i; easier to sell a 500cc difference than a 300cc.

He drove that car like 4 miles that day and it decided to burst into flames, i bought him all the parts he needed for his birthday last month....

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Quote from: pandyI think that what we have here is as much--if not more--about levels of maturity, rather than male/female issues.

+1  :thumb:

+2.

I jokingly (It'd be funny as hell though :D ) said to give her the shocker and tell her she can't be mad at that :) I'm not one to argue for the sake of arguing, being made because life's too short to hold a grudge over something that was an accident and just try to be honest with whatever girl I am with and try to talk out any problems we have like adults.

If I am angry I will get in my car and take a ride depending on my anger level. Sometimes pissed off people shouldn't get behind the wheel of a 2000+ lb bullet :D

And Angry MPA is an overly aggressive driving MPA :)

If I wanted to deal with BS HS crap in a relationship I would still date HS girls :D

Maybe there's hope for us yet Phire...I'm only about a third into my lifetime (with a little luck!).

Onlypastrana...I fear a mind clearing ride would be classified under abandonment by the non-riding wife! I've been trying for five years to get her on a bike...she says they're too dangerous. And her medical examiner father's morgue stories don't help my case!

Quote from: Onlypastrana199He drove that car like 4 miles that day and it decided to burst into flames.

Sounds like a little somethin' folks around here call "carma"  :lol:

(For the grammar geeks, I meant to spell it wrong. It's supposed to be funny...maybe I ought to stick to wrenchin'!)

Quote from: RoadstergalBMW had a couple of funky-ass badgings in their otherwise very rational naming scheme.  The 528e and 325e had the same 2.7L engine; the 323i and Z3 2.3i had 2.5Ls.  Probably to differentiate them from the 328i and Z3 2.8i; easier to sell a 500cc difference than a 300cc.

I'm fairly certain that the 323 badge was simply to not piss off the previous year's 325 owners.  One year the 325 is the "big" engine...the next year it's the small one.  I think they gave the previous 325 owners a bit of a grace period to make sure it was perfectly clear that they bought the expensive one.  

'Course, now Bangle is moving further away from the "eine wurst, drei grosse" approach the naming scheme is likely to lean even more toward the marketing edge, lose it's logical relevance, and basically piss me off.  Is it just me, or do the new BMW's just look clumsy?

ive found in my years, there are 2 things you can tell another Both of which hurt. a Lie or the truth.   sometimes Nothing is the best.   yeah, ill agree, diff levels of maturity, but i belive its as much as a male/female thing and how they interprate things on the fly. its been said many times over, as a general rule guys look at things differntly then gals do. i do understand though pandy, and yes age also has to do with it.   Fatigue from many years fighting and sweating the small stuff thats in the bigger picture.  there are things that i let slide now that i would have fought about in a heartbeat when younger.  there are things now that i wouldnt have raised an eyebrow when younger but will stomp and thrash about now.  specialy stupidity.  

here is a prime one.  every vehicle we get, i make sure to check it out,and show here how and where to check oil, water,trany fluid, show she can check it every fillup. this is also to let me know that oil is down or water or what ever is down alot and should check out why.  sounds reasonable to me.  IF something is low or needs another opinion, ask me then, dont kill the car.  driving around with the oil light coming on during every turn is NOT doing that.  she has Blown headgaskets in 3 engines,siezed 1 and tossed a rod in another.  there is no reason for this, and its stupid.  but she will complain that i wont let her drive my truck/s.   i got hit with something and a cold shoulder for 3 days when i asked "Why, so she can blow up my truck too"?  

in the case of Octane that would have been a HUGE one.  no worse then painting up a room and getting it all furnished for your kid to find marker drawing on the walls or busted furniture from them jumping on it. she gets plenty mad over that. its things that take time, money and energy and everyone hates any of those things wasted.  let alone for reasons that were attempted to be avoided and safeguarded against.  would it have been a realationship stoper? nah, all that ive been through, there isnt but 2 things left to be done to me to make me walk away from it, and death is one. but dont ever tell me how i should feel or that im not allowed to feel this/thatway.  i would much rather get it out of my system and forgive later then to choke it back and have it rot.  often thesooner you let it out the sooner you can move on.

we had one of those Vehicle issues last week that still has thunder reverberating.

