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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: ashman on November 18, 2005, 07:43:50 PM
Hey,
Does anyone know if Kerrys valve adjustment video is being hosted online? I had heard some talk about it but dont know if it happened, this is assuming someone has done so w/ Kerrys permission.  :thumb:  My bike is running crappy and I think it is time for one. Anyone know some symptoms of a bike that is in need of such?

-ash
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: davipu on November 18, 2005, 10:12:02 PM
http://www.bbburma.net/Documents/ValveAdjustmentVideo/
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: rtcpenguin on November 18, 2005, 10:46:31 PM
No videos in that link?
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: calamari on November 19, 2005, 01:30:31 AM
i need to do the valves too, but I need guidance  :mrgreen:

some guy at work (gold wing rider for many years) said to me: "you better take the bike to the stealership. the valves is something you don't want to do, because it requires expertise, and blah blah blah..."

now I am confused.  :bs:
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: GeeP on November 19, 2005, 02:15:06 AM
Quote from: subc"you better take the bike to the stealership. the valves is something you don't want to do, because it requires expertise, and blah blah blah..."

Buy the Clymer manual, follow the instructions.  Report back if you have problems.   It REALLY IS that simple!  You'll see...  :thumb:
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: NightRyder on November 19, 2005, 10:19:43 AM
Nah, you don't need a manual. Just start taking things apart till you get to where you see the cams. Then use your head, and pull the shims out that need it. I used 2 thin flat head screwdrivers and needle nose pliers after taking off the holds on the cam shafts and rotating them so there was the greatest clearence. Use one screwdriver to push down on the valve, the other to pop the shim out, and pliers to grab it.  Easy as pie. Well, maybe baking/making a pie, and then haveing to eat the whole thing. (or not eat any of it.. hmm I digress)

Seriously, If you take it slow and carful, you should be fine. Unless you have a nack for messing things like this up. Oh, and beware the huge hole that the chain rotates in.. its like a big black hole. Don't loose anything down that. I almost did. I donno how much work that would have created, but it would have been a large pain, I think.


Oh, here this might help, unless you have already seen it..
http://gstwin.com/adjust_valves.htm

That helped me. You don't have to do everything in the guide. (like pulling the carbs/airbox) I have a theroy that might help someone (and me next time), I think if you took out the cam tensioner, then the chain would go slack, and you could just pick up the cams off the valve and pull out the shim. Does anyone know if this would work? If not, I'm going to try it next time, and I'll try to tell this place how it works out. (don't wait for me though, I just did my check/exchange 20 miles ago)
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: jardisan on November 19, 2005, 12:20:56 PM
Someone posted a torrent to download the video, I had it seeded for a little bit but there isn't too much demand for it. I have a copy that I can aim to you if you want it.If that dosen't work I can always post it on my site, but at 500MB its going to rip through my bandwidth. Let me know if you want it.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: calamari on November 19, 2005, 12:28:43 PM
I've PM you jardisan, and yes... im interested  :P

Quote from: ashmanMy bike is running crappy and I think it is time for one. (valve adjustment) Anyone know some symptoms of a bike that is in need of such?

-ash

yes, I would also like to know what are the symptoms of a bike that need valves adjustment? how is it running crappy?
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Blueknyt on November 19, 2005, 05:31:50 PM
i belive kerry went through alot of trouble to film a valve adjustment, edit it, and put it on CD along with a valve adjustment Kit and tools and THEN donated it to the whole GS comunity.   i belive he also said anyone wanting a copy could send him (think it was) 5$ or so to cover the cost of the CD,case, and shipping.  never once did i read anywhere about him allowing DL's of his movie.  i belive it would be best to ASK him before DLing or streaming a copy of his work.   i have one of his early works on CD and i can tell it was alot of work for him.   i would like to see proper respect shown for it and make sure we dont step on his toes.  Agreed?
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: jardisan on November 20, 2005, 01:40:15 AM
I think he would be ok with it based on this thread...
http://www.gstwins.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=148810#148810
Rema1000 is also hosting a torrent, or at least was. I got that info from Kerry himself. I'm sure if the video is not altered and credit is given its all good...
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on November 20, 2005, 05:07:50 AM
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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Blueknyt on November 20, 2005, 10:15:37 PM
Why not instead of assuming its ok just because he DIDNT Give an answer in that thread, to PM, or even Email him if its ok to share it or copy it for others, then there is no Guess work involved.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: TarzanBoy on November 20, 2005, 11:49:41 PM
No offense... but the video was clearly made by kerry for the benefit of the readers here on this board.

From the posts I've read regarding it, he only ever charged shipping plus the costs of the tape/cd/whatever.

I made a post asking about the video and valve/shim kit a few weeks ago and got a bunch of replies... none of which where helpful in finding a copy (on or offline) of the video.   What good does the video do any new users to the board if the older users keep hoarding it to themselves?

There are ways to distribute the video without hosing your bandwith... and there are ways to shrink the 500mb size down.   A 30 minute long, 400 x 300 video will only take up ~50MB of space if encoded with DivX or Xvid.  That is small enough to be sent in five 10MB-sized-chunks from a free gmail/yahoo account.