Yeah, I'm working hard on trying to not sweat the small stuff. Case in point, probably my biggest pet peeve EVER is wastefulness. I grew up without a lot and my mother beat it through my skull that when you leave a room you turn out the light, if you're cold you put on socks and a sweatshirt, and if there is food left over you put it in the fridge and eat it tomorrow.

My wife and stepson will leave the house for the day with the A/C blowing full bore and every (literally) light in the house on. My power bill more than doubled when they moved in. Now that we've been married a year that stuff has gotten better - both through me being able to show my wife the power bill last year to this year and show her the money we're wasting so she'll be more conservative, and through me trying not to blow a gasket when they forget and I come home to the power of the sun in my living room (my wife LOVES lamps, so in addition to the overhead lights, there are a bunch of lamps burning bright too). And this is one of those man/woman differences. When I asked her why she insisted on keeping the damn lamps on all day she says, "Because they're pretty!". Now call me a man, but how pretty are the lamps when there is noone home to enjoy them?! Just seems illogical to me.

Another good example, I came home from work yesterday and it's FREEZING in the house. Not because it's cold out or because the windows were open, but because the A/C is set to 64 degrees. To make it extra annoying, the central heat is kicking on to combat the A/C window units. These are the things that make me crazy. Unfortunately this one led to a spirited argument. We were probably both a little cranky to begin with and when I asked her why the A/C was blowing in November she blew up at me. Such is life I guess, but these things pass!

And blueknyt - I think our wives attended the same school of car care! I take it upon myself to do the necessary services to her Volvo because her last car suffered a painful death of neglect.

Quote from: Badger'Course, now Bangle is moving further away from the "eine wurst, drei grosse" approach the naming scheme is likely to lean even more toward the marketing edge, lose it's logical relevance, and basically piss me off.  Is it just me, or do the new BMW's just look clumsy?

It looks like they're keeping the same naming scheme.   :dunno:   It seems to be very polarized between current BMW owners, though - 50/50 hate the new designs/love the new designs.  I think they're sharp; love the Z4.

Don't forget that the E46 and Z8 were also Banglemobiles.  The interiors of the Z4 and the Z8 are eerily similar, aside from the gauge cluseter placement. I did a side-by-side shot for the Z4 review.

Forgive my bimmer ignorance...what's Banglemobile?!

Quote from: octaneForgive my bimmer ignorance...what's Banglemobile?!

The super-uglified current generation of BMW's, especially the Z4 and the 7 series.  The Z4 can get away with it, since the roadster didn't look like a typical BMW when it was a Z3.

:thumb:

The E36 didn't look like a typical BMW.  I can fall asleep looking at one. IMO, they only look good in race trim.

Quote from: RoadstergalIt looks like they're keeping the same naming scheme.   :dunno:   It seems to be very polarized between current BMW owners, though - 50/50 hate the new designs/love the new designs.  I think they're sharp; love the Z4.

Don't forget that the E46 and Z8 were also Banglemobiles.  The interiors of the Z4 and the Z8 are eerily similar, aside from the gauge cluseter placement. I did a side-by-side shot for the Z4 review.

I'm not sure how "Z4, X5" are the same naming scheme...but whatever (not that that is Bangle's doing).  The new 5 looks unwieldy.  I haven't gotten an up-close look at the new 3 yet.

I do like the Z4 much better than the Z3, even though if I was in the market for a roadster I'd probably still look elsewhere (I hated the Z3).  I think the wife is going to get an A4 convertible next year, so that will reduce the likelihood of getting a second rag roof.

When I got rid of my E36 for the E46, I really preferred the old design, but the E46 has grown on me.  I would have kept the E36 if not for the bigger engine.  These days the E36 looks dated.  That said, the engine in the new 3 isn't compelling enough to offset my loathing of the iDrive (I think it's fine for the 7's, marginal for the 5's, and inappropriate for the 3's).  And the 6...blech.  I do hear a lot of folks cooing over them, though....and admittedly I haven't driven one.

Sorry for the threadjack...but I've been a bit preoccupied as to whether I'm going to get an '06 3-coupe, get the last of the E46 M3's ('07?), or just keep my current car until something better comes along.  I suppose I could save a lot of money and get a K1200S instead.

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Quote from: octaneForgive my bimmer ignorance...what's Banglemobile?!

The super-uglified current generation of BMW's

So called because of the designer: Chris Bangle.

Quote from: RoadstergalThe E36 didn't look like a typical BMW.  I can fall asleep looking at one. IMO, they only look good in race trim.

Didn't you have a Miata?  Those used to look like a bar of soap someone left in the shower too long. :P

Quote from: phireIt's really the women that wear the pants because ultimately, the man will get horny at some point and cave in to any demand she wishes.

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This is false.  :roll:  Women enjoy - and need - sex just as much as men do. They can usually just control themselves better. Any woman who plays the "I withold sex" card for manipulation purposes isn't worth unwrapping a condom for. I've never had this happen, but if it did, she would do it once and once only.

You are only at her mercy if you allow yourself to be. Men need to be men and not little boys looking for a place to put their pee pee. A real relationship involves meaningful and mutual intimacy and satisfaction.   :thumb:

I liked the Z3s, but I like the Z4s better.  I've driven... a lot of BMWs.  My ex had a Z3 1.9 as his only car, and it's great - with a little modification, it has very good handling, it has easy maintenace, and plenty of power for 'round town while still having good mileage and cheap insurance.  Another ex had an S54 M roadster, and it was a beast on a leash; very easy to control, but lots of power and good handling.  It's a car to drive in state to the track, thrash at the track, and drive back home in state.

Skip the E46 M3 and get the Performance Package 330 (ZHP).  A friend of mine got it as a compromise car because his wife wanted four doors, but now he loves it.  I've ridden with him at the track (it's stock except for wheels and tires), and the thing is just awesome.

The Z4 outhandles the Z3 handily, stock for stock.  It's also much comfier than the Z3.  The 6 series is a blast and a half to drive.  Tons of torque.  Heavy, but it feels more planted than ponderous.

All BMWs understeer stock.  The Z4 does it the least of the ones I've driven (although a few minor suspension mods take care of that; I put Koni adjustables and E30 M3 springs on my 325e and had fun).

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Quote from: RoadstergalThe E36 didn't look like a typical BMW.  I can fall asleep looking at one. IMO, they only look good in race trim.

Didn't you have a Miata?  Those used to look like a bar of soap someone left in the shower too long. :P

Don't worry, my bestest friend in the world has two E36s.   :lol:

The Miata is a sports car in a cute package.  Double-wishbone suspension, light weight, everything adjustable stock except for rear caster.  I took mine down to under 2000lbs, and it was a great, reliable, efficient car with unbeatable handling (especially with some sticky tires - Falken Azenis RS - track on a budget; too bad they don't make them anymore).

Quote from: PhaedrusWomen enjoy - and need - sex just as much as men do. They can usually just control themselves better. Any woman who plays the "I withold sex" card for manipulation purposes isn't worth unwrapping a condom for.

:thumb:

Er, except for the control themselves better comment.  For me, sex is very linked to my emotional feeling about the guy in question.  When I'm in love, I can't get enough sex.  If I'm just friendly, I'm not so horny.  Guys tend more towards the physical it-feels-good-I'll-hit-it side.

Quote from: RoadstergalSkip the E46 M3 and get the Performance Package 330 (ZHP).  A friend of mine got it as a compromise car because his wife wanted four doors, but now he loves it.  I've ridden with him at the track (it's stock except for wheels and tires), and the thing is just awesome.

Yep.  I've driven a number of M3's, and they're a bit beastly for commuting (but hella fun in the twisties).  I'm not sure how worthwhile it would be to swtich my 330Ci for one with the perf package...I think I'd rather just swap the steering wheel for an M wheel (I keep meaning to...) and get a new set of wheels, I think I can forego the 10hp and 300rpm redline increase.  I still get just over 30mpg on the highway, and that's worth a little compromise to me.

Quote from: RoadstergalThe 6 series is a blast and a half to drive.  Tons of torque.  Heavy, but it feels more planted than ponderous.

Maybe I'll take a ride out there this weekend and try one out.  Still don't care for the way they look, though.

Quote from: RoadstergalAll BMWs understeer stock.

Noted.

OK, since this is well and hijacked, my BMW:

(http://tinypic.com/fkntwz.jpg)


My Mazda:

(http://tinypic.com/fkntoj.jpg)

Quote from: RoadstergalMy Mazda:

The teeth are -awesome-.

Still looks like a bar of soap, though.  :P

Quotemy biggest pet peeve EVER is wastefulness

well, paying for someone elses Wastefulness, carelessness,stupidity all has the same flavor.