I've offered to put the video on DVD... but I can't even do that until someone makes it available.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: calamari on November 21, 2005, 12:01:58 AM
yep, we should aske Kerry about this.

i got a copy now (WMV), but it's corrupted 27 minutes into the video  :x  but it comes back on minute 46, so there's a big chunk missing that I haven't seen  :lol:

I'll try to fix it now and pm kerry about sharing the vid with those who might need it.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on November 21, 2005, 04:00:23 AM
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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: domas on November 21, 2005, 06:19:56 AM
I would like to have this video very much, but i live in europe so the internet transfer would be the only way.

If gstwin would manage to put the video somewere this site would kickass totaly :)).

Also another question: where do you buy the shims to valves? At local dealership or some hardware shop. And how much do they cost?
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Blueknyt on November 22, 2005, 12:50:59 AM
QuoteWhat good does the video do any new users to the board if the older users keep hoarding it to themselves?

ok when i first read this it really pissed me off and i started 3 differant lines inwhich to tell you how to....  never mind as i thought better of it and there might be a misunderstanding to how i processed it.


No, those of us who DO have a copy are NOT hording it because we can,  ive done valve adjustments on bikes long before i had a GS, as well as cars, trucks,boats and 1 lycoming (aircraft)

Kerry selected a few of us to check out his work and "Critic" it as it were to help gauge how he did, fine points, questions etc.   I have NO problem sharing,  BUT untill i get in writeing, via Thread Post,Email,PM or Skywriting im NOT going to reproduce or redistribute his hard work.  I would think and still do that The members on this site have that same respect for Kerry.  

You want a text step by step, the book has it. You dont have a Book? then you really should get one.   This is not the same as RTFM.   if even just for SPECS its good to have.    there have been a few threads in which the basic process of valve adjustments have been discribed or explained when someone didnt understand something.  


QuoteI've offered to put the video on DVD... but I can't even do that until someone makes it available.

Only ONE person can give that permission and it isnt anyone holding a copy of it.  By all means, offer your help to him, he may take you up on the offer.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on November 22, 2005, 03:59:16 AM
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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Blueknyt on November 22, 2005, 05:54:57 AM
Nah, no where near nasty, thats why i changed my tune and tried to clearup any missunderstanding.  IF Kerry ok's it and his kit with the Video is out of reach, I and the others whom have a copy (im pretty sure) will be willing to make a copy and send em out (Like kerry for cost of matirials/shipping, no profit)
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: jsamaniego on November 23, 2005, 09:33:14 AM
Quote from: BlueknytIF Kerry ok's it and his kit with the Video is out of reach...

OK, Iam in the same boat as Wantabe... It'll be nice to have the video, although I can do without if it is not available...
But, Does anyone know where Kerry is?  Anything wrong with him?

Maybe someone could get rid of all those IFs... :dunno:
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Blueknyt on November 23, 2005, 07:17:42 PM
I just re screened it as it seems to have fallen behind my desk and i dont know how long it was back there, but it did susstain a few scratches.  i found no Glitches in its running.  i went ahead and cut and paste a copy onto my HD  as a backup.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: TR on November 23, 2005, 10:04:03 PM
Hey guys, I gladly will shre some useful hints:

- No need to take off carbs nor chain tensioner.
- Gas tank off, and side covers and seat,
- Close gas tank valve from right side with long narrow flat screwdriver.
- Remove gas hoses with pliers and pull away the tank, empty tank helps.
- Remove valve cover with 5 or 6 mm allen key
- The special tool presses down valve bucket by the edge, allowing the shim to be taken off, works like a cam on the bucket. Otherwise a large screwdriver may help.
- Spin shim and try with nose pliers to take it off. Watch out to throw down the shim by the chain hole to the crankshaft. Cover it.
- If not enough room for extraction just loose a little bit cam bearings screws, the trick here is to thigt them back to 5 Kg-m??? not completely sure but will check,
- Toughest part is to retight the allen bolts with the large torquimeter head under the frame, it barely fits. A flexible extension and allen bits help.
- I guess thats all, a good feeler gauge is very convinient, and caliper or micrometer for precise measurements.

More help?? A six pack, patience and caution.
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on November 27, 2005, 09:28:13 AM
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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: pandy on November 27, 2005, 02:00:32 PM
Check out Phae's GS FAQ site....my modest contribution was to compile into one place the research folks had done for making up one's own valve-adjustment kit (cuz I was putting enough miles on my GS to make it necessary to do a valve adjustment every 6 to 8 weeks). Tells ya' what parts to get and some places to get the parts!

I don't have the addie of the FAQ, but I'm sure someone will post it for ya'!  :mrgreen:
Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: Wrecent_Wryder on November 27, 2005, 03:32:51 PM
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Title: valve adjustment video
Post by: TR on November 27, 2005, 07:17:35 PM
Davipu made some copies of that tool for a few bucks, really worthy. Don't remember who sells the original tool, but I probably saw it at www.motorcycle-superstore.com, I guess a valve compresor only clears the valve steam and locks while pusing down the bucket once the shim's off, the tool wraps around the camshaft, besides the cam and pushes the bucket by the edge like a cam.