QuoteEr, except for the control themselves better comment. For me, sex is very linked to my emotional feeling about the guy in question. When I'm in love, I can't get enough sex. If I'm just friendly, I'm not so horny. Guys tend more towards the physical it-feels-good-I'll-hit-it side.

i think your hornyness like most females diminishes when your angry or hurt by said person. No matter how much you love them.  granted im sure you get over it quick, or have awsome make up sex AFTER you get over being HURT/MAD.  but i really Doubt you get itchy while arguing as its SUPER RARE.   that being said, very few Guys can deny sex Not that many would think of such a thing.  if she wants it bad enough she will get it, while your asleep, (god help you if you wake up and stop it then your done.....DONT ASK)  but guys try to get it while they sleep and the are still angry at you, your dead in the water.   Deny it if you like most wemen get a kick of haveing that power, to deny and can make if valid for any reason and guys have nothing to say about it.

Ive known only one guy that said he would get it else where if denied.  it didnt end well.  

its a double standard as was stated, Speak as nobley as you like thats the way it is.   should guys really push for equal treatment as hard as the wemen claim to have wanted,  we are called heartless monsters, Dicks, Creeps, assholes, pricks and what ever else would fit the bill at the time.



DO NOT .... confuse this with deffending the ones you love from OUTSIDE threats.

seems like alot of Miata people head for the GS500 :D

I had 2 - started w/ a white 91 and after 8 months of it I bought a new '00 back in, well, 00 :D had the suspension pkg, HDHCDD, Racing Beat Sways, header, BSP lid for the bling and the FM Duals :D

Took it to Deal's Gap twice (was able to keep up w/ some of the 600s) and took it to Motorsports Ranch in Dallas for a track day. I look forward to hitting DG with whatever bike I end up with

(http://webpages.charter.net/teampunkass/m2a.jpg)
(http://webpages.charter.net/teampunkass/m2b.jpg)

I'd post a GS pic but Im waiting til after the winter to get one since I don't have enough room to ride it around my apartment :D

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Quote from: PhaedrusWomen enjoy - and need - sex just as much as men do. They can usually just control themselves better. Any woman who plays the "I withold sex" card for manipulation purposes isn't worth unwrapping a condom for.

:thumb:

Er, except for the control themselves better comment.  For me, sex is very linked to my emotional feeling about the guy in question.  When I'm in love, I can't get enough sex.  If I'm just friendly, I'm not so horny.  Guys tend more towards the physical it-feels-good-I'll-hit-it side.

how the f*ck did I miss this tangent???? :lol:

I auto-xed my speed a couple times.  It doesn't handle nearly as well as a well modded (suspension!) miata but it's not too bad.  Here's a pic of what it looks like...since we're on the topic of pretty mazda pictures!

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Quote from: phireIt's really the women that wear the pants because ultimately, the man will get horny at some point and cave in to any demand she wishes.

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This is false.  :roll:  Women enjoy - and need - sex just as much as men do. They can usually just control themselves better. Any woman who plays the "I withold sex" card for manipulation purposes isn't worth unwrapping a condom for. I've never had this happen, but if it did, she would do it once and once only.

You are only at her mercy if you allow yourself to be. Men need to be men and not little boys looking for a place to put their pee pee. A real relationship involves meaningful and mutual intimacy and satisfaction.   :thumb:

You're correct and I've never had it happen to me, either. However, I know PLENTY of relationships where this is true. And, I do realize that men need to be men and not boys looking for a place to stick their pee pee, but everyone needs it at some point in their lives!

Quote from: RoadstergalGuys tend more towards the physical it-feels-good-I'll-hit-it side.

It's a 50/50 combo for me. I get enjoyment out of both mental intimacy and the it-feels-good-I'll-hit-it side.  8)

My mother thought it would be fun to have a cute little two-seater convertible she could get around town in and have fun in. She bought a 1998 Miata in the special edition dark blue color. It was supposed to come with the dark blue paint, a different (high quality) shift knob, some dash emblem, and special floor mats. All that was left when she bought it was the knob and the paint, and the knob was wearing pretty bad. It's a fun little car, but they won't let me drive it on my own :( They have to be there with me :( My mother drives it like she is a little old lady. WTF is the point of having a fun little sports car if you drive it like a Lincoln Towncar?

I have gotten to drive it around, and it's a really fun package overall. My mother won't let me mess with the suspension settings though, nor could I drive it up to a "sporting" level in the most minute sense of the word. I hope she gets tired of it in a year and lets me buy it from her. I'd track that sucker.

she must have a '99 10AE -it's a cool  Blue and the seats are black w/ blue suede inlays. A few friends of mine have/had em.

And if you think Miatas are fun, boosted Miatas are even more fun, but it kinda takes away from the pureness of the car if it makes any sense.

Quote from: MPAshe must have a '99 10AE -it's a cool  Blue and the seats are black w/ blue suede inlays. A few friends of mine have/had em.

And if you think Miatas are fun, boosted Miatas are even more fun, but it kinda takes away from the pureness of the car if it makes any sense.

Nope. It's a '98. Tan leather interior with a black Mazda and Miata logo in them. I think it was the Touring package? No clue.

I understand the "purity" thing. While turbos might be a ton of fun, it ruins the essence of the machine. The engine is where its heart is, and tacking stuff on kinda ruins the allure of that little engine being so nice.

A '98 Miata is an '03 GS500.

And don't forget the 83 Corvette ;) Mazda sold the 2nd gens as '98s overseas, but here in the US they are considered '99s even though they started to sell them in early 98.

I never paid attention to what colors were offered so I'm not sure which blue she had - maybe it's navy blue metallic. Had my car come in purple I'd have taken it - I just wanted the suspension pkg. for the performance and color was an afterthought - I was just happy it wasn't red :D

Wife dropped my bike (hence the title of thread) not allow to be angry at her, good part of the discusion or concerning such,  to BMW's and Miata's.   someone not like the the subject of the thread?

It's called hijacking... it's a long and proud tradition.  Once you get past 2 pages, it's the exception for the thread to still be on topic.  :)

Quote from: RoadstergalIt's called hijacking... it's a long and proud tradition.  Once you get past 2 pages, it's the exception for the thread to still be on topic.  :)

:thumb: If your thread HASN'T been hijacked within two pages, then no one loves you. You ain't no one 'til your threads are hijacked!  :mrgreen:  :lol:

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Quote from: phireIt's really the women that wear the pants because ultimately, the man will get horny at some point and cave in to any demand she wishes.

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This is false.  :roll:  Women enjoy - and need - sex just as much as men do. They can usually just control themselves better. Any woman who plays the "I withold sex" card for manipulation purposes isn't worth unwrapping a condom for. I've never had this happen, but if it did, she would do it once and once only.

You are only at her mercy if you allow yourself to be. Men need to be men and not little boys looking for a place to put their pee pee. A real relationship involves meaningful and mutual intimacy and satisfaction.   :thumb:

You're correct and I've never had it happen to me, either. However, I know PLENTY of relationships where this is true. And, I do realize that men need to be men and not boys looking for a place to stick their pee pee, but everyone needs it at some point in their lives!

There are only a few automatic-relationship-enders in my book, and using sex as a weapon or bargaining piece is one of them.  The second the guy or girl does that - end it.  Cus it's over.

Even the horniest guy can keep it in his pants for a week - and if she's still holding a grudge after a week, and using sex to punish you? Move on.

My 2 cents.

Other problems as they arise and how to handle them according to the great Phaedrus  :P

You forget her birthday / some other important day / you really screw up - On wait, you DIDN'T forget because you were proactive. You have a nice gift for her hiding in your closet ahead of time for moments like this. Whip it out - the gift you frockin sicko - and surprise her with it and she will melt at your thoughtfulness.

Her sister is totally hot and is flirting with you - Uhhh. I'm still working on a solution to this one. Luckily, I am out of that situation but I've been there. Didn't really handle it too well.  :P

She checks out other guys when she is with you- I've had this happen ONCE and only once with a girl I was dating. We were out to dinner with her sister and her sister's BF. This muscular, jocky looking guy walks by and her and her sister both give him the elevator eyes. The sister's BF sat there like a doormat. I'm not so passive. I looked at her and was like "What the hell was that?".  :nono:  She said it was "just a reaction". So I had "a reaction" of my own; I stood up from the table and threatened to go tell the guy "Hey, my girlfriend didn't get a good enough look at your ass the first time you walked by, could you do it again?". She was very embarassed and promised she would never, ever do it again. We broke up a few months later on good terms, but in the rest of the time we were together she didn't do it again. Sometimes you have to draw a hard line and let her know she needs to respect you, just as you should be respectful and courteous of her. It works both ways, and I would never demand something of myself that I would not do myself.  :thumb: